Looking To Upgrade Cpu And Ram Different System

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by XoXgaming, Dec 21, 2023.

  1. XoXgaming

    XoXgaming Specialist

    I have this computer that was given to me a couple years ago It is a HP Pavilion slimline S5000 model.

    Motherboard is a M2N68-LA.

    Would like to see if i can get cheap parts.While i was waiting for my new computer case for my ryzen system.

    Not sure what cpu can go into this.I think it currently is running a AMD Sempron 140 processor.
     
  2. XoXgaming

    XoXgaming Specialist

  3. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    I had this board in an SR2010-NX well over a decade ago. Most you can do is 4GB ddr2-6400 due to system limitations and a 95 watt Phenom II CPU.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2023
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  4. XoXgaming

    XoXgaming Specialist

    Does that Phenom II work with on board.I have one but i don't think it liked it.
     
  5. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Depends on the unicode of the BIOS version (5.49?) it uses and the wattage of the CPU. It's a Pegatron/Asus board. If it's a 125 watt CPU it most probably won't like it. Also, it's an OEM board, not an aftermarket version so upgrading it is more difficult. You could try flashing it with a modified version, but you also could brick the machine. Which socket is the CPU in question? AM3 will most likely not work...
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2023
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  6. LJR

    LJR Private First Class

    Both Phenom and Phenom II use the AM2+ socket architecture; it's NOT compatible with the AM2 socket/MoBo's. You have to be very careful about memory. Even though my Phenom 64/MoBo SAYS it can run up to 64 GB (?) of DDR2 memory, only two 2 GB memory modules (4 GB total) work, even though memory modules (greater than 2 GB) specifically for AMD processors were tried, more than once.
     
  7. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    This is an AM2+ socket. The BIOS unicode will not support AM3. The PhenomII is available in either socket. AM3 is backwards socket compatible.
     
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2023
  8. LJR

    LJR Private First Class

    Either way, the MoBo in question apparently ONLY supports the original, "AM2+" processors, and is (sadly) limited to 4 GB; two, 2 GB modules, that HAVE to be installed in pairs. (Modules more than 2 GB each apparently do NOT work with most, if not all, MoBo's.) So it appears the only slight "upgrade" might be to get a slightly faster Phenom II processor, and if memory can NOT be increased to more than 4 GB total, would be a lackluster system.
     
  9. XoXgaming

    XoXgaming Specialist

    It runs windows 7 pretty fast...but not sure how it would handle windows 11. I currently have a SSD supported.
     
  10. LJR

    LJR Private First Class

    Can you even SAY Windoze 11 and Win 7 in the same sentence? Seriously, a computer that was (apparently) originally set up to use Windows 7 will NOT have:

    1. a Processor of 8th Generation Intel or more recent
    2. UEFI boot (MOST will be legacy BIOS.)
    3. Secure boot probably isn't an option.

    The size of your SSD has (almost) NO bearing on the operating system, as long as it has enough spare space to accommodate the new operating system. Now, there MAY be ways to bypass SOME of those requirements with a full CLEAN install, but Win 11 will NOT run better (usually far less, and slower) than a Win 10 machine. Another "problem" is some of your hardware (such as a printer) migh no longer work with Win 11.
     
  11. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Windows 11 is "use at your own risk" for legacy hardware. There's a registry key bypass for that.
     
  12. LJR

    LJR Private First Class

    Then keep it at Win 7, or (probably not worth much more) Win 8.1. My Pentium dual core DID quite nicely with Win 8.1, and even was just a hair faster than a Phenom (AMD) quad-core, but when "upgraded" to Win 10, the two core Pentium was still booting when I was surfing the web with the quad-core AMD computer. For single-core operations (evidently up to Windows 8.x) the Pentium relied on processor speed, but the multi-cores seem to make a BIG difference when it comes to Win 10 and beyond. I'm not sure there are even "kludges" to allow your computer to try to run Win 11; and probably not worth it in the long run. I'm using a Win 10, i7-7700 and it's probably not worth upgrading by 2025, when Win 10 loses MS support, and most other software vendors will quickly follow.
     

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