2nd IDE HD with SATA adaptor not working...

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Huey P, Dec 11, 2004.

  1. Huey P

    Huey P Private E-2

    I'm booting from an IDE hd.
    I just put in a second hd on the other IDE channel.
    Everything worked fine.
    Now I'm trying to put the second hd on a SATA channel with an adaptor, so I can better arrange everything in my case.
    But now it won't recognize the hd in My Computer. When it boots up, it mentions something about a broken array, and I have the option to shut down, delete array, or ignore and boot normally.
    Also, I'd like to have my main hd on a SATA channel as well, but I can't get it to boot that way. I think I changed it to the right boot setting in the bios...
    Any suggestions?
    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Huey P

    Huey P Private E-2

    Also, now I think about it, is it really worth it to use SATA adaptors? Aside from taking up less space, that is. Is there much performance increase?
     
  3. ~Pyrate~

    ~Pyrate~ MajorGeek

    i have a SATA drive and while there is a slight performance increase in benchmarks ... I don't think you will notice a difference using your PC ... I could only tell you that your SATA settings are in the "integrated peripherals" menu in your BIOS ... each mobo is different so you would have to post that information
     
  4. Huey P

    Huey P Private E-2

    Whoops, forgot system specs.

    Windows XP SP2
    IT7-MAX2
    Western Digital 80gb (x2)
    Radeon 9500
    1024mb DDR333
     
  5. ASUS

    ASUS MajorGeek

    When using SATA HDD/sata mobo port, it will not be recognized till you have formated & loaded sata drivers, when loading windows press F6 for third party drivers.
    When installing sata hdd is best to disconnect any ide hdd's till the sata is up & running.

    You can use Western Digatal's "Data Lifeguard Tool's" (free download at web or comes with retail HDD) to format & partition, diagnosics too!
    Run it it will see your HDD before windows is installed.

    Remember F6 during windows install & have sata drivers on floppy.
    When using sata, jumpers are not used! Probably applies to ide using adaptor to sata??
    Check your bios settings for boot order, when using sata, for setup, windows & drivers install, CD is first then sata if sata is not option then scsi then floppy.
    Once windows is up and running then set boot to sata first.
     
  6. ~Pyrate~

    ~Pyrate~ MajorGeek

    are you saying you can't use a SATA as a secondary drive to an IDE boot disk?
     
  7. ASUS

    ASUS MajorGeek

    No I'm not saying that.
    If you have sata you should use it as your boot drive, it is faster.
    I have a couple of rigs running sata's but they all boot from the sata's
    I dont have any using adaptor's.

    I dont think that was the question, I never tryed to use ide as the boot with sata as storage, it must be possible? but I'm not sure.
    If I were to try it, I'd format the new sata using the manufactures utility, then make sure all drivers were loaded to the main ide hdd & set bios and HDD Jumper's accordingly.

    As far as Huey p problems after reading again, sounds like he moved his IDE boot drive to his SATA channel using an adaptor.
    To use the sata channel & to be able to boot from it, and his drive to be seen, he need's the "third party" SATA drivers.
    Can he add the drivers to the hdd, I'm not sure if he can without reloading the OS, if so he could try while connected to an ide channel.
    Or while connected to sata could try repair install.
    Then there is always the option of complete reinstall of the OS to the drive connected to sata header, still need to apply sata/third party drivers, press F6 when prompted during windows setup, and follow directions.


    And last thought, based on the errors that Huey posted his system think's he has a raid setup, does he ? if he doesent then he also has a configuration problem, possibly in his Bios setting's and or jumper settings.


    Keep in mind I'm not an expert, I'm only trying to help
    Caution should always be used when accepting advice from anyone even the expert's
     
  8. Huey P

    Huey P Private E-2

    Darn, it's not even working on the second IDE channel...

    Okay, the full story:
    I had two 80gb hds (F: (with Windows XP Pro), and C:), not raided. On both drives, I have numerous video projects that I edit with Premiere Pro 1.5. Then the F: drive died. I ran some diagnostics on it, and it was confirmed- the drive was corrupt. However,I was able to backup all the files I needed onto my friend's computer.
    Luckily, the failed drive was still under warranty. While I waited for my new drive to arrive, I borrowed another friend's drive (E:).
    But now that I'm back up with my new drive (also C:), it won't recognize my original C: drive. It doesn't seem to matter whether I set it up via IDE or SATA adaptor- the drive doesn't show up in My Computer.
    But it does show up in Disc Management-

    http://img71.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img71&image=hdcrap7nk.jpg

    Disc 0 (C:) is obviously my new drive, while Disc 1 (which used to be C: as well).
    But here's what my problem is- There's about 60gb of video on that old drive that I need, so I can't do any formatting or anything...
    What's the deal? The jumpers are all in place, I've checked and reconfigured them about a million hundred times...
    Any suggestions?
    Thanks in advance!
     
  9. Toke

    Toke MajorGeek

    I've encountered this problem in the past where there is a conflict in bios recognising HD even though it was ok previous...Slave it and ask as many friends to put it in there com.. it worked for me after several attempts .. good luck.
     
  10. Marty4016

    Marty4016 Private E-2

    If you used the disk in a different computer and then installed it in your current computer, it could be recognized as a foreign disk. If you go through Disk Management and right-click on the disk, does it give you the option to import the disk?
     
  11. Huey P

    Huey P Private E-2

    Thanks again for helping me out with this, everyone.

    Okay, when I right click either disc in Disc Management, it gives me the option to Convert to Dynamic Disc. When I r-click on the unallocated space of Disc 1 (the old C:), it gives me the option to create a new partition. (But I can't change the drive letter...)
     
  12. ~Pyrate~

    ~Pyrate~ MajorGeek

    i dont know if this helps but this is my config that works for me:

    IDE Channel 1: 80 GB HDD - Master
    250 GB HDD - slave
    IDE Channel 2: DVD/CDR Dr - single (shows as master in the BIOS)
    IDE Channel 3: SATA 80 GB HDD - single (shows as master in the BIOS, also the boot drive)

    there was also some settings in the "Integrated Periphrals":
    OnChip Serial ATA Mode - IDE
    OnChip Serial ATA - Enhanced Mode
    - Serial ATA 1 Mode - IDE-3 Master
    and in the "Advanced BIOS Features" Menu:
    Hard Disk Boot Priority - [press enter and set your SATA drive you want to boot from into the first position]
     
  13. Huey P

    Huey P Private E-2

    Okay, I still haven't got it yet.
    One thing I forgot to mention- with my old setup (before I got my replacement drive), the second drive (that isn't being recognized now) would always show up having about 140gb total space, when I'm know for a fact it's an 80gb.
    Could this have anything to do with it?

    I tried throwing the drive in my friend's computer, and it's the same thing- nothing in My Computer, but unallocated space in Disc Management.

    I also finally emailed Western Digital tech support.

    Anything else I could try? The deadline of the project that's on this possessed drive is coming up quick...
    Thanks again everyone.
     
  14. ASUS

    ASUS MajorGeek

    I mentioned this before, You can download Western Digital's Diagnostic Utility, Have you tryed That, It's also nice Utility to format & partition.
    It's Called: "Data Lifeguard Tool's"
    Here's Link:
    http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp?swid=1
     
  15. Huey P

    Huey P Private E-2

    Yeah, I ran the diagnostic... it passed with no errors.
    Also tried going into the bios and checking out the "Integrated Peripherals" settings... I'm not sure what those do, but I changed switched some likely settings to no avail.
     
  16. ~Pyrate~

    ~Pyrate~ MajorGeek

    do you have the IC7 or IS7? im thinking it's an Abit cause I never heard of any other company using "max" ... if it's the IC7 we have the same BIOS and my settings should work for you ... I would put them back at the defaults by selecting "fail safe defaults" in the main menu .. then setting them the same way i did
     

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