What Is The Security, If One Is Logged To A Infected Or Defected Ips By The Isp?

Discussion in 'Software' started by jraju, Jun 10, 2018.

  1. jraju

    jraju Private E-2

    Hi, Even if i configured the router and computer to maximum security settings, if i am logged to the infected or defected ip, then what is the use of having so secured settings? If supose, i log in to the infected ip available or alloted by the ISP server, then would it not compromize the total security?
    Normally you have dynamic ip alloted by isp when you log in to the router. You are assinged external ip, from among the users of the particular ISP and this is the IP from which you communicate with others thro network.Now, if this ip, is infected, say, compromized computer ip, then would it not also compromize your pc, when you log in to it?
    To make it more clear, that if a system , i.e.comuter user is having some vulnerabilities and if i log in to the ip of those who were infected.
    Any netwwork or geed would understand and clear me of my doubt
     
  2. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    If you have security on your computer you would not be able to get to a bad IP. If I click a google link and the site hosts malware, malwarebytes blocks the computer from going to the site and I get a popup telling me it has done this.

    Your router should also protect you from having strangers enter your home network. I have blocked remote administration (no one outside my home network can alter any router settings), turned off PnP, and only allow computers and devices with the MAC addresses I have entered to use the network.
    Normally a router hands out 256 addresses (IPs), I have mine limited to 12. We have quite a few computers, android devices, a print server and a wireless printer.
     
  3. jraju

    jraju Private E-2

    The external ips are given by the ISP servers on anybodys logging on the pc. My concern is there are some bot sites, which gives plenty of Ips as infected and you can see countrywise ips, that are affected. My query is , if i have enabled all sorts of security but log on to the infected ips mentioned in the bot sites, which is also used by so many forums to check the vulnerbility of spammers on their sites, what would those security settings would do?
    Please refer this link, it lists the no of ips infected countrywise
    Now i think i made my point clear to you all
    http://www.projecthoneypot.org/list_of_ips.php?ctry=DE&t=s
    Your idea of assigning mac numbers is a good suggestion, but would it not affect if you log on to an infected ips.
    You do not know, whose ip is infected , whether on good ip or infected ip as the server is allotting you the external ips.
    i come across this problem , when i had to give some more details to log in to my account in a genuine site, which i frequent with. The project honeypot server is used by that web site to filter.I supplied some more capcha to prove that i am not a spammer
     
  4. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    You are that security. All the PC security in the world will not help if you insist on visiting untrustworthy websites.
     
  5. jraju

    jraju Private E-2

    It is not untrustworthy site. It is a website forum, which i have been a member for more than 10 years . I think you do not understand what i am trying to convey. Sometimes, when i log in to that site, i was asked to give some more details than normal to log on to that site, if i log in to the time , that my external ip is alloted with a infected one. Normally i log on to that site without any problem. You might be knowing about those spamming mails or messages are doing rounds without the user knowing through those infected ips.
    My query is simple. What is the use of all secutity settings in router and pc, if your external ip is a infected one, on log.
     
  6. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Have you contacted the website owner?
     
  7. jraju

    jraju Private E-2

    Hi, Yes. He has said that he has linked the bot link to check the emails coming to him from the user and querists.
    What is the answer to my query, that external ips connection would turn ones secured experience , as compromized one if one logs in to infected ip. I think you may know what i mean by infected ips. Your external ips given or alloted by ISP, randomly thro their servers.
    In a short, I am asking, what if your security if you are logged on infected ips, which have been classified in my given link
     
  8. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    I think I see now. The IP address itself is not infected. The website you're visiting is making you go through extra steps because they believe you are a bad guy. ISPs are given a list of IP addresses they can use. When you access the internet, the ISP gives you one of the addresses. It's probably been previously assigned to another person. The website may have a blocklist of IP addresses previously used by untrustworthy people. If the IP address your ISP gave you was previously used by a bad guy and made the list, they may give you extra scrutiny to make sure you're not still that bad guy.
     
  9. jraju

    jraju Private E-2

    Sorry for the late replly. Ip address is not affected, but the website. So, what i gather from your replyl is IPs are just computer signal way of reaching the website. But i am a home user. So, does it mean that the ip allotted to the particular website has been compromized and the same was inadvertantly allotted to me on my chanced logging? Quite interesting. My query is if i am allotted that Ip by chance by my ISP, the security settings i made int he router, computer and settings are liable to be overriden by the same attackers, as they have already compromized the ip of that website.
    Expecting more from you,
    the knowledge i am having on this is limited and i am thankful to you to respond to my queries with replies to the points raised.
     
  10. dr.moriarty

    dr.moriarty Malware Super Sleuth Staff Member

    re: https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/e/externip.htm
    It is your IP address that that particular website is flagging for security reasons. You can quickly check if that site has reported as being compromised by entering its URL address into VirusTotal.
    ...only if your security for your home network is lax and itself has been compromised.
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2018
  11. jraju

    jraju Private E-2

    Hi, Dr, thank for the link.
    It is your IP address that that particular website is flagging for security reasons. You can quickly check if that site has reported as being compromised by entering its URL address into VirusTotal.
    jraju said:
    If i understand correctly, that particular website is flgging me for security reasons. So, their website is not compromized and my ip alloted is compromized in a way because of allotted ips of my ISP.
    That is the precise question i ask, So my ip isaffected, and all the security step that i would have taken is a kind of being affected on the time i log in to that ip.
    Is there any software in majorgeek, to denote me if i log in to infected ips address, so that i could watch immediately after logging in, so that i could relog in to obtain a different external ip on my next login in a ip that is not affected. How to know, if i am logging in to a infected ip or not? If there is a software that could give me a indication, i will avoid continuing in the same log in in the affected ip.
    If other sites, which do not have bot filter server link, would not show me that i logged in to infected ip, there is no chance that i know that i have logged in to an infected ip?
    network security is the key security feature now, please
     
  12. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    Your ISP assigns the IP addresses and no software on your end will change that. You could contact your ISP, inform them of your situation and request they reassign your IP address and see if that helps.
     
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  13. dr.moriarty

    dr.moriarty Malware Super Sleuth Staff Member

    Also - have you confirmed that your PC is NOT infected and is not the cause of that website flagging your IP address as a malware source?
     
  14. jraju

    jraju Private E-2

    Hi, Just ..
    Ofcourse, my ISP assigns the ip address. But having dynamic ip address , you are bound to get different external ips on different logins.

    Hi, dr. Yes, i have taken so much precaution that my pc is not affected. Using avast av, malwarebytes, for security. Changed admin pw and enabled DDOS protection in router. Moreover, i have enabled dhcp and so getting the internet thro my ISP. Protection of wifi password with WP2 encryptio;n etc.
    Is there any bot website, that i could link to alert me if i am logging in to infected ips? I am not having server but a single user pc.
    Even tried google dns, but found that at times , some foreign servers are allowed access in google dns servers . Changed back to my ISP.
    Using Router check, to get information on configured DNS and Actual DNS to check on weekly basis, if there is anything amiss.
    My query is , if a person is logged on to infected IPs, then what would be the concern of security tips behold?
     

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