When Ac In Use, Should Laptop Battery Be Taken Out?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by tomsmg, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. tomsmg

    tomsmg Private First Class

    Hi, Which is best, I don't use the battery that much, Thanks
     
  2. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    No power cuts ever where you are??? That's when a battery earns its keep.
     
  3. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    No. Does your laptop user guide say to? No.

    There's no need to try to second guess the manufacturer.
     
  4. tomsmg

    tomsmg Private First Class

    I was concerned with over charging it while using the AC?
     
  5. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    In modern Laptops, Smartphones en similar devices, it's highly unlikely that the battery will be over charged.
     
  6. tomsmg

    tomsmg Private First Class

    Eldon, Thank you, that's what I wanted to hear.
     
  7. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    In fact, there are design features built in to prevent that.
     
  8. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I've owned 5 notebooks or netbooks. I have never removed the battery from any of them while keeping them connected to AC. I've never noticed a problem.
    My eeepc from 2008 still works though the battery life is a lot shorter. The Acer from 2011 had the battery replaced in 2017 so 6 years is a good run for a netbook that is plugged in the majority of the time.
     
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  9. edpolakoff

    edpolakoff Private First Class

    I never take batteries out of laptops while charging. I have however, been given 5 Dell laptops that were retired from a relatives office where 3 of the battery packs were swollen. One to the point that it was looking like a balloon was in the case. Replacing the batteries restored the case appearance snd computer functionality, but batteries will still go bad and swell. There were 2016/17 vintage machines
     
  10. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It should be noted that batteries can also become swollen due to heat from other sources - like being left in a hot car.

    Chargers are designed and selected with the capability to run the notebook and charge the battery at the same time.
     
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  11. edpolakoff

    edpolakoff Private First Class

    In the case of mine, these laptops were used as desktop replacements and stayed in an office. Bad batteries will swell...
     
  12. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Yep. Depending what is wrong with them, some will.
     
  13. XoXgaming

    XoXgaming Specialist

    I just had to replace my HP laptop battery from a power surge.The only time you should have to worry about it is when a power surge makes it unusable.My laptop still runs perfectly.
     
  14. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Batteries tend to be very tolerant of excessive spikes and surges. So that must have been some surge. Are you sure it wasn't a faulty charger? Or just a faulty battery that decided to go at that point in time? How old was it?

    How do you know it was a surge?
     
  15. XoXgaming

    XoXgaming Specialist

    The laptop is 7 years old.The laptop pretty much stayed on 24/7.And never had an issue.Power blinked one day and the battery stopped working.Tried every thing to reset the battery settings in windows.I ran HP battery test and it would either say 50% or 0% and not even come up on windows.
     
  16. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Okay, but I still suspect the problem was actually with the charger and/or charging circuits in the laptop.

    In any case, I am glad it seems to be working now.
     
  17. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    There's more to batteries than just cell construction. The power supply to charge them needs to be regulated. AC power must be rectified to charge a DC cell. The fact that the system can detect the charge relies on the loose equivalent of a voltmeter sensor. The PSU is the first PCB in the line of defense against surges, unless you are plugged into a backup PSU. If any of the sensor or regulating circuits are faulty, they can indicate a battery has failed even if it has not. And as mentioned above, there are physical signs that a battery has reached the end of it's service life/maximum discharge cycles.

    Exempli gratia, even a standard lead/acid car battery maxes out at about five years on average. If you treat a deep cycle nicely, it could last longer...
     

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