AV'S The lesser of two evils

Discussion in 'Software' started by Can't come up with any, Sep 13, 2003.

  1. Hi folks,

    I was wondering which anti-virus would be better between Norton and McAfee? My current AV has expired(Norton) so I'm on the market for another one. I was thinkin of using AVG or Anti-Virus Personal Edition, but they didn't score all that well, http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=59&mnu=59 compared to other AV's. So that's about it. Any imput would be great, especially pros and cons. :cool:
     
  2. Maxwell

    Maxwell Folgers

    If you were happy with Norton and it didn't foul your machine then go with that.

    Used to use McAfee but found it was causing problems (forgotten why) jumped ship years ago to Norton and have been using it ever since.
     
  3. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    To be honest I still using McAfee V7


    but I guess you takes your chance when choosing AV programs..... best advice is whichever you choose is to keep the Virus Defintitions upto date.


    plus run a spyware program like Ad Aware 6 to remove those aswell.
     
  4. billH

    billH Master Sergeant

    I don't know the level of security you need, but I've had good luck with avast and it tests better than AVG on that site. I like the frequency of the automatic VDatabase (like at least three or more times a week) and the fact that it caught both recent worms immediately. Since I've been using it they've sent me two program updates also. If you need a stiffer level of protection than the free Home Edition then there's a "Pro" version available. I also like their fast response to email questions (once a tech emailed me back while he was on vacation and out of the office. That's some good service compared to Macaffee whom I used to use.) However, if Norton is working for you . . . well, if it ain't fixed, don't break it -- or something like that:)
     
  5. Thanks guys,

    I was thinking of using avast, but the free version is only good for 90 days. Is McAfee worth a look or is Norton, tests show that McAfee did a better job. :confused:
     
  6. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I prefer Panda.


    It caught two viruses that an updated Norton didnt even detect.

    Plus it updates itself 7 days a week.



    Symantec releases auto updates only once a week, unless a major virus hits.

    I haven't used Mcafee since Windows 95.

    EDIT: And it was horrible back then.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 13, 2003
  7. billH

    billH Master Sergeant

    Interesting. My copy of avast home is free forever on program updates and you don't start to pay for VDatabase updates for a year. Go figure:)
     
  8. Loco

    Loco Private E-2

    when did his happen, was it recent. Starting to doubt the quality of norton.
     
  9. Vlad the Impaler

    Vlad the Impaler F.K.A. Immaculate


    can't you just uninstall Norton, and reinstall to renew free updates?
     
  10. da chicken

    da chicken MajorGeek

    Installing a second AV program often makes viruses just jump up all over the place. IMO, this is either intentional false positives or the new AV program detecting the old one's quarantine.

    I've used Norton ever since Win95, when I finally ditched McAfee. At the moment, I've got Symantec Corporate AV, which was provided to me through my school's site liscence. SCAV's real-time protection doesn't seem to be as much of a resource hog compared to Norton, probably because corporations are less forgiving than home users.

    As for updates, well, if you REALLY want daily norton updates you can always download the Intelligent Updater files. Those are released every either daily of every three days, IIRC.

    I'm not paranoid about viruses, though. Pick an AV that works for you and go with it. As long as you aren't really dumb about email attachments and file downloads, you should be fine. IMO, a firewall is a much more important defense, since worms and script kiddies are a fairly constant threat. A normal virus is not as appealing as hacking or worming. I mean, if you're going to design a malicious program, you might as well find some way to benefit from it.

    On occasion, I double check my system with an online scanner such as http://housecall.antivirus.com/, but it has never found anything.
     
  11. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    It was NAV 2003. Happened a month or two ago.


    Nav 2003 has been the only version to ever let me down.


    Haven't tried 2004
     
  12. Thanks for all the replies folks,
    I also use on-line scanners,(Norton even offers such a service) Now, I'm wondering about real-time monitoring, will Avast catch a virus on the spot, or will it only see it when I scan my system? Still haven't got any info about BiDefender,guess it isn't as popular as others. Oh well, to each there own. ;)
     
  13. Loco

    Loco Private E-2

    Now thats disappointing :(

    As far as avast goes it does have real time monitoring or so it says but I don't know what to think anymore. Anyway I have a system running Norton 2003 and one running Avast. So far both have done a great job.
     
  14. fleppen

    fleppen Gumshoe

    sssshhh.... noone's supposed to know that ;)
     
  15. Just realised something, my subscription has expired, but doesn't that just mean that NA won't get updates on its own. In other words, I can get the updates manualy, right? :confused:

    Guess I have to wait until Norton updates its virus definitions, so I can try and download them.
     
  16. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    You can update definitions, but you cannot update the program itself.
     
  17. Vlad the Impaler

    Vlad the Impaler F.K.A. Immaculate

    the only reason I know is because after I formatted my comp, Norton renewed itself. I've never had Norton on the comp long enough for it to expire, before I did a reformat!
     
  18. Vlad the Impaler

    Vlad the Impaler F.K.A. Immaculate

    I paid 50 dollars for Norton Systemworks and they expect me to pay more money after a year? Ridiculous. Highway robbery. I didn't even know this when I bought the Norton software. Do they tell you on the box you have to pay later a year? I doubt it. SO I ain't paying.
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2003
  19. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Actually I bet they do.

    They tell you that you get a free year subscription, which indicates, after a year, it aint free, LOL.
     
  20. Vlad the Impaler

    Vlad the Impaler F.K.A. Immaculate


    it's a trap...
     
  21. da chicken

    da chicken MajorGeek

     

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  22. Vlad the Impaler

    Vlad the Impaler F.K.A. Immaculate

    who the hell is that?
     
  23. da chicken

    da chicken MajorGeek

    :eek: How can you be a geek and not know all the characters from Star Wars?!

    It's Admiral Ackbar, commander of the Rebel fleet, and the guy who restates the obvious when he cries "It's a trap!" after being told his fleet is flanked by the Death Star II (with shields raised) on one side, and the majority of the Imperial Navy on the other.
     


  24. Meaning???

    As long as my virus defenitions are up to date, I'm o.k. Right?
     
  25. Maxwell

    Maxwell Folgers

    No, not 100%. The purpose of an engine update are to fix bugs (alright, features) in the software and to cater for new or unique infection methods.
     
  26. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    When you don't/cant update the program, you may 'detect' the virus, but not be able to clean it or avoid infection.
     
  27. Hi guys,
    I'm running Norton 2002, I'm guessing NA found all the possible bugs and applied the necessary fixes already. :)
     
  28. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Yeah ok ;)

    I wouldn't trust it :p
     
  29. abern01

    abern01 Private First Class

    Actually, I just had to reformat my hard drive and after re-installing Norton, it asked me to register (again) and said it's good for a year! And this isn't a new version either.
    I didn't intentionally do this to engage in illegal activities, but hey, it's good for another year.
    I've been using Norton for years, I use it on XP and '98, never had a problem and my teenage daughter is always surfing and downloading all kinds of crap.
    For what its worth, the October issue of Maximum PC rated NAV 2003 Pro as the best AV program.

    Just my 2 cents!:)
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2003
  30. Hi everybody,
    Just downloaded Avast 4.1 home edition.
    Don't know if it's a keeper.
    Tried an on-line test and out of 4 viruses, it only detected 1 :(

    http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

    Probably going to dish out the money for Norton, again.
     
  31. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Why?

    Try Panda, you can download a trial.


    See how it fares.
     
  32. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    If you are talking about this test, it isnt exactly a great indicator of how good an AV is.


    The page indicates that the AV should be able to at least pick up the .com version of the test.


    --Keep in mind that AV runs off of what it knows as a virus. This is a test, not a real one.


    http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm


    BTW, Panda picked up all 4.
     

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