Tragic Deaths at Virginia Tech

My condolences to all those that have suffered a lose in the recent senseless shooting at Virginia Tech. 31 shot dead!!!!!!!!

The one question I always have when there is this type of senseless violence is WHY

 

i have somehow managed to skip this particular piece of news. when did this happen?

 

Timw...I hope you find out soon.............laurie B. here's a link
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199001301&subSection=News

 

My prayers are with you Tim, and I hope she was as far away as possible from this heinous senseless act.

Laurie it occurred around 7:30 & again at 9:00 this morning, apparently the nut went into the dorms first, then two hours later went into a lecture hall area and killed again.............Details still coming in

 

jesus wept. dont know what else to say.. i've lit a candle, but that seems woefully inadequate. your niece is in my prayers.

 

Wow, thats terrible, why do these sick idiots do this?

 

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html CNN link,

 

and BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6560685.stm

 

So glad to hear that Tim.

I have so many mixed emotions right now.

 

Glad your neice is ok Tim, wouldnt wish that on anyone.

 

Hey I am so glad for you and your Family Tim.

Just wish I could say the same for all the Families that have loved ones at Virginia Tech........But mostly since I've heard about this the Question WHY just keeps repeating in my head, as well as How can we stop these senseless Killing Spree's

 

Good to hear that your niece is ok, TimW

 

Prayers go out to the families who lost loved ones.

 

Honestly, bcgray, don't think its ever possible to stop these things from happening with out stopping too many personal freedoms. They were talking about how the buildings during evening night lock down to keycard access, but if the shooter is/was a student, hes gonna have access as well. Early prevention/dection is promising but again, anyone one could snap at any moment you know. Its a balance thing, any body at any moment could be in a dangerous shooting.

 

Events like this don't seem like tragedies to me. Car accidents and tidal waves are tragic, this is mass murder. One thing that gets to me is the media including the shooter in the death count after he's blown his own head off like he's a victim too. Three cheers for automatic weapons:guns :mad :mad :mad :mad

 

It's sad that the students weren't allowed to defend themselves.

Gun Bill Shot Down

 

as someone who grew up in norther ireland in the worst of the troubles and seen tragedies like this on a daily basis i can sympathize with all those involved. my prayers go out to all the families involved..

 

I remember the answer why, "I don't like Mondays". The answer why never seems to justify the actions taken. What a senseless tragedy. What is left for us now is to celebrate the lives, and never forget we are all in this boat together. What seems sadder even still is that actions like this have become part of our culture. We all have problems, so listen up for the cries for help, and do something...

 

as an expat who spent some considerable time in northern Ireland in the late 60s and early 70s i wholly concur with your sentiments.

it is a terrible thing to loose a family member under such tragic and senseless circumstances please accept my sincere and heartfelt condolences

 

thankyou bugballou. maybe the very best thing we can do to honor those that died it to make a point of looking around and actively seek ways to help our fellow man. knock on the door of a elderly nieghbour or single parent next time you go to the store, give all your change to the first homeless person you see every day, find a way of doing something good each day. SPEND TIME, lots of time, with your kids.

if all i ever did was good, i will never repay the support i was given when i needed it the most.

most of all LOVE each other. my blessings and aloha to you all.

 

It is so sad...You never know...hope all who are still alive will heal quickly

 

Virginia gun laws made this tragedy inevitable. Its not the gun laws themselves that are troubling. In nearly every case there are warnings or signs that an event like this is possible. Its about recognizing them and acting on them as quickly as possible so that they can be prevented. You cant go around trying to ban guns for civilians as a constitutional controversy can be stirred up real fast.

Prayers to all those who lost family members on April 16, 2007.

heres a good viewpoint of why gun laws could not prevent this tragedy

 

I agree...we must start paying attention to these signs.....his writings were horrific

 

I'm glad your niece is okay, Tim.

Yes, a shocking and tragic waste of human lives in their prime. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the victims.

These incidents which are sadly becoming more prevalent in recent years are not a gun control problem, but a symptom of much greater sociological and psychological issues. Many people are neglecting the psychological and emotional needs of others, especially the young. Some parents need to start acting like parents, and be the role-model, councilor, friend and supporter that everyone, especially the youth need. Schools and colleges need to not only educate academically, but in social, ethical and sociological levels.

Time to stop passing the buck and start actually caring for the community, and ourselves, too. Because, like it or not, we and our families are part of the said community.

 

I am a student at Virginia Tech. They are all explaining these events as just unspeakable and that's really the only thing that really fits the events that have unfolded down here the last few days.

If anyone missed the Convocation or the Candle Light Vigil that were yesterday and last night. I urge you do go find those videos online. You can find the video of the convocation at www.vt.edu

Thanks for so many people that care. It's the greatest feeling in the world to know that so many people, Hokies or not, from all over the world have come together to unite with us Hokies in mourning and helping to overcome these tragic events.

 

Hey dell1705user I think I as well as all Major Geeks members, were totally appalled at the Tragedy that befell your Campus. That been said I think we should all remember that the tragedy the Hokies experienced at Virginia Tech could have happened on any Campus World-Wide. So like many have said before it is up to ALL of us to take a proactive part in our communities. We can not leave it up to the "Authorities", we ourselves must take part in helping our communities.

dell1705user, please let your fellow "Hokies" know we all share your grief, you are not alone.

 

It keeps repeating because these people are psycho, there is no answer. I think Quebec, Canada has had more than it's fair share of this, even with our gun control laws, it doesn't make a difference. We also have the highest male suicide rate on the continent. A refresher:

One dead, 20 injured at Dawson College The only reason this wasn't worse was that cops were busting a drug dealer nearby and heard the call. They just went in and killed him due to past experience of waiting for a swat team. Article below.

14 Women killed at Ecole Polytechnigue

Fabrikant Kills Four Colleagues at Concordia University

There's one or two others but I can' remember. Oh, the stupidity of kids. There were two teens sporting a paintgun in another school this morning. Needless to say they were arrested. WTF is going on?!

This is in a small geographical area also.

 

I am a student also. Please tell your colleagues that we are thinking of them.

Phillip

 

OUr thoughts are with those who were affected by this horrific event.

I have to reiterate Phantom's thoughts, the issue is one of lack of respect. For Self, others and life in general that is seemingly prevalent in the under 25 generation. I know it does not apply to everyone, but unfortunately, too many of them grew up without parents who were proper role models and without the parental support needed to make good decisions based on that respect.

I am not going to turn this into a rant, but believe me, I see it all the time in my neighborhood. The kids just don't give a darn about anything other than themselves and their instant gratification.


~C

 

Sounds like he just wanted to be famous to me,he filed off the serial numbers of the gun so he wanted to get away with it at one point,crazy people dont think like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1pj9i3hgRg

 

we are the products of our own society. for too long the american people have been given the message that money and possessions are what it's all about. more, more, more. two parents now HAVE to work in order to provide the lives that society deems necessary. two vehicles (or more) televisions, phones, computers, mp3's, etc. etc.

how do we now incorporate individual ambition and success with community responsibility? i wonder at the sacrifices this boys parents must have made in order to send him to this rather prestigious college. i wonder if seeking the appropriate help for their son was one of them. the educational 'business' is no longer a part of the social necessity to pass the torch to our brightest and best in order to strengthen and advance our communities, and no longer a part of what used to be that community's responsibility to teach moral fortitude.

how do we now incorporate individual 'rights' with the good of the community? the right to privacy, the right to equal or affirmative opportunities, never mind the right to be 'different', or the 'right' to bear arms?

it is of course easy for me to make these judgments. not too many people can simply turn their back on the daily struggle to stay afloat in an ever demanding financial nightmare, that predisposes the necessity to leave the caring of our young to day cares and after school programs, that replaces the time spent on family with electronic placebos, the preaches SELF-reliance, SELF- attainment, SELF-awareness, not community resource, common good, and social obligation.

we have to change. we have to change our focus of intent. we have to change our balance of wealth and privilege. we have to change our legal, educational, and medical systems to the concepts of good and right, as opposed to financial where-with-all and a profit/loss sheet. we have to start looking outside ourselves, and our own families, to what is happening out side our doors.

this poor boy sounds very much to me as a paranoid-schizophrenic. not a condition easily missed, but one that is difficult to treat. almost more worrying is that i heard today that suicide was the second greatest killer of college-aged kids. not being shot up by a mentally unstable, educationally unsuitable, social outcast, but by their own hand. where is the outcry over those statistics? the memorials for those youngsters?

each time a national event occurs we wring our hands in horror. 'how could this happen' we say. meanwhile we don't even know what our own kids are doing. we don't even know how our immediate neighbors are, or even who they are.

i am in a place where the biggest difference between rich and poor is not the money, but the community. the well off have 'hobbies' to socialize; day care for their children; college savings accounts; separated, fenced off, properties; therapists, gardeners, house-cleaners; 'trappings'
the poor have each other. their hobbies ARE socializing, their families provide their care, ohana joins together to further the education of those that thirst for it, therapy is a cold beer and a warm hug, gardening is a way of harvesting what god provides, chores are not a way of earning 'allowance' but a part of what each person does, doors are never locked, there are no 'secrets', no isolation, everybody is 'auntie', 'uncle', 'sister', 'brother', 'cousin', and achievement and disappointment are family and community orientated, not individual ups and downs.

i do not know how one gets back to this. i just know that because i am fortunate enough to live it, i can see the difference.

i hope that SOME good has to come from this awful tragedy.

my aloha as always

 

There all in our prayers

 

One of the kids who was killed worked for me about 5 years ago. Even out of state it hits home.

 

What's horrible is the that nation is desensitized to the whole thing. While most will admit it they never though it would happend there, none of them seemed shocked that 32 or 33 people were killed. Watching the loss of humanity via telivision is harding.

 

Worst yet, the copy cats are cropping up all over the place. They have had to close I don't know how many schools due to threats, these are collage students, people going on to medicine, law, politics, too scary.

 

Thats the other side of America and the world, they will partially sympathize that a horrible event like this has happened, yet after a few days forget it ever happened. The only ones that can be truly affected by this event are direct family members of those killed.