Upgraded My Cpu.

I finally got the upgrade i wanted.

So i bought my self the AMD FX-8350 unlocked cores.

I ran some test and it runs perfect.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/14193331

System will boot in 10 seconds.

Operating System
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD FX-8350 26 °C
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
20.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (8-8-8-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. 970A-DS3P (CPU 1) 26 °C
Graphics
ELEFW2217M (1920x1080@59Hz)
8192MB ATI Radeon RX 570 Series (MSI) 22 °C
Storage
223GB KINGSTON SUV400S37240G ATA Device (SATA-2 (SSD)) 27 °C
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10JPVX-11JC3T0 ATA Device (SATA ) 25 °C
Optical Drives
ATAPI iHAS324 W ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

 

I still think it a mistake to go with a 10 year old operating system where "all" support (including critical security updates) will end in less than a year. Also,

10 seconds is impressive but remember, W10 boots even faster - especially with DDR4!

 

Until Microsoft get's there act together not worried about it.

 

LOL

Okay. I guess the fact W10 market share continues to climb above W7, while W7's usage keeps dropping just means the vast majority users must be clueless!

Just remember, it is not Microsoft you need to worry about. It is the bad guys. If not for the bad guys, many of us would still be using XP.

 

What we want is irrelevant. The OP is posting his results from his intended upgrade. A 10 second boot is not bad at all hardware wise . . . and he didn't indicate he wanted input on the OS history or what we thought about his project with said OS.

He described his hardware and OS . . . and the effect the upgrade had on that hardware.

I find myself wondering when Major Geeks became "that guy" . . .

 

I may be a curmudgeon. It has been a very bad day.

 

You think? You join a thread 5 days after the last reply just to gripe! ???

Not when the actions of others affect us too. W7 is not there yet, but before long, when all support for W7 ends, it will become like XP is now. That is, it will become a threat to the rest of us.

But even with Microsoft's continuing support today, W10 is more secure and easier to keep it secure than the 10-year old W7. And because compromised computers affect many more than just that computer or the users of that computer, what we want is indeed, relevant.

If folks don't want to hear what others have to say, they probably should not be visiting "forums" which, by definition are venues for "open" discussions where "everyone" has an opportunity to learn "and share". They are not places for those having a bad-hair day to stifle the opinions and ideas of others.

 

I will only upgrade to windows 10 when the bug's are fixed.Just like they did to windows 7.I normally wait a few years due to bug's in windows causing issues.I might end up buying a secondary SSD for just windows 10 as a dual boot system.

 

Sorry, but that really makes no sense. With 30+ million lines of code, they never got all the bugs out of Windows 7 just as they will never get all of them out of W10.

Okay. Windows 10 came out in August 2015. 3 1/2 years is not long enough?

As of today, there are no serious bugs in W10. And of the lessor ones, they only affect a tiny percent of the 700+ million W10 users out there. So you really can't use bugs in W10 to justify sticking with W7. And you cannot use security. Privacy with the latest updates is not an issue either. There is Start10 so you can't claim the look and feel of W10 prevents migration - it is very easy to make W10 look and feel just like W7.

Compatibility could be a problem with really old legacy hardware and software - but that's on the makers of that hardware to develop W10 drivers and for the software developers to release updated versions of their products.

W10 performs better with most hardware and programs. It boots faster in most cases (really fast with DDR4). And again, it is more secure.

So there really is no "technical" excuse. Sorry, but it is more likely just a stubborn bias against MS and W10. And that's your prerogative - as long as you admit to yourself you don't want to migrate just because you don't want to and not because you think W10 is lacking or inferior in some way.

And for now, that is fine. But it won't be when Windows 7 end of life support ends in less than a year.

 

I have had W10 for some time, and honestly, my own thoughts are not unlike wile e coyote,s
I get so cheesed off with the privacy invasion, and bugs in Windows 10, that I have W7 Ultimate, W8.1 (modified), and W10 pro- On one disc, and on a second disc, I use W10, with Virtual machines for W7,8.1, and Linux.
I have had to play around with W10 , at times with it's bugs, and bad updates, and often get the hump with it, and use W7, or,W8.1 at times until I feel like fixing W10- So, I sympathise with wile e coyote using W7.
Being retired, I have time to fix things, but sometimes , I lose the inclination when it first happens, especially if I need to get on-line for something. Then I go back to it.
Wile e coyote - nice start up time 10 secs. As you have W10 (why not try it in Oracle,s Virtual Machine in W7, as if it plays up , you can restart it within the Virtual Machine, and it will not save that error, unless you let it on shutdown (you get the option, before shutting down) Just like automatic system Restore

 

Are you surprised? There are still people bitterly clinging to XP.

 

The danger is security, no doubt. It is still viable for those who have all the updates, and modern browser, and antivirus. But I would only use it in a Virtual Machine, if I wanted to try to solve someone problem (I have a VM of that, too, all updated, antivirus etc: (and Mac leopard), amongst my tinkering.
I had a scan around a couple of old MacBook's that I managed to get working, just for the crack- that was why I made the Snow Leopard VM (not working as well as it could, but just to see if it was possible (maybe not legal, either, but just for testing purposes)
The owner of older systems may not have the readies to upgrade to W10, or, their system does what they need- Obviously, wile e coyote is careful, and keeps his system clean, as necessary, especially when it is no longer supported.
Sorry, I don't think W10 is that great, YET.... In the making (3 + half years.....) At present, I see W10 as the Windows Vista of what is to come- but that is just my opinion.

 

Yeah, I know.

I will only comment about this since the rest (including Windows Update issues) is anecdotal. Anecdotal evidence is not evidence and it does not reflect what is happening to the vast majority of the W10 users out there.

Sadly, too many people don't understand the difference between security and privacy. Microsoft and W10 are NOT trying to steal our identities, our passwords, our contacts, our bank account information. They are not trying to infect our systems with malware. Microsoft and W10 do NOT know our real names and are not looking for them. Nor do they know our street addresses. That fact is, MS with W10 are working hard, and harder than any previous version of Windows, to protect that information and to keep it from the bad guys.

BY FAR, Facebook and Google know more about us and are actively seeking to learn more, and to use that information to target us for their (and their partner's) financial gains.

But our ISPs are even worse and MUCH GREATER threats not only to our privacy, but our security too. Our ISPs already know our real names, billing information, credit information (including SSNs), and our street addresses. But they also know our browsing history and just about everything else we do online.

But that intrusion of privacy and threat to security is nothing compared to our cell phone carriers! Our cell phone carriers also know our real names, billing information, credit information, and browsing history. They also know who we have texted and phoned. But that's nothing! They know where we have been, where we are standing (to within a few feet to include the aisle of the store we are in! ), and they know the direction we are heading and how fast we are traveling!

If you connect to your home network via Ethernet with your Windows 10 computer, the closest Microsoft knows of your physical location is your PoP (point of presence). The PoP is the physical location of the facility where your ISP connects you to the Internet backbone. In my case, that is 10 miles away in the next town over!

And you are worried about W10 telemetry? It should also be noted there are tools in Windows 10 that let you control the telemetry settings, but also let you see exactly what is being collected.

 

I would think most geeks are fully aware of the privacy, and security issues, Digerati -
That is certainly not a problem, with myself, but I believe many of us like to be in control- We can control what Microsoft does to some extent, but non geeks would have more difficulty - With GPS, nowadays, everyone can be tracked by anyone, let alone Microsoft.
I do find it buggy , but I can cope, others cannot, and W10 has wrecked a few systems -like one or two updates, and that means money to business people -One of our own, on majorgeeks has had a knightmare keeping his works systems going, because of changing to W10.
I appreciate your view, and wile e coyote, ---I suppose it is like the old saying-"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

 

But again, Microsoft is NOT collecting personally identifiable information (real names, addresses, passwords, etc.).

Huh? What does that have to do with the price of rice in China in the summer time? Nothing! Just as it has nothing to do with Windows! W10 does not have GPS. That's a hardware function that PCs don't have. If your notebook does and you have Location services enabled, Microsoft can use the GPS for such apps as "find my device". Otherwise, you are back to the PoP location and local time zone settings.

That is just another example of misinformation that gets bantered about, exaggerated and parroted by the ill-informed.

While true, it really is a silly excuse. "One or two updates" out of 100s (perhaps 1000s) since Windows 10 came out! And even in the worse cases, it was in the low 1/10th of 1 percent range of users affected.

Has an update ever broken a Windows 7 machine? Of course.

Yes, even if 1 user out of 700 million has problems, that is unacceptable. But at some point realistic reality, and common sense, must kick in here. No body, not even Microsoft is perfect 100% of the time!

That proves nothing. There are over 270,000 members on this site. And 100s of millions of users worldwide who had no problems upgrading to W10!

I live by that rule - which takes me to my next point.

I run a little IT consulting firm and repair shop. We have been tracking problems with W10 since W10 first came out. By far, the majority of computers with upgrade problems fell into two categories. (1) They were older W7 computers to begin with and many of those were upgraded from Vista or XP. And (2) Windows 7 defaults were heavily modified by the user. And this latter point applies to newer systems with W10 installed that are coming in for repairs too. That is, many Windows 10 users who have been around computers for awhile seem to think the tweaks that were necessary with XP are still necessary with W10. So they do things like disable indexing. They install 16GB of RAM then disable the Page File. They disable Windows Update and tweak this and tweak that when what they should have done is live by your rule and not try to fix something that was not broken! Windows 10 defaults work.

Contrary to what many want us to believe, the developers at Microsoft are some of the sharpest on the planet and know what they are doing. I cannot always say the same for some of the marketing weenies and some of those making executive decisions - but that's for another discussion.

Oh? What are those bugs that you are forced to cope with? Which ones can't others cope with? Did you report them through the Feedback Hub?

Even if bugs and privacy were valid reasons 3 1/2 years into W10 (and they aren't) security is. And because W10 is more secure out of the box (to include the fact Windows Defender is very capable and continues to get better), security alone is reason enough to migrate to W10. Because the bad guys cannot wait for W7 to go the way of XP!

Is Windows 10 perfect? Of course not.
Can W7 be properly secured? Yes (for now!)

Here's a pretty good read on why W7 is still so popular. But please note the last section, "Should You Upgrade to Windows 10?"

 

I did report to Microsoft in W10 early days, as I got all the early previews, and I am afraid we are diversifying too far, as the thread was about the bootup speed wile e coyote got with his system. He has told us before that he will wait until he is satisfied- fair play on him. I like Microsoft operating systems, and W7 is still excellent, for now.