Building a new computer, a lot of questions. (1000-1300€)

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by iZver, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. iZver

    iZver Private E-2

    Hello!

    I'm building a new computer. Here's what I am thinking off right now.

    Approximate Purchase Date: soon

    Budget Range: 1000-1300

    System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, streaming, game recording, video processing

    Parts Not Required: keyboard mouse screen

    Preferred Website(s) for Parts: mimovrste.si enaa.si sestavi.si
    (Sites are in slovenian, so don't worry if you cant use them)

    Country: slovenia

    Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Don't know which is better right now. Thats why I'm asking

    Overclocking: no

    SLI or Crossfire: maybe

    Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 -- maybe i'll upgrade at one time

    Here's what I thought off so far:

    Total: 1243.14€

    I'm hoping you can give me some advice, because I am certain I can make my system better with the budget I have.

    -The computer will be used mainly for gaming and game recording/streaming. The games are the like off Guild wars2 and minecraft.

    -I want the computer to last me as long as possible. I was considering going with SLI/Crossfire, but I think a single better graphics card is better.

    -Also, I have considered liquid cooling, but since I wont be overclocking I dont think that will be necessary. HOWEVER I will be buying an aftermarket cpu cooler to make my CPU last longer.

    -As you can see there is a 60GB SSD drive, which should be plenty for running windows and a couple of games.

    -Also, Is 8gb ram enough or should I got with 16gb?

    -Is AMD+Intel cpu working fine? Aren't intel+nvidea playing along better?

    Thanks for all your help! Cheers!
     
  2. gman863

    gman863 MajorGeek

    It looks like a decent build, except for the hard drive.

    WD Green drives are not that reliable. I'd spend a little extra and go for the Western Digital Black series - you'll get better performance and (based on both my personal experience and user reviews) a more durable drive that has a lower chance of crashing.

    Hope this helps. :)
     
  3. iZver

    iZver Private E-2

    Hey!

    I have revised the build a little. Didn't need such a high end mobo because I wont overclock. Also the CPU is overkill. With the cahs saved, I changed my HDD's and the case:


    (bold is changed)

    What about the GPU? Is it fine?

    Also, I am considering buying an aftermarket CPU cooler, to make the CPU last longer. Do you think it is necessary?

    Is the mobo bad?
    This is a cheap alternative:
    Asrock Z77 PRO, VGA, LGA1155 120,20 €
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2012
  4. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    The fact a cooler is aftermarket or not has NOTHING to do with the CPU lasting longer. In spite of what aftermarket cooler makers would like us to believe, OEM supplied coolers are excellent coolers! If the few degrees you might get from an after market cooler matters that much to the hardware, your case failed to provide adequate cooling and you need to be looking at increasing air flow to move the heat "out". It is not important to get the absolute coolest temperature possible (that's only for bragging rights). It is only important to keep your CPU in it's "normal operating range".

    Also, you may not be aware, and for many enthusiasts it is not a concern, but it is important all readers understand that both Intel and AMD warranty their “retail” boxed versions of their CPUs that come with supplied heatsink fan assemblies as “a unit". Consequently, both Intel and AMD require the use of the supplied coolers with their CPUs and using any alternative cooling solution violates the terms of the CPU warranties. Note this IS stated in the CPU warranty booklets that come with each CPU, or can be viewed online at Intel and AMD. While Intel talks about using the CPU and OEM HSF as "a unit", AMD is quite clear:

    "This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith."

    Neither Intel nor AMD want to replace a CPU because their OEM fan failed. But ONLY Intel and AMD will! OEM coolers are warrantied for 3 years, most aftermarket for just 1. Plus, motherboard designers purposely position heat sensitive and generating devices around the CPU socket so they can take advantage of the "expected" OEM cooler. Sadly, too many aftermarket cooler users (especially new water users) fail to address the cooling requirements of the regulators, chipset, and other nearby motherboard components :(. This can, and often does result in motherboard instability, or premature failures.
     
  5. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I forgot to add and 10 minutes has passed so I cannot edit my post above:

    I don't see an operating system listed. A common mistake is some users assume they can use their old Windows license on a new computer. Understand only a "boxed" full Retail license can be transferred to a new computer (or upgraded motherboard). It is illegal to use an OEM license that came with or was purchased for one computer on another computer. A disk “branded” with a computer maker’s brand name, or is labeled with “OEM/System Builder”, “Upgrade”, “Academic Edition”, or "For Distribution with a new PC only", is not transferable to a new PC (or upgraded motherboard) under any circumstances. These OEM licenses are inextricably tied to the "original equipment". So if that is the case, I recommend 64-bit Windows 7 or one of the many free Linux alternatives. Just ensure it is 64-bit since you have selected at least 8Gb of RAM (and I think 8 is the sweet spot for Windows 7 - more provides minimal, if any performance gains for the money.
     
  6. iZver

    iZver Private E-2

    @Digareti
    Thanks for your reply!

    I was indeed not aware of aftermarket cooler warranty nullification. You have cleared this, and I will definitely stick with stock cooling now, considering I'm getting an expensive and well ventilated case.

    And about the OS, I'm using windows that is licenced for more computers, my whole company uses only one serial key.
     
  7. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    When choosing an SSD, I must recommend that it has an Intel Sandforce controller regardless of brand.

    I'm a big fan of OCZ myself.

    Also, I run a 64-bit version of W7 and have 4 games installed on a 120 GB Vertex 3, and 34 GB free space left. Other data (pics, docs,music) are on my old HDD, 500GB Seagate.
     
  8. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    That's fine, as long as it covers your computer too.
     

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