Teenagers.. I hate you.. deal with it.

of course there are exceptions but for the most part I have a new view of teen agers. I hate you first until you can prove to me that you're not a disrespectful piss. Yep.. in my books you're guilty until proven innocent. Sorry, I just can't help but think how different you are compared to how I was as a teen. Yes, I did crazy stuff.. stupid stuff in-fact. I was careless, wreckless and generally a risk taker .. to a point (the point of causing others or myself any harm).

I was a lot of things but one thing I was not was disrespectful to others. If, for some reason I was, there was this magic hand that came out of nowhere and smacked the back of my head. It was amazing really how much I loved my father and respected him that I would not want to embarrass him with my own disrespectful behavior. If I did.. the punishment was severe and I would be mad at him for the punishment but, as a parent now, I know it hurt him more to punish me than it hurt me to be punished. It took a lot of love and courage to punish me and I can see and feel the same way as my father did because of how I feel towards my son when is acting disrespectful.

Tonight was a bad night for me and it could have been worse. There were some kids racing in my neighborhood and I yelled "slow down" to one of the kids and promptly received ye ole "F U" in return. So I went to go find my wife and son who were talking a walk and if it turned out that I found these kids, I would take down their plates and addresses. I didn't find my wife (she's ok..she actually was around the corner and didn't see me as she went home the other way) but I found the kids. Yep..I stopped.. got out of my car and lit up the vocabulary like a sailor. I will not have them test me, I will not have them disrespect my right to a safe environment, I will not tolerate being disrespected. After a little bit, we came to a quasi agreement.. He didn't like to be yelled at.. I didn't want him to speed. He agreed to slow down and I said that's all I want.. and that there was no need to get nasty about it, but if he wanted to say "F U" to me to expect it in return ..up one side and down the other.

I got back in my car and then the other kid came out of his house.. He got in my face so I told him what for.. vulgarity, yes.. but it was the only language he seemed to understand. I also smelled alcohol on his breath and I got enraged and called him a "liquored up [bleep]".. as a survivor of a Drunk Driver (that's another story), I have a pure and deep hatred of any one who drives under the influence.. this is not a dislike .. this is a cold, deep, passion filled hate for [you]. I cannot explain my hatred as explicitly as I would like as it would be a small novel.. suffice it to say that I would gladly dig up your grave to piss on [your] remains.

Alas, the confrontation ends up with this guy in my face and we're both waiting for the first throw..but I'm not stupid and was banking on the liquored up individual to throw first.. lucky for him that he didn't. His friend pulls him away and we part.

They both leave.. the liquored up kid.. his father comes out side and I spoke to him as an adult and he agreed that his son has problems... a few minutes later, they return.. the liquored up fellow (the mans son) starts crap with me and the father barely does anything to remove him so we can have an adult conversation about his son's disrespectful behavior and problem obeying the the speed limits. Needless to say we left it at that I would not call the cops on him and his son should consider himself lucky on both counts.

Sadly they drove past my house and he was staring me down.. this happened several times and I don't play that game. Where I come from a stare down was an invitation to an *** whoopin' .. but I'm older and wiser these days and I have to let the police to the *** whoopin's .. so I called them up and they sent an officer down. Now, the cojones on these guys.. get this.. they drive by yet again and ..yes.. they WAVE to us . Now that may seem harmless but after the stare-downs, this was clearly a "you can't do squat to me" taunting. Not so fast jack.. the cop pulled them over and gave the one kid a breathalizer test .. .01 is legal so he's lucky a third time that I didn't call earlier or he would have been busted probably.

This is a wake up call to parents.. I'm sure there are exceptions out there but .. YOU SUCK as parents. If you don't like that I said that, then you probably are:
1. easily offended and are looking to be offended
2. are a bad parent to begin with and deep inside you know you suck and your kids are screw ups.

If my son ever acted like that and parent came and told me what my son did.. he would not see the light of day for a year and I would sign him up for so many public service hours he wouldn't have time to get into any trouble. Yep.. the word military school comes to mind. Christ, If I ever did what these kids did and my father ever found out.. I would have the crap beat out of me. My father is a great man and I love him more than life itself and I'm glad he raised me to be a respectful person .. someone who shares knowledge, someone who genuinely enjoys helping people and someone who cares about you whether you know it or not. I mean, I have helped people on this forum for years and with the new job it's more difficult to get into software fixes and such as I'm busy taking care of my family etc.. but the many of you who know me, know that I would still be pounding the forums if it were any other way.

Today's lesson:
1. To you teen agers that think you're badass. You may know your rights, you may think you're invincible, but I am not afraid of you and I would sacrifice my self for the safety of my family. You can't stop a man who does not fear you. Remember that, because I will. Also, you may think you know it all but I can guarantee that if you do think you are omniscient, that you are so wrong on so many levels.. I can't count that high. At 18.. you're pretty much clueless. Get used to it; we've all been there.

2. To you parents that think your kids are angels. Been there, done that, have the T-Shirt.. Get involved with your kids and make sure they understand that their place is not a place with authority. Sorry teens.. you haven't earned that right yet. 18, 19 years old.. I've got scars older than you and when you get in my face because you think you got some trick up your sleeve .. so do I.. only I've had more time to learn more of them and perfect them. Don't try to trick the trickster.

In conclusion.. Teenagers these days are not what they were decades ago and they need to be taught a lesson. They're not afraid because they know the law.. well the law of mom and dad has its' own set of rules that lay down the framework for obeying social norms including the laws of government. This is such a "me me", selfish world and the cycle needs to be broken. That can only start in one place... at home.

I have to go now.. my son needs me to be his father.

 

WOW, hope this helped to get it off your chest a bit.
Good job on not letting your emotions rule your fists!!!!

 

Whew, all I can say is good rant! As I teenager I did some pretty dumb things, but I never did lose respect for my elders. I knew if someone called about me, I was in deep do-do. My Dad always said go to jail and he would bail me out. ONCE. After that I would be on my own. Excuse me, gotta go.
Hey!!! You kids get off of my lawn!!!!

 

Most excellent rant sir!

 

Kodo, I didn't read a single thing there I disagree with.

Well said, indeed.

 

Well, I am glad that I got a positive response .. I was expecting a barrage of responses from teenagers who know it all

 

Its past there bed time!

 

And on behalf of mature and well-mannered teenagers, I thank you very much for judging everyone based on a couple of assholes who annoyed you

 

I'm hoping that's sarcasm.. because if it's not, then reading comprehension must be a skill that is not taught these days.

 

Lot of truth there Kodo, however, I believe the majority of teens have respect. You only notice the ones that stare you down. Out of all the kids that grew out of our peer group, only one family's kids have no respect, and they are terrible. Came from them never having to accept responsibility for their actions right from when they were toddlers. Strangely enough this family also has the highest income out of our peer group.

 

Unfortunately this is not something I've been experiencing lately. This is not the first time this has happened in this neighborhood. I get this same crappy attitude from a lot of teen agers.. just go to the stores. The kids at the counters don't care. They are there for a paycheck. There's no value to anything they do. This goes beyond just kids that talk poop .. this is an epidemic. It's like they want to get paid for doing nothing. Even further beyond that though. I could go on and on.

Like I clearly stated in my opening paragraph.. there are exceptions and I think they are not the norm. At least not here in the USA.

I don't just notice the ones that just stare me down. I notice the ones that are polite more than the ones that stare me down because it's a rarity.

When I'm out in public.. I listen to the way they speak and frankly half the time I wonder if it's English. I know times change and things change but there some things that just won't or atleast shouldn't change.

Go ahead.. pierce your face, wear skimpy clothes, wear baggy pants and be a follower.. I know lots of kids that do this and they are just plain good kids.. I'm not saying that that kind of stuff equates to "bad".. it's more about how they carry themselves and interact with others. Body postures.. comments, inflections.. It's really a study of human interaction and it amazes me how these kids treat other people.

 

It is the norm in certain areas, and not others. What you are talking about is culture, and accepted behavior.

We have areas where hip-hop gang bang culture is accepted the norm, and I see exactly what you are talking about. But the majority this isn't true. Come to red neck country, you'll see a different norm, as well as other parts of the USA.

I don't blame the teens as much as the parents. Kids will do what they can get by with, if you let your kid join gangs and act out, then that is what you get. If you don't, they will probably be decent human beings.

Parenting is more than 3 square meals and a room, you have to teach your kids, both by example and word. They may not seem to listen, but they do. Mostly, you have to be involved. I spent around 2-3 days a week involved in volunteer work being a youth advisor to give my boy (17) a safe place to hang out and be a normal kid, and I am a parent every day of the year. Too many people think they don't have any responsibility in this reguard, and then wonder why their kids turn out the way they do.

 

Hey KODO i am in full agreement with you, i am very fortunate that i live in a quiet neighborhood but we do see when we go to the city.

the manner of the youth today seems to be that i have the right to be as aggressive as i please and F.U.

here in Europe it is now forbidden to physically chastise kids(thank to all the wet liberals) so they realize at a young age there are no consequences for their actions, police and parents are in the same position that if they were to strike a minor there is a chance they can end up in front of the Judge.

i have two nieces one 6 year old and the other 4, the older was giving her sister a hard time (pushing and pulling hair) so i leaned over and gave here a light tap on the backside to witch she retorted YOU HAD BETTER NOT DO THAT OR I WILL TELL THE POLICE this from a 6 year old, i asked where did you hear that she told me that the teacher at school had told them that no one including their mom n dad did not have the right to chastise them.

i asked do you know what chastise means the reply was no but i know you can't smack me.

has the world gone MAD

i am 60 and grew up at a time when you gave respect to olders,i also spent 18 years in the Marines and boy did i learn respect there.

i still say please and thank you (it costs nothing to be polite) but very seldom here it from the younger generation.

like KODO i get really P$$$$D off at the attitude of the youth of today but have to restrain myself or go to jail:major

 

Kodo, you've made many valid points and in your instance your point of "I hate you first until you can prove to me that you're not a disrespectful piss" is understandable, but I can't totally agree with it.

Having done voluntary work in community environments and dealt with troublesome juveniles (and their parents) many times over, I've taken tacts of imposing juveniles with responsibilities (that utilise their skills/interests) that carry high expectations of results. I've found such goal setting an indirect way of showing them respect (ie the expectation is that they can perform as expected and trusted to do so), appropriately challenges them while producing positive results.

Sometimes no matter how watchful, loving, caring, carefully disciplined parents are, their children can also go wrong. When trying to find the where/how wrongs happen, sometimes it points to the influence of teenagers' peers. Here, juveniles have betrayed their parents' trust.

If children don't understand the meaning of TRUST given them by parents, then they will never understand or learn the meaning of responsibility.

Cheers

LS

 

Communication of law edicts and its interpretations particularly when done by children gets sadly distorted. I don't believe your "tap" was incorrect, rather your niece's interpretation and understanding of the law was grossly misunderstood. There's a grade of what can be considered a "form of assault" which includes intent and your tap doesn't fall into it.

Cheers

LS

 

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. Authorities the world over have a tendency to believe anything they want.

On topic though, I'm still of the firm belief it's only a small, noisy sampling of teens. Big cities seem to attract people like that, I suppose it's one of the hazards, but it's also the reason I'm glad I live out in the country. Yeah, we still have the same problem, but around here there isn't such a dense concentration of stupid.

I spent an entire semester at the local college with just the sort of person you're talking about. I had the urge to deck him the whole time.

 

Im 17 and my parents own a coffee shop and 90% of the teenagers we have come through are good kids but the other 10%.... I personally have to call the cops on them atleast everyother day because their so disrespectful and a few times have even been drinking as young as 15 in public! If you want a reckless teen thats them, get drunk in public without even a person thats over 21 around, yeah that was one of the most satisfying moments to me in the past 5 years i'd say was seeing those jerks get arrested. My mom and grandparents have absolutely no tolerence for disrespect for your elders so it's been beaten into me (not literally). I love my mom and am very proud to say shes my mom and shes the primary owner of the coffee shop and its why I HATE that 10% that disrespect her shop because I think shes one of the most respectable women in my town.

A funnier story of respect..... one time my little brother back-talked my mom and my grandpa was enraged and yelled over my little brother (5 years old at the time) "don't you back-talk your mother like that!" and he grabed his rear and bolted for the bathroom, now thats scaring the crap out of someone. My grandpa is awesome like that

 

I take it you're slightly offended.. which probably means that you're a teenager. I could be wrong.. it happens. That being said, "fair" is subjective. Do you think it's fair that my kids can't play in their own yard because these kids drive so fast who knows if they'll have an accident and come flying into my yard and kill my children?

Because you were offended, I am apt place you under the "easily offended and are looking to be offended" category.. if that's not the case, then I'm sorry.. but it's just as easy to not respond to my post as it is to press the submit button.

 

You're the exceptional case.. I salute you.

 

I dare any authority to try to take away my right to be a parent. If my son is misbehaving, he will be punished. If that means a good whack in the butt.. then so be it. I will not have my children growing up and acting like these teens today.

 

I know that there that anomaly that can thwart your parenting regardless. That doesn't mean that I can't/shouldn't stop what I'm doing, however. Regardless.. you kind of proved my point though.. by giving them responsibilities.. you are essentially tasking them. That's a way to prove themselves first and foremost. It's a kin to 'guilty until proven innocent' just a different set of circumstances and maybe not as profound as "guilty"..

 

Lol thanks Kodo its why I get along with adults so much more then I do people my own age. Theres only one or two people I can actually trust and like that are near my age. I also just realized that you live in Syracuse, my aunt and uncle live there and my aunt is the Dean of Nursing or something like that at one of the universities up there.

 

Well, it's hard to judge people by reading what they write, but the mere fact you that didn't seem be offended and reply with some childish statement like "it's not fair.. wha wha wha" leads me to believe that you are among the rare few who understand where their place is in life. I don't mean that to sound condoscending... just that I've been there myself. I knew, as a young man, that I didn't have a position of authority at 17 or 18 years old. I hadn't earned it yet . It's like some of these people haven't earned a thing in their life and they think it's their right behave the way they do. Reverting back to my story.. driving is a privilege. NOT a right.

 

Kodo, I don't think there's anyone on here who would challenge you for this - it's exactly the same here in the UK, although our equivalent is "chavs" (google it for more info - they're easy to spot and all look the same!)

However, this is/was a minority of teenagers now as the majority of teens are in fact well behaved and respectful towards each other, luckily I don't have any problems here in my village but when you go to bigger towns/cities there's plenty of em!

Glad you showed them who's boss and stood up to them

 

Its 10pm, cold and dark winters night in Glasgow, there are five kids hanging about outside the pub/bar, they are only wearing t-shirts,jeans and trainers. They know how to swear like a trooper, they ask for a smoke or money from passers-by, they kick out at you - their parents are inside getting drunk. These kids are aged between 4 and 7 yrs old.
You shake your head in disbelief confused.
The older kids aged 12 and above are hanging around in gangs of 30 or 40 on the street corners. They are armed with golf clubs and knives. They are screaming obscenities at anyone and everyone. Looking for a fight. You do not stare at them, you cross the road and pray that they will not attack.
This is a minority.

The majority of teenagers/kids are too scared to venture out because of the threats of violence. This majority of teenagers are like any other: just learning about life - as we all do
Up and down the UK in most of the big cities this behaviour is all too common.


How can you educate the parents - you can't as they are in a different world.
I am like the majority, in that if some teenagers or younger are misbehaving, I mind my own business and stay out of their way. IMO

 

I know what you mean man. Granted it is more attitude than driving that is an issue in my neighborhood, but I keep saying that I need to get out of this place before I become a bigot, because people are going to push in that direction...... and anyone who knows me knows that I am not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.


~C

 

Around my area somes teens did an unspeakable thing. There was a memorial dedicated to all veterans and they drew swastikas all over it. Absolutely unthinkable that someone would do that.

 

As I said once before, If my kids spoke to anyone like that or acted in that manner, I would be in jail for child abuse. You can't control them 24/7 but when you find them acting that way you can surely put the fear of god in them. A lot of parents are as bad as the kids, probably where they pick it up. Mine are grown have their own children, same rules apply.

 

Were to start…………..Firstly nice Rant Kodo, have done a few just like that myself I must admit, not proud of that fact, just a statement.

RANT:- • Speak/Write in a loud, angry and forceful way – Origin: Dutch - ranten “talk nonsense” Source: Oxford dictionary

HATRED:- • "Hatred" is also used to describe feelings of prejudice, bigotry or condemnation (see shunning) against a person, or a group of people, such as racism, and intense religious or political prejudice. The term hate crime is used to designate crimes committed out of hatred in this sense. Source: Wikipedia

Having raised kids that are now in there forties, with Grandkids in there mid-twenties, and Great Grandkids getting ready for Kindergarten I feel I have just a little experience in dealing with humans going through those “Teenage” years (we presently have a adopted boy who this year will be entering that stage of development). That said I can state over all that time Parenting and Teaching Teenager’s I have not noticed that the “Majority” of teenagers are any different now than when I myself was a teenager. They still test boundaries, still have to deal with the changes to there bodies, and still have to make all the same type of mistakes we ALL did going through those same Teenage years. The only thing that I have seen change over the years is that with Genderification, teenage females have started to exhibit the same habits only seen in the males in the past.

By the posts to this thread I can see that many have taken Kodo’s Rant and run with it. Why?!, that is for you to decide. For myself, I think that condemning any segment of society because of the performance of a few individuals is just plain WRONG. Say I went to the Italian Section of town and were treated in a like manner by the residents there, would it be right for me to condemn ALL Italians. I think not. The brush of “Anger” never paints a nice picture

 

Ok.. you work for a school district.. c'mon now, we ALL went to school and we were ALL teens. Maybe it was just where I grew up and the people around me. I had nothing in common with them. I couldn't stand the jocks because they thought their crap didn't stink. Their arrogance made the air around them putrid. I got along great with REAL adults. I was in trouble a handful of times mostly because I was sticking up for someone else who couldn't do it themselves.

Believe you me.. teens can pull the wool.

Now about that jab.. it's my opinion that "it's not fair" sounds like a 3 year old whining about not being able to have candy. You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine.

You're 23.. I'm almost 33. I remember being 23.. heck, I was married at 22. A lot younger than most people these days. Any way.. 23 is still a time of clueless-ness... just the tail end of it. Maybe that's not who you are.. maybe it is.. there's a hole in the wall that I've never seen before either.

You seem pretty reasonable..and I'm sure you understand my point as much as I understand yours. However.. my opening paragraph clearly states that I am aware this is not the case for every teen ager in existence. Though it is my opinion that the situation has gotten worse since I was a teen. 10 years difference is quite a bit of time to take in the scenery and I assure you, those who are older than myself would agree that there are still more difference yet between my gen and their gen.

 

Come on Kodo, I was with you until the You're 23.. I'm almost 33. I remember being 23.. That kinda goes back to being 13 by trying to one up someone. If you are never in a state of cleuless-ness at 32 then I find that hard to believe. Learning and figuring out life is forever.

He who knows everything can be taught nothing!

 

Trust me.. I'm not proud of it either. But as it stands it's been happening in my neighborhood since I moved in 8 years ago. Out of the handful of kids that I was actually able to speak to, 1 .. ONE! was adult enough to never speed in the development again. Mind you I was pleasant as could be when initiating my conversation with them. Those circumstances are always a little stand offish. So it's hard to be 100% not upset on both parts.

The rest were met with the "F U" and took off.

If you went into an Italian neighborhood and were treated like this consistently, you may be less inclined to go there with any great frequency. So you would in essence be condemning the Italians that live there .. good or bad. This is my bottom line point. Who do you trust? when do you know to trust them? I'm really not an aggressive person. Infact, I'm pretty easy going and I can take a lot of crap from people, but if it's one thing I know.. it's how to read people (I have a degree in psych). Sheesh, you've seen on TV... neighbors claiming "Johnny is a great kid.. he'd never do anything like that".. yet he did and court of law proved it (just one point of view). My stance now is that I will not trust them (perhaps hate was too strong a word.. I was freshly upset) until they can earn that trust.. that was my problem in the past. I was too trusting up front.. too open armed. No more.. no way.

 

That's something that is definitely missing.. community support. People here are too afraid of being sued if they yell at someones kids or something. This fear of legal repercussions has really hindered community

 

Hey look.. a 70 year old has lots of "1 up's" on me. What's your point? can't deny the facts there.. sorry.

 

Kodo, I'm older than you, and I think you are wrong. I work with teenagers for a living, I teach the supposedly worst year groups. Sure, I get the odd student who doesn't know respect and manners, but the majority does. The problem is that it is the ones that don't, who are the loudest, so those are the ones you hear and see.

In some areas, because of poverty or cultural problems, it might be worse, but if you have 2 kids on your street who are bad, how many good kids do you have there?

Also... Students very rarely talk back to me and I think that is because I don't expect them to!

 

I hate everyone, I dont care how young they are...I discrminate equally.

That said, I believe in people earning my respect, and if you are a kid, you earn it. If not, you don't get it. If some punk was staring me down, like I said in the SB, I'd beat his arse, and then take it to his parents if they disagreed. Woth the jail time? Damn straight it is.

I know not all teens are like that, but I expect them to be, and it doesnt ever surprise me when they are. I spoil my daughter rotten, however, she shows EVERYONE respect, and knows what respect is. I make sure of it. She wont end up like today's kids.

Kodo is also in New York, which is the birth place of the original a-hole. So, dont be hard on him when its the norm there.

 

2 quotes, for your thoughts: :major

"We live in a decadent age. young people no longer respect their parents.
They are rude and impatient and have no self-control"

(from an inscription on a 6,000 year old Egyptian tomb)

"Corruption, vice and laxity are the rule today. This is particularly true among our youth.
Our society cannot endure, for young men of our race are given up to vain pleasures.

They think not of the morrow. They live in folly for the day.

Woe, woe to our land, the land of our fathers."

(by Urakagina, ruler of the Sumerians, 2545 B.C.)

Bazza

 

2 kids that I caught.. you can ask how many good kids there in the neighborhood and I can ask you the same question.. how many bad ones are there that we don't know about but are really good at pulling the wool and make it appear they are just peachy people. Sorry, I'm taking the glass if half empty approach from now on.

 

The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh Bazza?

 

(By Kodosan, from a message board 2007)

 

Yep, Kodo. Bazza

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A little constructive criticism never really hurt anyone. The fact is if you don't punish or criticize them when they are young, wrong, love is probably lacking in the relationship. Perhaps I should say respect, or honor, in the place of the word love, as the word seems to mean so many different things to different people today. I have lived with children similar to the ones you describe, unfortunately at least one parent was more interested in themselves than in the children. They wound up deceased, or in and out of rehab. Some of these children had mental deficiencies from the beginning, and the lack of needed parenting just added insult to their injuries. Seems we need to catch them early on, once they are in their teens the die has usually been cast. And wow do they ever learn the rules early, and bend and push them to see how far they can get. Fortunately for me I believe that we reap what we sow, and that most usually come around after tragedy strikes. Hopefully everyone survives to learn from their mistakes. Too many times that hasn't been the case in my experience. Thanks for elaborating on your situation, at first I thought uh oh, he is "off the chain". Not at all true however. With all the apathy and greed we seem to see in our society today, it is encouraging to see that a lot of people out there do care, and aren't afraid to give a damn and do something about it.
Bug
:duck

 

Trust, Love and Happiness are things we all are naturally born with, as you can see in your own new child Kodo. Hatred, Fear, Anger are all emotions that we can chose to “Learn” or are “Taught” by those around us. Humankind has made fantastic scientific leaps over the short time we have been the dominate creatures on this Planet. Nevertheless, as a Psych Major like myself you know that we have not made such leaps in our basic psyche. Oh, most intelligent people when gathered together will spout the “Words” of tolerance and understanding, and yet those same people when put under pressure or strain quickly revert to the intolerance or lack of trust that they have chosen to “Learn” or have been “Taught”.

Unfortunately, with the Internet we can vent and promulgate that intolerance and mistrust, as well as promoting trust and tolerance. Which we chose to do is up to us all as individuals. My choice (most of the time) is to promote the “Good” things we as Humans do, and I try my best to erase the “Bad” things we do.

A saying I always hold dear, “The more a person thinks they are right, the further from the Truth they are” Arrivedeci che

 

Sounds like our representatives in the government .. but oh so true.. so very true.

.. and yes.. I've raised the white flag on tolerance and understanding. My wall is up.. sad but true. The only problem with that quote is that we always make the choice to learn whether or not we are being taught or are trying to be taught something. You can't be taught if you chose not to learn. Pedantic..sorry.

 

Well after being nearly killed by a drunk driver.. some thing tend to fire you up a bit. I'm not an angry person at all.. I just get lit up when the possibility of my family being hurt. Like I said.. my wife was out on a walk.. these kids were speeding and the first thing on my mind was my wife and baby. My first intention was to find them.. then get the kids address and plates to report it to the police but then they started to get mouthy with me and so the rest is history. So I did have my intentions in the right order.. but I admit, my disgust and frantic disbelief at these kids got the better of me. But I consider it a small sacrifice because I can guarantee you that they won't do it again and the many parents with small children in this development have who to thank?..that's right.. me <----=|

 

I am 25 now, and reading your post I totally agree. Good rant.

There are kids here on my housing estate 6-7 running round unsupervised till like 10-11 at night, doing whatever they want too. Parents are too busy taking drugs, drinking, sleeping around etc.

The 10-15 year olds are drinking, smoking weed and taking Ecstacy, they stay out all night if they want, there is no control. The kids 10-15 know they cant go to prison till 15, so they rob houses, rob cars, attack people, abuse people, its commonplace here in the rougher parts of Manchester, UK.

The poorer council estates are geting worse and worse. Kids having kids, parents hitting each other in front of young eyes. Kids seeing mummy and daddy taking drugs. Kids seeing mummy kissing a different man every night. Its getting worse because we are letting people breed a youth who have no fears.

Jails a joke, the kids know it so even past 15 they have no care, TV, Playstation, Radio, Gym, 3 meals a day! Its a health centre with bars.

Ill admit about myself. I have been involved with a lot of crime as a youth. I do not want to go into the details however. You get sucked into it, its the way things are on these estates. Id say 8 out of 10 kids here turn to drink drugs and/or crime.

I was lucky enough to avoid prison till 17. Ive been in and out till a year and a half ago. Thats 7-8 years in, out, in, out. I wanted to get out of the cycle for the past 4 years but its hard trying to break it.

And my parents were good to me, none of my family does drugs, my mums a catholic, they all work. It was peer pressure etc.

One thing I can honestly say though, although I have done bad things I have never been rude to strangers etc. Especially adults when I was a teen. I would however kick off with an adult if one spoke down to me.

Anyway, Im away from all the naughtyness now forever (touch wood). And I am starting some education soon. Also I have a baby on the way, which I am going to put 101% into trying to help it not make my mistakes over again.

All I can say is maybee its not neciceraly the teens fault, maybee society has a major part to play in this?

 

Society has a big part it in.. absolutely.
Good luck on your journey .. I wish you the best

 

We are society, so I guess its up to us to start making a difference?
I will try harder from now on