Advisable To Use This Drive?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Nexus_, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. Nexus_

    Nexus_ Staff Sergeant

    Ok so i am having a bit of an issue

    Got ''new drive'' but already had a bit of issues
    kept getting errors and could not format

    no difference if using as MBR OR GPT
    Whatever i pick i get an error for both options'' Data error ( cyclic redundancy check)''

    After mounting another one of my hard drives and then mounting the HGST back i was able to format

    everything seems to checkout but it seems to get quite hot ( 52-55 C while transferring data)

    the change from 31C to 55C is only after just 1 hr of transfer files too..
     

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  2. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Hard to tell at this point if the drive is defective or not. I recommend you run WinDFT and if you get any errors, return the drive. It would be hard for WD to deny problems when their own utility detects them.

    55°C is pretty warm but not "hot". But transferring lots of data is pretty demanding too. So its temperature during normal use would be good to know.

    But note too that drives need cooling. So look at your case cooling and make sure you have good cable management. If your case supports a fan for the drives, consider putting one in.
     
  3. Nexus_

    Nexus_ Staff Sergeant

    Well the screenshot i posted with the 31C was just barely when i inserted the drive , it almost doubled in temperature just after 1~ hr of transferring data.

    The hard drive seems to idle around 48-50C which is 10c+ of what my other internal hard drives idle . I have another variant of the HGST HD in 2TB but that one idles around 41--42C and does not even reach 50C when transferring data.

    Yesterday when i tried transferring data on the hard drive ( referenced on initial post ) for over 3 hrs the temperatures went to 63C and it did not seem like it was getting any cooler. Please keep in mind that i have other hard drives ( 2 more) on the desktop and they do not get this hot ever.

    I had a program running that checks my temperatures and that as well as crystal disk info kept giving me alerts about it being too hot.
    Eventually the computer started freezing and locking up so i decided to shut it down and take off the hard drive.

    I have about 3 120mm fans on the case which were always enough for what i have inside. The case i have is just a micro atx case so i can't really add bigger or more fans even if i wanted to ( not that i would want to anyways because its only this hard drive giving me heat issues).
     
  4. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Return the drive.
     
  5. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    An hour of heavy use is a very long time. Electromechanical devices can go from cool to hot in just a few minutes. A CPU can go from cool to overheated in just a few clock cycles - and they run at 3 billion+ clock cycles per second!

    The fact you have at least 3 drives in this case tells me your case may be crowded with devices and their necessary power and data cable - all of which impact desired air flow. The placement of these drives and where they are in relation to the cool air flow matters too. Heat rises. If these 3 drives are stacked, the middle and top drive could be suffering unless there is lots of cool air blowing through and over them.
    I don't understand why this seems like a point to you. If you drive your car at 80MPH for 2 hours, that is going to tax the cooling system. Would you expect it to cool down if you keep driving it at 80MPH for another hour?

    Don't forget your ambient (room) temperature plays a major roll in computer cooling too.

    The problem with small cases (particularly true with notebook cases) is you can pack the power of a full size PC in there, but not the cooling.

    Now 3 x 120mm fans sounds plenty good too me, but transferring massive amounts of data involves a lot of CPU and RAM utilization too. Perhaps for these tasks, you need to open the case and blast a desk fan in there.

    Proving my point. Your other components apparently were reaching thermal protection thresholds too. What temp was your CPU hitting? With this new bit of information, I am not sure your drive is faulty at all!

    One more thing. How are your fans configured? Typically you want front-to-back air flow through the case with front fans drawing cool air in, and rear fans exhausting heated air out. I have found that side panel fans actually disrupt that desired front-to-back flow with some cases. If you have a blow hole (top mounted) fan, it should exhaust heated air out.
     
  6. Nexus_

    Nexus_ Staff Sergeant

    My cpu is hitting temperatures of 45-48C which i think i pretty decent considering its one of the first i5 cpus with an FCLGA1156 socket

    I mounted a hard drive another 3rd hard drive to take the place of the HGST hard drive and that hard drive ( an old seagte drive from like 2009) is only hitting temperatures of 42C while transferring ( its also a 7200 rpm drive) and this is with my other drives on the desktop.

    I am aware the room temperature affects the temperatures inside of my pc but for the most part if my room temperature is 85F or less i can keep it the internals below or at 50C.

    I have a side and front fan pulling air from outside and a rear fan pushing all the hot air back outside.

    Tried another pc with better cooling and now the drive is not being read anymore... its probably best to just return it at this point

    By the way i know that you used the 80MPH car reference as an analogy but this speed is ''normal'' highway speed in western USA. I don't see many folks driving around california, nevada or arizona below 80MPH unless there is heavy traffic at which point they drive at the posted speed limit hehe..
     
  7. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Those are pretty decent temps but it has nothing to do with the socket. It more about the loads, ambient (room) temps, case and CPU cooling.
    :eek: That's pretty hot. Depending on who's saying it and the time of year, normal room temperatures are considered to be between 65 and 75°F.
    I recommend you disconnect power to the side panel fan and see what happens. As I said above, I have seen them disrupt the desired front-to-back air flow in some cases. The exceptions have been when those side panel fans fire directly into a tube that channels the fan's air directly onto the CPU or graphics card. If you disconnect and it does not help, connect power again. An easy experiment.

    LOL with the 80MPH comment. I note my state (Nebraska) just raised the limit to 80MPH on some sections of I80. So for sure, everyone will do 85+.
     

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