Foreign Governments In Us Elections

If we are going to talk politics:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-calls-on-u-s-to-stop-separating-migrant-families/

 

When a parent is sent to jail, if an only parent, the child goes into foster care.....not locked in a detention center with blacked out windows. Even a US senator was refused admission to check on their health and welfare.

 

Um....just so we understand each other, who is the criminal?

 

Thanks, DOA, but I was asking WHO is the criminal that you were referring to, not a definition.

 

To change the laws, we need to do what we want...to change the laws.

I'm confused. How do we change the laws without taking action by focusing on doing what we want?

 

But..but...don't you know, Just Playin, that Rosa Parks was not protesting equal rights, she was protesting against the bus company. ROFLMAO.

 

Yes, she did!!
"Sparked by the arrest of Rosa Parks on 1 December 1955, theMontgomery bus boycott was a 13-month mass protest that ended with the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that segregation on public buses is unconstitutional."
Just like you had to stop mega homes being built in our neighborhood.

Which never would have happened if she didn't act and didn't get arrested.

 

Strawman?? Really. Pay attention, the bus boycott would not have happened if she had not taken action and been arrested.

So you admit that had you and others not taken action, you would not have had those result?

Have any other unasinous opinions?

 

While outside interference with elctions likely go on I just get the feeling its in MSM now and hightened as an excuse to those who lost, getting same in UK, next alients from melmac had bearing on brexit!

On speedhumps I think great if not humps but tables as if you drive a small economical car they are a nightmare to drive over and I want them gone from UK, had two alloys repaired (current car has Pirelli P-Zero Nero tires so bugger all clearnece to alloy, so potholes and poor speedhumps damage them easily), suspension checked 4 times, to a point Im thinking of a SUV just for commuting to work, far rather the small car but these humps are making it a nightmare. Report damaged ones monthly, as never know if a rough edge is cutting into inner side of tire, so dangerous if tire delaminates, we never really look at tire quality on the inside.

 

We fought a civil war over a legal action. Millions died fighting a legal law. Rosa Parks action may have been illegal at the time, but without that action in defiance, the bus boycott wouldn't have happened and the law wouldn't have changed. Or are you advocating for us to do nothing when faced with bigotry? Should be just accept racism, sexism? We seem to be condoning the kidnapping of children at our borders. Should we stay silent?
Hitlers actions were legal...in Germany. Does being legal mean it is moral or ethical?

In case you need clarification.....which I shouldn't have to do....I am against injustice, bigotry, racism, violations of human rights..etc whether it is legal or illegal.

Just where do you stand?

All that is needed for evil to persist is for good men to do nothing.

 

Did I say that? Or was it a quote from Edmund Burke?

 

Yup, celebrated a few days ago.

 

I gave a response to your Strawman link....it wasn't a question, DOA. It was a definition. It really had nothing to do with the facts of the conversation.

Was that not sufficiently clear for you?
Every argument has been that action needs to be taken in response to injustice whether or not legal or illegal. Did we not say it in a manner that you would understand?

 

Vietnam war. The separation of children from parents. Tent camps for toddlers. So far, the illegal action has for the most part been sit ins. Taking a knee as action against illegally killing children who are unarmed. Surely you can point out a few.
Confiscated Guns Must Be Sold, Not Destroyed, Rules Arizona Supreme Court...Do you think this deserves action? Returning guns to the general public?
Roe vs. Wade. Law of the land, but it does not stop people shooting at clinics and doctors, trespassing on clinic grounds. States trying to bypass the law. Cloaked in legality, shot down by laws.
How about laws banning gay marriage in some states> is that worthy of action? Or is that covered by the Declaration of Rights?

When ...injustice, bigotry, racism, violations of human rights..etc occur whether it is legal or illegal."[/QUOTE]
In this country, we usually try to pursue the legal avenue first. If that fails, then it will often resort to civil unrest! However, it did resort to a civil war.
The Boston Tea party was an act of civil disobedience. On March 12, 1930, Indian independence leader Mohandas Gandhi begins a defiant march to the sea in protest of the British monopoly on salt, his boldest act of civil disobedience yet against British rule in India.

It didn't take illegal activity...just a solid no vote!:
Roy Moore was once again caught making remarks that can be interpreted as okay with slavery.

So, sometimes it only takes legal means, while other times it requires the people to rise up.

Declaration of Independence:
Articles 2 and 3 note the revolutionary concept that "all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people..."[11] and that "whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal."

That does not refer to legal or illegal means of redress.

 

Vietnam war. The separation of children from parents. Tent camps for toddlers, illegally killing children who are unarmed.
In this country, we usually try to pursue the legal avenue first. If that fails, then it will often resort to civil unrest! What is not clear about that?
"sometimes it only takes legal means, while other times it requires the people to rise up." Does this also confuse you?

If you don't want history, explain when history has stopped and what is presently happening that might be considered a travesty that needs action...... like a 17 yr old black kid unarmed being shot in the back three times by cops. Or maybe thousands of immigrant kids being taken from their parents?

 

"I, TimW will never support the Vietnam war. The separation of children from parents. Tent camps for toddlers, illegally killing children who are unarmed."
"I, TimW will support" Taking a knee as action against illegally killing children who are unarmed.

Trumps Tariffs pinpoint certain goods/industries in foreign countries. "I. TimW will support our allies targeting any Trump owned business with tariffs."
China targeted American soy beans. It is devastating Iowa. Who started it? Hint: Not China.
I am not spending the rest of my evening answering your questions when you have not stated ONE hint at what you support other than speed bumps in your community."

Then WTF are you babbling about?

 

Ever heard of the WTO?? It is where countries are suing America over unfair trade practices since Trump has imposed tariffs!! It's the worlds court!!

 

Trump is planning on removing the US from the WTO. Now why would he do that?

Three times in the back;
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...eeing-traffic-stop-east-pittsburgh/719334002/

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/3/21/17149092/stephon-clark-police-shooting-sacramento

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...teens-month-1-sees-coverage-article-1.3210259

 

But only needed for minorities, right? After all, they are the majority of unarmed people who are being shot. But that whole "take a knee" thing and BLM are just a hoax, right. Teach them niggars to stop resisting. Teach them to not scratch their ass. And by God, they better not be sitting on a curb!!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nia-danene-sorace-sean-williams-a8422321.html

 

"The officer involved in the shooting has not been named by authorities, but had been hired in mid-May and sworn in just hours before the shooting.."
The driver of the vehicle, a 20-year-old man, was taken into custody and released after McDonough said officers did not feel they had cause to charge him in the earlier shooting.

Stephon Clark, the unarmed black man shot by Sacramento police officers while holding a cellphone in his grandparent’s backyard last week, was shot eight times, six of which hit him in the back, according to independent autopsy results released on Friday.

When 15-year-old Jordan Edwards was recently shot and killed by a police officer in suburban Dallas, the initial narrative was that the car he was a passenger attempted to mow down the officer who repeatedly fired his rifle into the vehicle. Upon reviewing the body camera footage of the incident, the Balch Springs Police Chief then openly stated that the initial narrative was a complete fabrication and proceeded to fire the officer who was later charged with murder.

Imandy, do you really need more examples? Do you think that the whole uproar over take a knee is a big hoax?

I did!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nia-danene-sorace-sean-williams-a8422321.html

 

Running away is not menacing. Talking on your phone and then holding your hands up is not menacing. What I posted were not of victims who were engaged in menacing actions. If menacing action education is your plan, I posted a vid of someone obeying police commands and still got tazed.

Well, it's open. I Googled "Solution to racism" and couldn't find any.

(Oh, and by the way, Trump is proposing we remove ourselves from the WTO!)

 

It is but damaging car is not, even slow driving the humps in my area are damaging, more so as the rough edges I complain about to council, as never know what damage is done to inside tires. I have argument with local MP and council one do they want small eco cars or not, I have as daily a Abarth 595 its small but speed humps it no like over SUVs

ok question again in interference, likely but we likely do same.

 

A blog post is a legal avenue?? You'll have to explain that to me. I'll write an opinion and call it a legal avenue.
Unfair tariffs? This is what the tariffs were that Trump is starting a war over:
This is why we need heavy tariffs on our allies:
Canada 0.8
China 3.5
Denmark 1.6
Finland 1.6
France 1.6
Germany 1.6
Japan 1.4
Poland 1.6
Portugal 1.6
Sweden 1.6
United Kingdom 1.6
United States 1.6
See how unfair this is!!!

We import more than we export!! That is why we have an "imbalance"!!
Do you know what the Canadian tariffs are going to effect? They are directed at Red States!! Purposefully!!