How To Say It...

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ownthree, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    This may very well be so off topic, but i'm holding on to the benefit that this is online and you can't see me - i can't see you. so here goes...

    my girlfriend may be cheating on me and just using me to buy her stuff, that's what my mom said. i personally think she is wrong but i do spend a lot on her with her bags and those jimmy shoes. for me, if she's happy, i'm happy and i really am. i don't know. my mom has always had my best interests and she would never ruin a good relationship for me. how can i really know? how do i get to the bottom of this?
     
  2. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Place a keylogger on her smart device (phone, tablet etc) which will tell you all.... remotely.

    It may cost you $$$, but can you put a price on love? :p
    And it beats being caught checking her phone out on premises!

    https://ikeymonitor.com/features
     
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  3. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I'm female so I'll tackle the part about using you to buy her things. Stop buying her things for at least a month. Give her an excuse that you have some unforseen bills and are cash strapped so you can't get her what she wants. Also explain that you can't go to expensive eating places. See if she is understanding or gets mad.
    If she is understanding and wants to help, then she genuinely cares for you. It's the time you spend with someone you care for, not the things they buy for you that really counts.

    The above message was posted while I typed. Sorry, but if some guy put a keylogger on anything I owned, I'd dump him. To me that is like stalking and gives me the creeps! (Thank goodness I grew up in an age before anyone can keep tabs on you 24 x 7).
     
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  4. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Im guessing you wont accept my dinner invite then plodr? :)

    Good advice there though!
     
  5. hitest

    hitest Staff Sergeant

    I like plodr's advice. Other than the fact that your girlfriend likes expensive things do you have any other evidence that she's cheating on you? Best of luck in sorting this out.
     
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  6. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Remember...

    A Mom may not always be right. But she's never wrong... :)
     
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  7. Anon-9aee479f8f

    Anon-9aee479f8f Anonymized

    My opinion is if there is lack of trust in any relationship that relationship is in trouble.
    I agree with the advice given to limit your buying of things and see if it changes the relationship. If it does then you will have your answer.
     
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  8. legalsuit

    legalsuit Legal Eagle

    I'm going to be very blunt and brutal:

    Personally, my thoughts, based on what you've said, it appears she is probably a shallow, selfish, money grabbing user, fulfilling her own needs and regards herself as a special prize. Make her happy and she is yours. I doubt it's about her being unfaithful - why risk losing a good thing?

    How would you score yourself here:

    1. Are you both in a committed relationship - i.e. you are recognised as her boyfriend? Yes / No

    2. Or are you really just acquaintances? (in which case you have no "claim" on her) Yes / No

    If you really have a committed relationship - both recognising you are boyfriend/girlfriend, then:

    3. Does she surprise you with gifts at any time? Even on occasion for no reason? Yes / No

    4. Is she happy just to be with you and seeks your company - without expecting any gifts? Yes / No
    5. Does she make you feel special only if/when you give her gifts? Yes / No

    6. Is she only around you if she knows she is going to be given a gift? Yes / No

    If your responses show your relationship as being one sided, that is, all about making her happy, then it's a WIN/WIN - she gets what she wants and you get her.

    In my view, if that's the case, I reckon you deserve better. Much better. Someone who is there just for you, not what they can benefit from you.

    But then, it's your life, your choice. Good Luck.

    Cheers

    LS
     
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  9. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Personally I'd go with Plodr, Katkat and Legalsuit's advice as once the doubt has started a relationship can crumble quickly, especially if you are spending large amounts monthly to keep "love" love, that's not love or a relationship, relationships are not based on material things.
     
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  10. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal


    those without answers i believe are a NO for me
    thank you for this
     
  11. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    ok, i think i'll try this one. thanks a lot.
     
  12. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    i hope im not too shallow for asking
     
  13. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Not at all.
    If you don't ask, you'll never know.
     
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  14. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Agreed, as a man I find in relationships if someones wanting material things then something is up, you should only give when you want too and TBH its a two way street. Just be wary and your mom has your best interests at heart. The crux is how you feel if you find that buying things for GF is good for you and keeps you happy then great, this maybe the lasting relationship so thats a good thing, just be careful.

    TBH I have more female friends that male and I always get opinions from my female friends, they just spot the "basic bitch" thing down to a T

    wholey crap [sic] what happened to the tech stuff! just think of her as a PC, do you throw more $$ at a.... (this bit I jest just needed to add some tech)
     
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  15. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Only if I can bring my husband. :p :D

    A good thought that others mentioned that I didn't think of: if you are the only one buying and she NEVER surprises you with little gifts, then you are being used. If you are in love/committed to someone, you think about the person a lot and as an end result, think about things that person would enjoy. Small, unexpected gifts are part of a good relationship.
     
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  16. legalsuit

    legalsuit Legal Eagle

    There you go...and that's a guy's input for you.

    You sound like a very caring, generous, gentle soul. Don't let your life and your time be sucked out of you by anyone unworthy.

    You've also had the girls' views, mine purposely blunt and brutal because I know those who care for you wouldn't want to say anything that may hurt you while you are feeling vulnerable. Take care and all the best.

    Cheers

    LS
     
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  17. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    And she stayed... Didn't go to restaurants, hanged out at my place/her place. Didn't buy her anything. She was hinting this new origami wallets from vuitton and I said that they're nice. that's it. i took control.
     
  18. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    i feel stupid
     
  19. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    No you're not stupid. And at least now you know if something happens, say your bankcard gets cracked and the machine won't take it, or you left your wallet at the office and can't get to it till Monday morning... it's not going to be the end of the world.
    I always said a true friend is a friend who doesn't care if I have a dollar or not.
     
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  20. legalsuit

    legalsuit Legal Eagle

    Bravo! Don't fold. This is still short term, so it is early days with you "testing the waters". You need to continue in this manner because the relationship should be based on her loving you, not loving what she can get out of you. If she is really desperate for an origami wallet from Vuitton let her pay for one with her own money! (Have you priced them? Very expensive.)

    Don't. All the above Posts urge you to take care and not allow yourself to be taken advantage of. It takes strength to do what you did...so Bravo! Keep it up.

    Cheers

    LS
     
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  21. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    I have been taken advantage of in the past.

    But trust is trust.

    This can be my advice as well.

    If at first site the trust is gone.Don't go back to the self righteous,Money grubbing twats.Some people keep getting scammed and it's there fault for taking a fool.Don't be one of them Fool's.

    It's all about trust.Not spending money on the one person you love and than the other bounces out a year later.

    All ways think be for you buy some thing.

    Think to your self.

    every time

    Do i really need this item?? Most likely not

    Do i want??

    Most people chose over want instead of need's.

    Do i want this item or need this item.

    It's all about how to choose in life.

    Would i rather keep my house and car or end up in a ally some where.

    Just need to think a little about this type of stuff.
     
  22. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    FYI most young kids these days just spend spend and spend with out thinking.

    And most of them will not be able to retire when they are flat broke.
     
  23. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    1. I am slightly weirded out by the ads about "how to tell if your partner is cheating" ads displaying at the bottom of my screen.

    2. @ownthree, have you considered talking to your girlfriend about this? It is great that you took control and change your behavior towards her, that is very difficult to do. But at some point, if you two never talk to each other about what worries you, you're not going to have a chance. I don't know how old you are and where you want this relationship to go (though I feel safe in assuming you haven't been together 15+ years), but if you want to have a realistic change with this girl, talking honestly and respectfully with each other is critical.

    Seriously, give it a chance.
     
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  24. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    On this pc I have ghostery and adblock plus in ie and ublock orgin in opera and I get none of those ads. On my company setup IPhone I get the whole long list @ the bottom of the page!
     
  25. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    When I remember, I turn off my ad blocker on MGs. There's revenue in those things. ;)
     
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  26. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    Yeah, they get my revenue input from the iPhone usage. And I really have to watch that account as its monitored for 2 gig use each month. Mg and news and tech manuals about uses it up. So at least Mg gets the most from one of my devices.
     
  27. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Oh hell no never feel stupid, with asking advice as I do all the time from friends of mine, as I say I have a few close friends who are women and one in particular she really looks after me with relationships and will call it as she sees it as "girlie-radar" is to warn you is worth weight in gold.

    Just as many have said take care and dont jump into buying big high value items Louis Vuitton stuff, hell you going to buy that I'm going to date you! Buying items like this is not wrong and shows a love for someone, but its a love that is earned not bought with material things, if you want to give then great, but should not be asked for (geez I have turned into Dr Phil?, not my area, I want to stick to eyes thanks) Know what best relationships are when as you have done stay, eat at each others place, go to a great bar/restaurant, watch a film, its all about getting to know a persons interests, that makes them tick, so find out about sports, films, books, art, gives you clues as to places to go etc

    As LS said just dont fold due to as we all want a need to be loved or relationship.
     
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  28. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    I know, I tried the Asian Singles site but my Russian wife says its a no no!:D
     
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  29. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    We're still together!
     
  30. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    Would you believe that she showed me an article about couples therapy retreats and wanted to try it out? I'm seriously considering this though.
     
  31. ownthree

    ownthree Corporal

    Im just so happy.
     
  32. legalsuit

    legalsuit Legal Eagle

    I don't know how long you've been into this relationship. Personally, I've always viewed the first 6 months as "The Honeymoon Period" - kinda getting to know each other and everything is beautiful. Time is always a decider as one moves forward in a relationship and really starts to see their partner for whatever they really are and what they are ready to accept in a partner.

    Couples Therapy certainly would be an eye opener and an interesting discovery experience with your relationship.

    Cheers

    LS
     
  33. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Yeh I agree with legal......not sure if anyone can help you to build a long and lasting relationship as a third party if the both of you aren't already committed to making it happen. If you are, it should be something you both can sort out within yourselves after the honeymoon period has elapsed.
    How much do they want for joining?

    I wish you both the best, but sometimes rehab can be an expensive failure!
    Ask Charlie Sheen ;)

    Best of luck!
     
  34. aidan80

    aidan80 Private First Class

    Some say it's not about the money but.. it's always about the money. What does your gut tell you. If you don't know a key logger will answer that question fairly quickly and regardless of the outcome be aware invading her privacy will undeniably kill the relationship regardless. I was married my gut said she was cheating key logger confirmed and two weeks later I moved into another place.
     
  35. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    I would not install a key logger.....it would be a huge betrayal of trust!
     
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  36. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    I agree with tim Putting a ket logger or spy stuff on another persons phone is betrayal.People need to stop thinking this way.

    It's hard to learn how to think in different ways some times.Like for instants is it you are is it them that caused the betrayal.
     

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