What Security Software Are You Using

Discussion in 'Software' started by AtlBo, Nov 26, 2017.

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What Security Software(s) are You Using?

  1. Avast (Free or Paid)

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Avira (Free or Paid)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. AVG (Free or Paid)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Bitdefender (Free or Paid)

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  5. Comodo (Any version)

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  6. ESET

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  7. Emsisoft

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Kaspersky

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Panda

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Windows Defender/Other

    9 vote(s)
    64.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Security programs are getting much better. Alot of talk about Windows default security, but the security software developers are providing better and more customizable options for users who want comprehensive protection. What program(s) are you using?
     
  2. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    None of the above.
     
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  3. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

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  4. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I see someone voted ESET. I like ESET but I am using Comodo, and I have backed that up with Qihoo 360 TS. Guess I don't trust Comodo reliability, or I would run it by itself (it crashes sometimes). Also, while Comodo alerts are generally understandable to an OK degree, the Qihoo ones explain issues better.

    There are many good apps available that aren't well known like NoVirusThanks EXE Radar Pro, AppCheck Anti-Ransomware, Binisoft Firewall Control, ReHIPS, Voodoo Shield etc. They are all free, but only necessary for someone who needs to buffer security in an area of the their setup.
     
  5. sexyandy81

    sexyandy81 MajorGeek

    I used to have Avast paid untill it has now expired and switched to Secureaplus again. Really like secureaplus 12 av engines and also integrated virustotal aswell. As well as whitelisting programs
     
  6. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Windows defender has come a long way in Win10.
    Real time, and runs well with Malwarbytes as a second opinion if you so desire!
    MS have really picked up the ball here and as a consequence now, when you buy a new system with Win10 pre-installed, you dont get all the trial bloatware you used to be encouraged to activate such as McAfee etc.
    Thats a good thing in my book!
     
  7. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Not true. Branded systems still come with multiple bloatware programs including limited trial security and office programs.
    That hasn't changed one bit.
     
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  8. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Avast.
    For some unknown reason my free version of Avast includes Avast Firewall.
     
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  9. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

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  10. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    I used to think so too, but not for mine...... I just purchased a brand new Lenovo desktop from Harvey Norman retail chain last week with Win10 Home pre-installed......took her home, banged her up and guess what, yep! no limited trial security programs (MS have now cut ties with all third party security devs), no office trials, narda!
    I was shocked, as clean as a whistle!
    Apparently signature machines are the way to go now but don't take my word for it Max, you never do anyway.
    See for yourself
    https://www.howtogeek.com/216751/bl...he-need-to-ever-reinstall-windows-on-new-pcs/

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/2890512/bloatware-free-windows-computers.html
    ;)
     
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  11. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Dell & HP which together have 40% of the market both include multiple programs including limited trials of many programs. You can see them in the configuration of their systems on their websites.
     
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  12. Nick T

    Nick T MajorGeek

    Bitdefender Free, Zemana AntiMalware Free, VoodooShield Free
     
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  13. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    I don't use none of them so called anti virus software.

    Most of them that are listed are bloatware not software lol:D
     
  14. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I doubt anyone with experience of using them would agree with you.
    Some AV programs have themselves become bloated with additional options but most of the bloat (in the very few that have that) can be removed/turned off/not installed at the beginning. Bad advice to users is not a good idea.
     
  15. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    MS is sick to death of bloatware, but unfortunately there are still some OEM's who are not towing the line, Yes.
    In light of this, any new system purchased running Win10 can easily remove OEM installed bloatware by utilizing the MS built in tool, allowing you to refresh the install with the click of the mouse!
    That includes Dell & HP.....See here!
    And just my 2cents....... Wile e Coyote is entitled to voice his opinions as he is a forum member just as you are. Your not a Mod, so pinging others for what you determine to be 'bad' advice is not your domain. There is a report button you can utilize if you don't like what you read :eek:
    Kind Regards :)
     
  16. EJB

    EJB Corporal

    Have used F-Secure on three PCs for years without problem.
    A telephone call every two years (Two year subs) keeps the price to a very acceptable level.
    Recently installed Malwarebytes free and AdwCleaner free for interest!
     
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  17. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Even though the issue of Bloatware is nothing to do with this thread, it does exist on every single branded system by all the big sellers.
    Microsoft PAYS system builders to include trial versions of software like MS Office. Other software developers do exactly the same thing. It is one of the financial issues determining the sale price of systems. MS benefits from it as do all the other developers. They only need one user in 50 to continue the limited trial by paying for it for it to be profitable above the original cost. It is standard marketing that all businesses do. MS is no different.
    Removing bloatware, and software not wanted by the user is more simple than people think, but since 80% of Windows system buyers don't have that information they have to ask, if they choose.
    There is no built in tool in Windows 10 to remove any specific type of software, other than the standard uninstall tools.
    MS itself stuffs Windows 10 with bloatware - most inbuilt Windows apps (that are easily removed cleanly by good uninstallers such as IoBit) are 'bloatware' when they are not needed, so the inaccurate notion that MS is 'sick to death' of bloatware is hilarious.
     
  18. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    The 'tool' you mention is actually no more than a clean 'reset' of windows. It would involve removing software a user may still want.
    That's not a bloatware removal tool as it gives no choice.
     
  19. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Avast is a very cool program. I wish I knew by heart the dynamics of for example Hardened Mode or CyberCapture, but I basically have it all on high on another PC. I think the cloud is used substantially by Avast at higher settings.

    BTW, how do you like the firewall? I have read kind of disappointing responses about lack of controls but not enough to believe that it's horrible or anything. I like having the "Ask" option like with Comodo Firewall, so I can monitor when things are connecting via the alerts. Really interested to get your angle on what's there settings wise in their firewall...
     
  20. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Removing what software a user may want??? Its a new computer, all you need is a fresh start in Win10 without the OEM bloated crap. Then you go from there, you know that!
     
  21. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I maintain 42 systems of which 37 are Win 10. The bulk of those systems were previously Win 7 and 8.
    On that basis I know exactly what bloatware is and isn't and how to remove it. Just as the security software on those systems, none of which rely on WD, and none of which have 'bloated' AV programs.
    Good luck with your approach which is not mine.
     
  22. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I don't like it. :mad:
    Everytime I tether my phone to PC I get the same notification no matter what settings I change.
    Avast Firewall.jpg
     
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  23. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Is public for a laptop? Maybe the Public Network security is tighter than the Private with Avast, meaning maybe that is the reason for the notification. Or maybe that is one of the settings you already tried changing :). Don't have a laptop so not sure about networking one, although I do know that one can be set to work only on a local network (internet)...
     
  24. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    I just don't like the constant nagging as well that these software comes with.

    But there are a couple of AV software that are just bloated with stuff that will mess up your system.

    Like AVG for example is one topic i will not get into.Years ago there software was great no issues.But now since AVG and AVAST where bought out buy one or another.They did a merging on the programs.So basically they are the same now.
     
  25. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

  26. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It's a desktop.
    Whether I select Public or Private the notification is there everytime I tether my phone. It wants to scan the network. But it doesn't do this when I connect a USB modem. :confused:
     
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  27. Nick T

    Nick T MajorGeek

    I have Avast Free on my daughters laptop, I did a custom install and left out the features I didn't need. Buy my computer runs Bitdefender Free and there's absolutely no bloatware at all with it.
     
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  28. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    None of the above.
     
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  29. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Are we on the same wlan0 here???
    Im only referring to new Win10 systems off the shelf.....not upgrades from older OS's in systems already networked in service! :rolleyes:
    Seriously....you maintain 37 win10 systems but you have little clue to what i have been trying to tell you in this thread all along??
     
  30. webyourbusiness

    webyourbusiness Private E-2

    this is only true when you buy a 'signature edition' from Microsoft stores direct as far as I know. Other mfgs have programs where larger companies can order custom builds, but home/small businesses are generally going to get the standard build, even with Win 10 Pro. I just ordered two Dells with Win 10 Pro -both came with McAfee trials and Office 365 trials, which were immediately removed as part of our customization process for internal machines. We use a different security product in-house and we use (and sell to our SMB clients) Office 365 internally.
     
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  31. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    I would recommend on not using office 365 or any 360 programs.They are very difficult to remove.They all so act like a virus them selfs.

    I tested this software out last month and it took a fresh windows install to remove it.
     
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  32. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I have no idea what
    even are.
    Office 365 is a unique program and is very easy to uninstall.
    And no software program needs a windows reinstall to remove it unless the system in question is messed up very badly.
     
  33. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    I tried to uninstall it,And i even tried to uninstall it in safe mode.Even with the software third parts tools i have.It has far to many install processes.Trying to eliminate them one by one would have taken me a week to remove it completely.Not only was it in the C: drive in the 86 and 32 folders but it was in appdata and temp and other areas that would have at least taken me a week to remove the installer processes.

    I was just warning others of the difficulty i had removing it.

    But to me it did act like a virus because of it being stubborn to remove it self.And the sad thing is i got the download from the majorgeeks link.

    I just don't trust it now because of the difficulty of removing it from my system.
     
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  34. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    1. There is Office 365 - there are no software programs I can find that say '360'
    2. It uninstalls itself fairly fully and easily with the standard uninstall, and even more thoroughly with the Power-scan in IoBit or Advanced scan in Revo. Having done this anyone with even a moderate experience of maintaining a Windows system would then restart the system and run a disk and registry cleaner having created a system restore point immediately prior to the initial uninstall. Those disk & registry scans will remove anything that might affect system performance
    3. You need to avoid making simple mistakes - 86 and 32 folders don't exist - there is an x86 program folder which is for x86 (32 bit programs) - there is no such thing as a '32 folder' because it is the x86 folder. On a system that runs a 64 bit OS there will also be a simple 'programs' folder for all 64 bit programs.
    Either the system you installed Office 365 on and uninstalled it has serious system problems (is it the system you have posted about when you were running SFC and other troubleshooting?) or you simply don't have enough day to day knowledge and experience of cleanly uninstalling programs.
     
  35. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    Max there is a 32 bit and a 64 bit folder.The First Program files is the 32 bit folder.The Second folder is for the 64 bit part of the 32 bit part.
     
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