Installing heatsink/fan combo over CPU

Ok, thanks Walter

 

I unplugged the computer from the power source while it was on but no go.

No disks are in the tray. The floppy I haven't installed yet.

I don't know how to do this.

I don't know how to do this either.

Thanks, I'll wait until I hear from you or baklogic.

I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about but I went into:
Advanced BIOS Features
- Boot Seq & Floppy Setup
-- Hard Disk Boot Priority
--- 1. Ch2 M : ST3320620AS (highlighted in red but when I pressed "Enter" it didn't do anything.)
--- 2. Bootable Add-in Cards

I have only 1 ext hdd connected and the DVD drive right now. I disconnected the ext hdd. Should I disconnect the DVD drive?

 

Just joking about the charging part DeniseM! We will get you running again. If you are at a point where you want to reinstall it that would most likely work. Or if you can wait a little bit, I can walk you through a repair. That is up to you. I do need to know exactly what version of windows you are running.

E

 

The Windows repair does not take long compaired to reinstalling, but yes you can do that. Someone help me out, my brain apparently is on leave. You can reinstall windows without killing your installed programs (usually). I just cannot think of exactly what option to choose during install... I think you just do a normal install, but do not format the drive.

E

 

I can wait to do a repair until you're ready. I'm using Windows XP Pro X64. If you need any other info, just ask. I have it disconnected from the power source right now and disconnected the ext hdd.

This is like history repeating itself.

When my daughter was about 6 days old, I was feeding her. She started choking and milk was coming our of her mouth and her nose and she couldn't breath. All I kept thinking was, "She's only 6 days old and I've killed her already!" My husband came over, tipped her over and patted her back, the milk came out and she was fine. LOL He came from a family of 9 children and he was the third oldest, so I guess he'd seen things like that. I was the youngest in my family and I knew very little about taking care of babies at that age.

Anyway, here's my new pc . . . only a few days old and I've killed it already!

 

Don't worry, we will get it back up soon.

E

 

I know we will . . . I've got all the faith in the world.

Denise

 

Hey Denise
This thread is getting Long, tough read
I'm not sure where you stand at this point, better to hose an OS or puter than the kids ( Most of the time )

Here's Step by Step x64 repair install http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winxpprox64/installxpcdrepair/indexfullpage.htm
A repair install will or should save all installed programs, you will however need to reinstall any MS updates

I dual boot XP pro & x64
Vista :crap has nothing to offer for me, IMO a waste at this point (Both XP & x64 have the edge right now performance wise:dancer )

x64 I like at first drivers were problem but much better now & many 32bit programs/utilities work just fine



Whats PCconPoint?

 

Thank you ASUS, repair install was what I was trying to think of. It is Sat. night, I blame the beer...

E

 

And I guess someone was pointing a gun at your head, telling you to drink the beer, Fred . . . heh.

 

Ya know when he's had too much, Beer, Yummy ?




When it run's out his nose roflmao

 

Hi Asus. It's been a while . . . nice to see you again

It's after 1:30 am here so I'm going to get on it after I get up tomorrow and I'll let you know how things went, hopefully from my own computer. Thanks for the link. I checked it out and it's my kind of directions . . . step-by-step with pictures

The 6-day old infant survived, grew up and left me her own to go off and play soldier.

I always had a thing about choking. My son knew it and used to fool around and make believe he was choking a lot. One night, he started choking again. At some point, I decided that I wasn't going to fall for it anymore . . . he was about 11 and I didn't look into it. My daughter came to me and told me that he was really choking. Those two were thick as thieves so I didn't believe her either. About 1/2 minute later she came back and was white in the face and told me that she really thinks he was choking. I ran into the bathroom and he was turning blue. I never officially learned it but I heard a lot about it and saw it on tv and and whatnot so I did the hymlick maneuver. The first time it didn't work so the second time I did it a lot harder and the food flew out about 2 feet. And you know what the first thing he says to me was? "Why'd you have to do it so hard!?!"

If you're lucky, maybe sometime I'll tell you about the time that I put him in the bathtub and he fell asleep. He was so quiet, I forgot that he was in there for at least 1/2 hour. He survived that one too.

Have a good night/day everyone and I'll see you tomorrow.

 

LOL Asus . . .

 

Good Night


Dont forget to check on the kids, on your way to bed

 

Hi , everyone,
I see and Fred, Asus has come in to point the way.- Fred, the grey cells sometimes need a rattle (my missus is a Poirot fan)
I would have said the same, but the link Asus provided is very useful, as it explains fully to all exactly what to do, and what a repair will do,in nice graphic form -
As for these so called repair, and booster programs, I am sorry, but I kept a seperate Partition to test some of these on, over almost 2 years, and the times they will break your system is innumerable. I found , so often, that their backup will only work, if it is done before shutdown.I admit, I keep an old 2000 copy of Nortons repair disk, but I only use Registry Repair Pro, now, when I am feeling lazy, and I check every repair they offer - never accept them all without questioning ! - To be fair most of them warn you of the dangers.
While I was testing them, I have HyperOs (using Partition Magic) I could simply drag a complete backup copy of the partition, that I made ,as soon as all installed- including drivers, and periphials, which stays permanently on another Partition , by drag and drop, and its back up and running in minutes, not hours. But, if I had not got this system, from what I learned , I would not use any of those programs.
These programs can find 3, or, 400 hundred registry , and shortcut,link problems, etc: but are not 100% accurate.- too easily available, and a novice can cripple their system with a click on a button.
Despite what Ihave said, I believe the vast majority of repair tools, which I have seen available on Majorgeeks site, are a very good selection, and used correctly, work wonders - but have to be used ,only after studying them well, and then with extreme care.
By far the best repair to Windows problems that I know, other than using the recovery , in XP , as now is a necessity, is to run the XP DISC'S ,(UNFORTUNATELY), LEAST PUBLICISED REPAIR TOOL, --- sfc /scannow---- which will replace faulty Windows files, and get most systems running normally again - but if safe mode will not work, or, last known good, then the Main Repair almost always, is the only way forward, to keep the rest of your work saved.

 

Sorry , but you nearly got all that twice

 

Nope, I like beer! And I leave the guns alone after a few... You know the redneck's famous last words "Here, hold my beer..."

I just don't like to get too technical with someone's computer unless my head is fairly clear. Now my own computers, well they are a different story. But so far I have not killed anything yet.:cool

Let us know how it goes with your computer.

E

 

Wise man, Fred.
Never mix your pleasures, enjoy the beer, but when you start to really enjoy the beer, and the focus wanes, ---just as long as you can still see the round glass, the flat glass becomes distant.

 

Good morning all

I just had a go at the reinstallation. I put the Windows X64 disk in the DVD drive and the computer started up as it usually does. I unplugged the computer (because there's no other way to turn it off in this mode) and, waited a minute and plugged it back in. It again went to the usual screen to boot up. There's no option to choose the DVD drive. So I went into Setup, Advanced BIOS Features, Hard Disk Boot Priority and chose the DVD Drive. I then pressed Esc to the last screen then pressed F10 to save BIOS and CMOS setting. The computer booted again and went to its normal screen and it was if I didn't change the boot sequence. The computer didn't recognize the Window CD in the drive.

Is there anything else I should or could do?

 

Well, since I had nothing to lose agian, I went back into setup and Advanced BIOS Features, Boot Seq & Floppy Setup and chose 2. Bootable Add-in Cards, then chose CD ROM drive, F10 to accept. I unplugged my pc to turn it off, waited a minute, plugged it back in. This time it went to the Windows Installation Screen. I chose Repair, it checked my pc for what it had, and the next screen says:

The only answer I came up with was C. Only one character is allowed to be typed. Should I type C?

 

I tried C, thinking it will go to the C drive, but it didn't. So I pressed 1 and a list of commands opened up. REPAIR wasn't an option so at this point, I decided FORMAT. When I typed it in, it said that it was not a valid command. It said if I needed help, to type /HELP. I typed /help but it said that it was an invalid command. I'm getting nowhere fast.

 

I got stuck at Administrator's password. My password is always just to hit the Enter key. When I did this in the repair, it gave me the Windows prompt again. Is there a way to change the Administrator's password in Setup?

 

I went into BIOS and changed the User password and Supervisor's password but it wanted Administrator's password to continue with the repair. I couldn't find Administrator's password among any BIOS setting. So I tried another option, Windows Automated System Recovery next. It went along find for a while but then it said "Insert Windows Automated System Recovery Disk into the floppy drive." I don't have this disk.

I'm stuck unless I can change the Administrator's password at this point.

 

Yes.
You only have one Operating system installation, and it is on C

 

Hi baklogic,

It won't accept C as the answer, only 1.

Typing 1 starts the repair process but it wants the Admin's password which is the Enter key. Pressing Enter gives me a command prompt and I can't go any further.

 

Remind me, is your Bios an AWARD BIOS ?

 

Ah------
You should have just pressed R.
The recovery console has tied you up a bit.

 

In BIOS, the title is:

Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS CMOM Setup Utility (CRU51-M9T)

 

Sorry, I was not about earlier, a breif copy of instruction:- (not my work)
3. Press Enter to start the Windows Setup.
do not choose "To repair a Windows XP installation using the
Recovery Console, press R", (you do not want to load Recovery
Console). I repeat, do not choose "To repair a Windows XP
installation using the Recovery Console, press R".
4. Accept the License Agreement and Windows will search for existing
Windows installations.
5. Select the XP installation you want to repair from the list and
press R to start the repair. If Repair is not one of the options,
read Warning #2 below!!
6. Setup will copy the necessary files to the hard drive and reboot.
Do not press any key to boot from CD when the message appears.
Setup will continue as if it were doing a clean install, but your
applications and settings will remain intact.

 

For Password, THESE ARE CASE CONSCIOUS

You can try first " AWARD_SW " (exactly as printed here, without the asterisks)

or, if that will not work, " j262" (exactly as printed here)


Otherwise, If you retry, following microsoft instructionsabove, keep me posted.

 

Hi baklogic,

It went through the whole process and it rebooted. When it rebooted, I received the same options that I've received since I installed Windows . . . to press F1 to continue or to enter setup. It won't move from this screen until I press F1 (never has). I pressed F1, it went to the Verifying Pool DMI screen, then rebooted back to the first screen where I had to press F1 to continue again. I pressed F1, back to Veryifying Pool DMI, rebooted again.

 

If you had the other computer clicked on the url, that ASUS GAVE YOU .....YOU COULD BE SURE TO FOLLOW.
but it is it is easy to be confused

 

Remember the hard drive that would not read ?

 

I'm not confused. I tried the link that ASUS gave me but I didn't have an Administrator's password and I couldn't go any further. The pictures and steps at the url are a little different because the url doesn't state that a password will be asked. I'll try it using the URL again and use the passwords that you gave me in an earlier post and I'll let you know how it worked.

I've written down your directions and the direcitons at the url, I'm not going by memory. I've checked them again to make sure that I had them written down right and I did.

It never started properly. The T-Force screen always came up first and unless I pressed F1 to continue, it wouldn't go any further. Then it would verify Pool DMI for about 10 seconds and then my log-in page was on the screen.

 

Sorry,Denise,
Tell me what you did, from the time , when I came on line, in the order that you did it, so that I can picture the steps you did-
Like, 1/ repair console...........

 

Sometimes it takes a while for windows to restart when installing/ repairing, it is possible that pressing F1, has confused Windows (don't laugh- it is easier than you think to confuse the worlds greatest operating system, the word confused is a variable )
If it will go no further , you may have to go for repair, again, only pressing R, and see if it picks up where it left off, or, tells you it is alredy doing it ...

 

Sorry if I fid not word the first couple of replies too kindly, I realised that you had been waiting for one of us to come on line, and wanted to give information quickly - I know how patient you can be, and it never seems to run as easy as the book says, does it.
Basically, the repair option can save you losing all the software work that you have done .... It is better than formatting, and having to do it all , again.
If you get tripped up, at the wrong place.... and it will not take you forward .... Retry, retrace what you did, ....But , if it does not succeed, by a certain time........you might have to reinstall, and start over...that is the worst part, when all your work has to be redone.

 

I have to go of-line now,I hope one of the others are about to keep you going, but, if you leave any information as to progress , or, not, I can have a look back in the morning - I am fighting a flu type virus at present, and these are as difficult as some computer virus, ---so 11 pm, - I have to log off.
Good luck.

 

Ok . . .

1. TForce screen came on
2. Next screen asks to press either F8, F9 or F1. F8 and F9 don't do anything. F1 is to continue so I pressed F1.
3. Using the steps given in the url that ASUS gave me, I had to first go into Advanced BIOS Features, Boot Seq & Floppy Setup, Hard Disk Boot Priority, Bootable Add-in Cards. I set the CD as bootable and pressed F10 to Save & Exit.
4. I unplugged the computer and plugged it back in.
5. At the prompt to start from CD, I pressed the space bar
6. Windows screen opened and asked if I wanted to Repair, Reinstall
7. I clicked Repair
8. It automatically started to copying files to the Windows installation folders.
9. The next screen said that Setup is initializing Windows configuration.
10. It rebooted by itself and went to the TForce screen
11. The next screen I had to press F1 to continue
12. It asked if I wanted to boot from CD. I pressed nothing and it counted down to boot from the hard drive.
13. The TForce screen came on
14. I had to press F1 to continue
15. It tried to verify Pool DMI
16. It rebooted
17. At the TForce screen, I clicked to go into Setup
18. I went into Advanced BIOS Features, Boot Seq & Floppy Setup, Hard Disk Boot Priority, Bootable Add-in Cards. I set the Hard Drive as bootable and pressed F10 to Save & Exit.
19. It rebooted, TForce Screen came up for 5 seconds, then I had to press F1 to continue. It tried to verify Pool DMI, it rebooted to TForce screen, so at this point, I was going around in circles.


Then I followed your directions.
1. I pressed Enter to start Windows setup
2. I changed the first boot device to CD Drive, pressed F10 to save & exit.
3. Setup loaded the files and started Windows
4. The screen said to setup Windows, press enter. I pressed enter and the Agreement license came up and I accepted.
5. I selected Windows Professional XP 64 (the only choice) to repair
6. I received a message that said "Setup has already attempted to upgrade C:\Windows XP Pro X64 Edition. Setup will try to upgrade again.
7. The next screen gave me 3 choices:
- press Enter to retry the upgrade
- press Enter Setup to continue installing a fresh copy of Windows
- press F3 to quit.
8. I pressed Enter to retry
9. Steps 8 through 19 above were repeated.

It looks like it's telling me that it can't repair . . . that I need a new install.

 

I tried waiting it out and not pressing F1 to continue but after 3 or 4 minutes, I decided it wasn't going to go anywhere unless I pressed F1. Next, it always had to verify Pool DMI before it went to the log-in page. Is this unusual for Windows X64?

 

Hey Denise. I know you haven't restored defaults in BIOS. It may be worth a try at this point as there is no harm (before you have to reformat). Since you kept getting stuck at the DMI screen, I think it could be some BIOS setting or if you added/ changed some hardware? What would be worth a try is (remove cd before trying any of this stuff) to disconnect any unnecessary devices (external HDDs) while computer is off, and restart. If it hanging at the "Verifying pool DMI" screen, wait for a couple minutes. If nothing happens then restart and go into BIOS and restore defaults. You should see that option at the main setup screen. If you look around you should see it say somewhere "press F(whatever)" to restore optimal defaults. For example it may say press F6. The terminology may be slightly different, but you are looking to restore default settings.

Also, I think you should clear CMOS, but see if the others here agree. I don't want to make things too complicated.

What I am getting at is that since you were having trouble with hanging while verifying DMI, then since DMI has to do with BIOS to OS settings, maybe it is BIOS issue, or corrupt cmos (I know your battery is good but maybe sometimes software can cause)? Anyone think that is possibility? Probably it is on the OS side though, depending on how far PConPoint goes to clean all areas including registry and such. Lets see what the others think, though, because I haven't had these types of issues too frequently and they may not agree at all. I am just trying to put all options on the table since the last resort is reinstall OS.

 

Hi Walter,

Thanks for your advice. I just finished doing a reintall of Windows. I have all of my programs on an external hard drive so I just need to copy them to the new one and install them. After spending a day trying to fix the damage that PConPoint caused and because I was getting the message that said

. . . I figured it wasn't going to be able to fix it by upgrading/repairing it since I tried 4 times and it failed.

It's ok . . . I'll just spend the next few days installing my programs again, it's not a problem.

Thanks for trying to help and thanks to Fred and baklogic too.

I would like to get out of having to press F1 at the screen just prior to Verifying Pool DMI. If worse comes to worst, I'll try to contact TForce somehow and see how I can get it to stop doing it.

Other than that, I've already started installing programs. I have Avast installed and all Microsoft updates. I transferred over a lot of my .exe files from my ext hdd so now I just have to create folders for them and install them into the folders.

I would caution anybody about using PConPoint X64 edition. They evidently didn't know how to write the program and from their email, they still don't know how to fix it.

If this is the worst that can happen to me in my lifetime, I'd consider myself the luckiest person on earth, so I'm not concerned about it.

I'm glad to have you all for help and advice. It means a lot to me.

Denise

 

Lets see, you had a lot of trouble building your first computer, had a lot of problems afterwards, reformated, and got it back up!

Good job DeniseM! Trust me, the next time you build one it will be much easier!

E

 

Fred's right, money says your next build won't even make 100 posts.

 

Oh, you guys are a laugh a minute! Next build? Argggh!

Actually, you all practically built it for me, but I am thinking about reformatting my old computer because I'd eventually like to network them. *I can see you all running for cover already! LOL *

We got about 8" of snow last night and it's still coming down, lucky us. I have to drive my grandson to pre-k . . . wonder if I'll get over the hump at the end of the driveway that the snowplows left. It would be nice to have no interruptions for 7 hour straight so I can get the programs installed.

After I reformatted, PConPoint was still installed in my computer. Can you beat that!

Denise

 

Hi Denise :wave

I cant keep up with this thread (its fairly large), so this question may be out of line

Are you sure you actually reformatted the hard drive ?
By definition the process deletes everything on the hard drive (in effect anyway)

 

You did everything right, but PCconpoint destroyed Windows too much.
I see that you did reformat, then.
It is possible that if you used format c:s, and left system files on, that something means other things get left in the mud.
You might try http://www.majorgeeks.com/AVG_Anti-Rootkit_d5249.html, as it appears to have rooted itself, and that might find it - BUT IF YOU DO , PLEASE DO NOT AGREE TO DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU COME BACK ON, AND TELL US WHAT, IF ANYTHING IT FINDS.
Denise, you have learned the first lesson - DO NOT USE THESE WONDERFUL MEND IT ALL PROGRAMS- COS THEY DON'T!
I you want to be sure that windows protected files are o.k, give yourself half to one hour, and put in your XP disc, -go to start, run, type in sfc scannow, and sit there withyour finger over the mouse button, and click retry everytime it shows, until the little slim box creeping line reaches the end - Windows will correct any corrupted,or, faulty protected files itself.
If you want to make windows slimmer , or, faster, look to some of the great helpers on this site, and they will usually be able to show you a safer way.
Much later, when you feel you know more about what those programs actually do,you will have learnt from this little episode, that, unless you control it, it can do more harm than good.

 

As in DVD - ROOTKIT - YOU ARE POSSIBLY MORE RELEVENT THAN IT SEEMED.

 

Walter, as you can see PcconPoint is still about , your suggestion does not seem out of line, to me, but , at this point, Denise will probably be going in too deep, for her basic knowledge, and if things wet wrong..........
Possibly trying to find it , and getting rid of it may be safer, at the time, ,if it shows in add and remove................ (bet it does'nt),
Has an uninstall of its own ................ (bet it does'nt),
Searching through search , will probably dig up a few files, and I would avoid advising removing them from there, in case they are attatched to Windows files,(which they often are) again, which could start the merry go round.

 

Hi all

I had 2 choice at the end. I tried Repair Windows 4 times and it just couldn't do it, so I chose the other option, Reinstall Windows. When it was finished, only PConPoint was left. I've been installing a lot of programs and fixing the settings to my preferences so I don't remember if I deleted from Add/Remove Programs or if I just deleted the folder in Program Files, but I do remember that it made me feel GREAT when I pressed that button. I felt like I was ridding my pc of a trojan or a worm.

I haven't seen a problem while I was installing the other programs after I rid my pc of PConPoint so hopefuly there won't be any repurcussions.

The AVG Anti-Root Kit is for 32-bit system only. I can't use RegSeeker either. It seems like it's going to be hard to find many 64-bit programs for a while.

Thanks for all of your help again.

Denise