A Little too hot?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Bobomoomin, Nov 13, 2005.

  1. Bobomoomin

    Bobomoomin Specialist

    Hey, i've got AMD sempron 2500+ and temp idols at around 40 degrees and 55 under load. I know these are pretty high but would u say too high? Concidering i have 2 case fans one of which is 120mm and the other 80mm, a dual fanned psu and standard cpu fan which came with processor.
     
  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    The airflow from each fan is in which direction and where are the fans located in the case?

    Are all your cables nice and neat and not obscuring airflow from any fans? ( a neat and tidy case does aid airflow and reduce temps by a few deg's )

    Where in the room is your PC located eg. is it inside a desk space in a corner etc

    What are the ambient temps in your room? ( being its getting chilly in the UK now, central heating gets switched on, thus increasing the temps of your PC )
     
  3. Bobomoomin

    Bobomoomin Specialist

    Well all the fans are going in the right direction and the wires arn;t all that neat, but they are hardly obstrucking the fans. The comps right in the middle on the room, and the 2 systems fans are places one at the back and one on the side.
     
  4. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    by right direction can you elaborate a little?

    The cables dont have to obstruct the fans they can be near the middle of the case but still be blocking airflow around the case, ideal airflow is to have a front case fan pulling air in with the PSU and back case fan expelling air out the back,

    example of good cable management http://www.modfatha.com/ma_cable_managment.html
     
  5. Bobomoomin

    Bobomoomin Specialist

    Ahhh, I think I've found out my problem, If i have 2 case fans, one at the back and one at the side would it be best to have one sucking air in and one blowing out?? If so which one should do what? Bearing in mind the fan at the back is only about 6 inches from the wall.
     
  6. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    back fan I would have expelling air out back just like the PSU fan, the side fan... dunno why I never been a fan ( pardon pun ) of them... but I would have it pushing air onto the CPU heatsink.. other wise you'd need to check the direction of the Heatsink fan to see it was same direction as the side fan, otherwise they would be in competition with each other.
     
  7. Bobomoomin

    Bobomoomin Specialist

    Ohh ok thanks!
     
  8. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Really, that is well within safe operating specs.
     
  9. Bobomoomin

    Bobomoomin Specialist

    Well what would u say the max temps should be before things start to get risky?
     
  10. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Idle at 60c would worry me, seeing how temps generally jump 10c under load.

    50-55 idle would still be kind of high, but still safe.
     
  11. Bobomoomin

    Bobomoomin Specialist

    Ok then cheers
     
  12. Ichabod

    Ichabod Private E-2

    If you take a look at the AMD site you will see that they recommend no front fan. I've tried it with and without and don't see much difference. One of my rigs runnin AMD XP's started running a little warm so I removed the heat sink and lapped the base. When I started the lapping I could tell that the original surface was not completely flat. Lapping and some Arctic Silver helped some, but in my opinion the supplied heat sink is a wimp and the fan makes way too much noise. My other computer with the faster cpu has a great big Thermalright heat sink and it runs at least five degrees cooler.

    Ichabod
     
  13. Rob M.

    Rob M. First Sergeant

    40C at idle is good. But 55C under load is kind of high, though it's well within AMD's limits (probably 85C, but check that with AMD if you're getting anywhere near those temperatures.)

    A 15C differential between idle and full load temps suggests to me that the thermal resistance in your CPU cooling system is higher than it needs to be. That could be caused by a number of factors, e.g., a heatsink that isn't quite large enough, a thermal interface between CPU die and heatsink that isn't quite right, or a heatsink material that isn't conductive enough.

    Ichabod's suggestion may therefore be quite relevant. Lapping the base of the heatsink and using a premium thermal grease will reduce the thermal resistance of the interface -- if properly done. A copper core in the heatsink (or an all-copper heatsink) will also help to reduce thermal resistance. Improving airflow in the case and through the heatsink may be a cheaper solution, but does involve some guesswork to get it right. See AMD's paper on the topic here.

    AMD has a strong preference for thermal pads. They view thermal greases as not particularly reliable -- probably because it's much easier to install a thermal grease improperly. You may invalidate AMD's warranty if you use products not approved by AMD.
     

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