building a desktop

hey i am bulding a desktop. I wanted to make this desktop for gaming and video editing and i wanted it to last. I started looking at motherboards and went to newegg. i narrowed it down to the ones in the link below. I am looking to make one that uses DDR3, AMD Phenom II X6 1090T(so AM3 socket), has hdmi outputs, and a good video chipset. If you find any other good motherboards at other sites let me know. Also if you have the time, make a list of all the things that i would need with hyperlinks if money was no object, and if money was. basically build your ideal desktop on a budget and one without limits. Thanks! this should be fun.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ption=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

 

Whats your ideal budget? How much do you want to spend?

 

let's say there is no budget but if there had to be $2,000

 

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4ghz $184
asus Crosshair IV Formula mobo $230
Geil (4x2) DDR3 2000 $278
or
Mushkin (2x4) DDR3 1333 $280 (buy another two get 16 gig of ram)
5870 $400+
or
asus 5870 eyefinity x6 displays $550
seasonic 750w psu $170
bluray/dvd/cd burner $160
WD Velociraptor 600GB $280
corsair H50 cpu cooler $ 80
Corsair 800D Case $280

$2062 - $2214

 

If you just want to use a 6 core processor. The difference between the 1055T & 1090T is not enough to notice, except for the $100 difference in price.
I have become partial to the Gigabyte Motherboards, they have a great restore utility. You can leave unallocated space on your HDD or use a different HDD as unallocated, load OS, Updates and install all your programs you need, then use the utility to back up everything, So if you ever have too restore it's allo there for you. Big time saver

 

Here is a configuration that I've been look at for awhile.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128438 $148

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851 $200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211409 $106 ea set of 2x2GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319 $60 ea I'd run in RAID

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127501 $350

Or if you want to run 2 GPU's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150490 $393 ea


$925 if you go with the 470 Video Card or $1360 with 2 - 5870 Cards

Get you atleast a 800w PSU and Case of your likings, and which ever DVD burners you like, which are not figured into this price, but will add probably another lets say $400. Making the total from $1400 - $1700

 

I just checked for the 6 core amd cpus yesterday, I didn't see them anywhere. Perhaps I didn't look hard enough.

 

I wouldn't put a nVidia GPU on an AMD chipset, I don't know what kind of performance loss there would be, but it'd be noticable :-D

This is my ideal setup:

http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view $300 left for any peripherals & drives, also I already made sure the RAM was on the supported list for the mobo

Hope you can link baskets lol

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@ 2-Bit-Geek, I think you mean ATI chipset.

Yes this is an ATI board and 2 - 5870 would definitely be the best way to go.

I have a an ATI chipset motherboard now and a Nvidia GTX 470 and it's working perfectly. This GPU was just 1 month old when my last board died and I didn't have the money to buy a new one + the board. So I tried it, it worked and has been doind a good job for 2 month's now, it even scored a 19853 on 3D Mark 06 benchmark with my configuration and that's with just a dual core processor and 3 GB of ram.

I will say that by all means if he can afford it, I'd go with the 2 - 5870

 

I like 2-Bit-Geeks shopping card for this rig. I would add another set of Ram if you could afford too.

 

I did mean AMD, they seem to take ownership of it on their site: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_14603,00.html

Actually I used to have a nVidia 9800GTX+ on an old AMD 770 chipset & it did work, but it wasn't anywhere near as good as it should have been. I guess some people are lucky in that way

It is amazing what you yanks can get for your dollar lol FYI though that case I put in the basket, I own it & it's... epic :-D

I think 4GB is enough these days, setting it up correctly is more important than how many GB's of it you have IMO. I was also leaving spare cash for a better CPU cooler & pehipherals, I fogot that when I was building my rig & had to make do with a prehistoric 17in CRT moniter, learn from me I beg of you lmao

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I know you said you wanted the 6 core AMD, but Intel is where it's at, the i7 920 effectively has 8 cores, is cheaper, and OC's better, so you do the maths!

Anyway, my Intel contribution

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6505/reco2.png


Did someone say, money no object? :-D:-D:-D

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9175/reco3.png


That is just about, THE BEST pc money can buy, 12 cores, and 4 monster GPU's, a folders dream.

Mind you, it could probably accelerate global warming all by itself!

 

Intels run hot & I mean like 70C+,the AMD starts off with a higher clock & will overclock to 4GHZ with some work & $20 for 6 cores over 4, that's a no brainer surely :-D

BTW Burrell, your builds wouldn't work & the first would go over budget getting it to work. You are missing HDD/s & a case, (Not that i'm saying all PC's have to have cases, but it's generally the way they are setup ). & 2 480's in SLI, are you mad? You'd melt a hole in the sun with that kind of heat lmao

I can't believe I didn't do a dream setup :***

Well here it is: http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view

This thing will beast any game for the next few years I imagine & it has all the peripherals I already have or want :-D

You certainly couldn't build a PC much more expensive, unless you picked Intel/nVidia parts, but that'd be silly as the Overclocked 5970 in quad crossfire is far better than any nVidia card & it runs far cooler. AMD vs Intel, AMD may always be 1 step behind Intel, but I like vaule as well as performance & AMD/ATI are my choice becuase they offer just that.

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2-Bit-Geek, Thanks for the web link you put on here. I will try to get me an ATI GPU that is equal to my GTX 470 and try it out to see the difference I can get with it, I also went a head an ordered me the AMD 1055T, to up grade from my AMD 6000+ 3.1 GHz dual core. I had a $100 Paypal gift certificate. so and with the $25 off with Bill Me Later it only cost me $75.
Be nice to sell the GTX 470

 

An i7 920 is cheaper, has can run MORE threads, and in no doubt overclocks MUCH better, ask anyone with any hardware experience, Intel CPU's OC better than AMD's, FACT. now that is a no brainer.

My builds DO work, i am sure the OP is capabable of chosing his own HDD and case, and he said that money should not be a limiting factor, so i gave him some options.

Yes, the cards may run hotter, but unless you have a cardboard box for a case, then you will be fine under any amount of load.

I don't either, your link doesn't work.

Oh because a 4gb 5970 doesnt cost $1000?

Rubbish, and here's the proof, infact, the 480's demolish the 5970 in just about all of the tests![/QUOTE]

 

I agree with Burrell, i run an intel i7 950 with 2X GTX470s and the performance is mind blowing.

The PC Burrell put together is a real gem just one problem, getting hold of a GTX480 is like searching for dogs eggs, they are almost impossible to find.

this is my setup and it can handle anything i throw at it, it is all stock but the OCing possibilities are almost unlimited.

 

@Bill, they seem to be available on Newegg.

I know they are available in the UK, maybe NVidia just don't like you Belgians!

 

Admittedly i was looking in the first weeks of release and my PC guy said he just could not get any for at least three months so i ordered the two 470s and having looked at all the reviews there is not enough of a difference between the 470 and the 480 to warrant the huge difference in price.

I have to be honest that now i have the 470s in sli the performance is mind blowing.

 

THANK YOU for all your help so far guys!! i was looking over some and i was kinda thinking i would get some ideas and piece to gether one slowly and let you guys put in your thoughts. Ok so far the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4ghz processor seems like a nice processor. Especially for it's price. I enjoy looking at all as if price was not to limit anything and then consider costs last and think if i really want something.

I think I am going to go with the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4ghz processor for $184 and the asus Crosshair IV Formula mobo was put with it by theefool(thanks for your post) I think i will go with that mother board.

(I was also considering the GIGABYTE GA-890XA-UD3 AM3 AMD 790X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD because it is cheaper but thats just it maybe it is cheaper or does not have as much too it but i would like your thoughts on this.)

If any1 thinks i should choose a different mother board or really thinks i shouldn't get this proccessor please post your thoughts. Having said that i think i will look at RAM next.

 

But I would rather have the "bang for your buck" ratio shifted over to the buck, Intel will never have a reasonably priced top end CPU. AMD have a far better pricing structure, if i'd gone down the Intel/nVidia route I'd have a significantly worse PC right now due to the silly pricing of both companies.

I was saying those builds wouldn't work because they had vital hardware missing, when sombody ask's me to suggest a build I try to include everything, but if they wish to change anything that's up to them as long as their alternative is still compatible.

They run between 50C-90C+, I just don't think that's acceptable. My 4870 1GB was one of ATI's hotter crads at the time & mine never gets above 50C.

I've attached some screen shots.

I was actually referring to the total cost of my dream build in newegg's basket.

I never take benchmarks on 3DMark06 or Vantage as the real world performance of a given componant as it doesn't apply realistic load. Gameing performance is just that, real world load on all componants. Plus if I wanted to find out which GPU performed best on a given game it'd be Crysis DX10 set to setting simialr to my moniter & I'm sure nobody cares about Crysis running at 3840x2400 if they only have a 1280x1024 max res moniter.

Also comparing a 5970 to 2 480's isn't really a fair comparison, as is comparing a 5970 to 2 5870's, they are generally better. When nVidia come out with a dual GPU card then I think that'd be more fair. Finally I wasn't talking about the generic 5970 2GB, I was talking about the Sapphire Toxic 5970 4GB which was in the link: http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?leg=&psn=000101&pid=340

Two of those in quadfire should be the fastest, though this review only shows 1 of every card: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/05/11/sapphire/6

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/05/11/sapphire/9

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Shame it's not your pc.

I will eat my left tes****e if thats true.

Do you want some gaming benchmarks too?

When did i do that?

what has this got to do with anything?

4 GTX 480 would beat them hands down, just got it got 8gb, doesn't mean its the dogs ********.

The average jo who buys his GPU from PC world makes decisions like that.

Anyway, back to the OP:-D

what you got there looks good, i'd say go for it!

 

Thanks on the couple choices on my list. I haven't built an amd computer since my old 3200+ from way back.

Though, I'll be building one for my Mom soon. I'll post it here, also asking for help. :-D

 

Well, I wanted to see that (errr not really).

Anyway, I'm running at 54°C on my 5870. So so close. :-D

 

That can't be at load, surely?

 

So does anyone have an idea of what is good for ram to put in this? I will be using the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4ghz processor on the asus Crosshair IV Formula mobo.

I took a look and found these (http://www.google.com/products/cata...lTP_IGZW-MrbqlDE&sa=title&ved=0CAoQ8wIwATgA#p) I don't know if these are not a good brand or if i need four but i was hoping to get two for now and get two a little later. Let me know and if a different brand is better let me know.

 

My GTX 470 is running at 28C under load , did I for get to mention it is water blocked.
I know no comparision

 

Water blocked is difficult to compare.

My twin GTX470s are running at 82c under heavy load and my i7 CPU is pegged at 80% on folding and is 84c.

 

Not sure if you would need that much ram, 2x2gb stick should be enough. I'm also partial to Adata and Kingston, I've use OCZ before and after 6 month's it went out and I played hell getting them to RMA. Kingston wen out once on me after 2 yrs and they not only Replaced it but with higher speed than I sent in.

I've seen where you choose the AMD 965 CPU not a bad choose, make sure the one you order comes with Heatsink and Fan, some of these don't include it.

 

I know BillMCC66, but i couldn't resist, so I ran my under max load to see what I was getting

 

I am bulding this for video editing and gaming mainly. I will most likely be using sony vegas and photoshop a lot and playing games online like SAMP(san andreas multiplayer) or my bro may be playing runescape so as far as the gaming goes it probably won't be too serious. but i like to multi-task and will probably have vegas, photoshop, and things like youtube upo at the same time. Having said that, are 2gb sticks of RAM still going to be enough do you think? so it would be 8gb total when i fill all four slots.

 

hey man i got the dell xps 8100 and he thing flies got the i 7 and a amd 1 gig vid card has no prob playin vid games if u want to spend the money

 

i wanted to build my own so i can save money rather then personalizing one that is already built. so can anyone else help me?

 

i went to build my own as well but the prices of all the stuff that is in my comp cost less than building it my self they have a really good deal on them thats why i mentioned it if you want to build your own for cheap money you could get the pentium i5 processor with the nvidia gforce vid card you probaly going to need at least four gigs of ram to play the games and at least a 1gig vidcard

 

I really like this build so far but i still need add on suggestions. Please help! thanks!

 

your definately going to need at least direct x9 supposadly your gona need dx 10 to play the new starcraft. other than that its all here nor there as far as gaming goes unless your gona get the 3d monitor but its big bucks

 

thats a downlaod. I am looking for help with the actual physical building of it as in parts and stuff. But thanks i'll keep it in mind when i get that far.