Looking To Upgrade Motherboard.

Looking to up grade the CPU and RAM.Need help finding Ram.

Gigabyte Motherboard 970A-DS3P

I was looking to get 16 gigs of ram on the mother board for this game i am playing.It requires 8 to 16 gigs of ram.I am all ready buying an FX 8 core for 80 dollars.I have 175 total to spend.

I was looking at this ram kit https://www.amazon.com/MacPro41-MB8...3505011,p_n_feature_five_browse-bin:677429011

Would it work for this board.

 

The fact it says a dozen or so times that RAM is made for Apple and Macs ("early" Macs at that), and no where does it say Windows, and no where on the motherboard webpage does it say anything about the MacOS, that would give me concern.

You should ALWAYS refer to the motherboard QVL (qualified vendors list) for compatible RAM. Just about every motherboard maker posts one (and a CPU QVL too) for each of their boards. These list RAM the board makers have tested to be compatible with your board. The RAM QVL for your motherboard is located here.

Note there are just too many RAM makers and models for motherboard makers to test them all. So you don't have to buy listed RAM. But you should buy RAM with the same specs as listed RAM to ensure compatibility.

You might also check out the Crucial Memory Advisor. Most RAM makers have something similar. These either scan your computer (with a small download file), or you enter the necessary information and they will list compatible RAM. You don't have to buy Crucial but you can use the results to get/verify specifications of compatible RAM. But if you buy listed RAM directly from Crucial, they guarantee compatibility.

 

True that...

What Timing would you suggest.I was looking at 9-9-9-24 https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-1600..._rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=DQJH2KF2913NX3EPFAV1

Just looking for RAM 16 gb or 32gb .

 

Frankly, I don't pay that much attention to timings (except to ensure compatibility). More RAM trumps faster RAM every day of the week. There typically are bigger (smaller?) bottlenecks when you already have an ample amount of RAM - such as disk access and the graphics solution.

 

I think you're only wasting more money; 'board, GPU, CPU, RAM for an already outdated/underpowered system when a new Ryzen 2200G/'board/(no GPU needed, sell that GT730)/16GB DDR4 RAM would run you ~$350 - faster than the best FX 8-core and and upgradeable for years to come.

You have to draw the line under that old rig sometime.

 

Except you can get another 8GB RAM stick for $65. Beyond that and I agree, it is time to shop for a whole new system.

 

I am currently running Rust from steam and it 's a Ram hog.Other then that i run it fine.I use smart ram to release ram.

I only need upgrades on this system.I find DDR 3 works fine.Newer stuff still has bugs.Most DDR 3 stuff is tweaked and tuned.

 

Nah! That's just hogwash!

So is the need for Smart RAM. In fact, they tend to do more harm than good!

It always amazes me how those silly 3rd party apps gain any traction. Don't you think Microsoft wants your computer to run properly? If there was a need for a separate app to free up RAM, Microsoft would have put the code in Windows so the bashers would not bash them. Those teams of PhDs and CompSci professionals at Microsoft who are doing all the development work really are sharp cookies when it comes to memory management and Windows optimazation with their own operating systems. You are not smarter than them. I am not smarter than them, neither are those memory optimizer program developers.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it! And Window memory management ain't broke. In fact, you may feel you need more RAM because your Smart RAM program keeps dumping needed data from your RAM forcing the OS to head out to the slow hard drive again!

Don't believe me though. See Why Memory Optimizers and RAM Boosters Are Worse than Useless.

And DDR4 came out in the Spring of 2014. If there were any bugs needed to be worked out (and I am not aware of any), that happened long ago.

 

You not understanding the demand on RAM i need.

Smart Ram 3.0 Releases enough ram so my system does not freeze up be cause the current game i am playing is Rust off steam.I currently only have 4 Sticks of 2 gigs of ram.I have the game kinda off loading into paging file.It will take roughly 4 more gigs of paging.This is the reason why i am using smart ram.I have successfully played the game on 3.5 gigs with out any lag.The game is a current state a memory hog.
These are the Rust specs

• Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system.
• OS: Windows 7 64bit.
• Processor: Intel Core i7-3770 / AMD FX-9590 or better.
• Memory: 16GB RAM.
• Graphics: GTX 670 2GB / AMD R9 280 better.
• DirectX: Version 11.
• Network: Broadband Internet connection.
• Storage: 20 GB available space.

Edit: Smart ram does work.

 

These are the minimum specifications, have you already upgraded from the GT 730 you mentioned last month? If so, what do you have now?

What's your total outlay on the upgrades bought over the last few months so far?

 

I am afraid it is you who doesn't understand how Windows memory management works. Do you really think your scenario is that unique? It is not. And do you understand Smart RAM only does its thing when the CPU is not doing anything? The better solution is that described by the How-To Geek.

You really need to do your homework on this. Windows 7 is not XP. Windows 7 knows how to manage memory. Still don't believe me?

Do Memory Optimizers work

What you are actually doing by using this program is wasting some of your precious RAM by running this program! Freeing up RAM by not running extra programs with Windows is the better option, until more RAM can be purchased.

What are you using for security? A mistake by many is overloading systems with unneeded layers of resource hogging security programs.

Actually, according this spec page here, the minimum specs are:

So the current 8GB is fine, though more would be better.

 

Ram and mobo compatibility is always a thorny issue.

Perhaps I can provide an insight as I run this same motherboard, GA970A DS3P [rev 2.1].

I run 8Gb (2x 4GB modules) of Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 DDR3-1600, 2T. They are rated 1.5v which is compatible with this board. Timings are 9-9-9-24. Due to the memory controller on the AM3+ cpu, this ram should be run at 1333Mhz. These particular ram modules are LP (Low Profile) ie CML. The CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 are the same but with heatsinks.

This ram is on the manufacturer's QVL and works fine with no issues. In fact, I have just ordered a 16GB (2x 8GB) kit also from Corsair CML16GX3M2A1600C9. Fully expect them to work also.

Although running the ram at 1333Mhz may be a possible drawback, you can tighten the timings.

Good Luck

 

Here is some info.
Smart Ram 3.0

This is running with out any thing active on my system.

This is with Rust Loading just loading.

 

What's your point? I see nothing in either screen shot that is alarming.

Did you read the link I provided in post #8 above? There is absolutely nothing wrong with filling up your RAM. In fact, Why It's Good That Your Computer's RAM Is Full.

Modern versions of Windows use your RAM to cache data and for various fetch routines. That's all good!

As for claiming nothing is is active on your system in the first image, hogwash! All sorts of things are running in the background when the user is idle and no user programs are running. These include many housekeeping tasks, security tasks, checking for various updates, and more.

If you think having empty RAM is good, then you don't understand how operating systems use RAM. Stop thinking you are smarter than Microsoft. You aren't.

 

I got my ram today

Operating System
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 97 °F
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
20.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. 970A-DS3P (CPU 1) 87 °F
Graphics
ELEFW2217M (1920x1080@60Hz)
Hanns.G HW173 (1440x900@60Hz)
1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti (EVGA) 103 °F
Storage
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10JPVX-11JC3T0 ATA Device (SATA) 81 °F
223GB KINGSTON SUV400S37240G SATA Disk Device (SSD) 81 °F
Optical Drives
ATAPI iHAS324 W SATA CdRom Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

Ram
Type DDR3
Size 20480 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 669.7 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 9 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 9 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T

I am using my other Ripjaw ram it's 4 gigs total.Added with the 16 i bought.

They where both the same timing and voltage.Those ones i bought above.

 

Looks good. By the way, electronics are typically measured in Celsius. So to make things easier when seeking, and for those providing advice, it is best to list your temps in C° instead of forcing every one else to convert.

 

Is there away to up the clocks on the Ram.Or is point less

 

You would have to check your motherboard manual, but frankly, I doubt you would "see" any performance gains, except on paper (synthetic benchmarks).