Campers and Hunters - Need Advice

Scenario: Two woman, going camping for 2 weeks. Road only goes so far and they have to pack it in. It's a 45 minute hike into the cabin. They do not want to bring 4 wheelers, so they have to take supplies in by foot. Supplies consist of clothing, sleeping bags, food, and 4cases + 4cases of fluid. Have considered pulling wagons.

Question: Is there a better way of doing this so they do not have to make more than 2 trips back to van?

Be back tomorrow morning for answers.

 

LOL

What you eat???
snakes, possum, and ants

I did the same while in the Marines
heck they were not so mean to us

they actually gave us 3 MRE's and a knife

I suggest you take some friends with you to help you hump the stuff up there then
have them hike back empty

 

How about a Jeep?

 

Yes, you need to use optimum packing, minimise to what you really need, distribute the packed load effciently and correctly so that your body-frame has minimal stress, etc. Remember a woman body-frame has a lower centre of gravity than a man's.

Here are some advise web sites:

http://www.getoutdoors.com/go/golearn/60
http://www.interlocken.org/xrds/rak_CE.pdf
http://www.rockandpaddle.com/HIKING.htm

Failing this, ask someone else to assist carrying. I'm sure that there are many willing to assist two young damsels.

PS leave your parrot and other pirate accessories at home

 

If I'm reading the post correctly, y'all on the wrong track! This is a reasoning problem.

Think logic, cyberetics and mathematics - it aint that hard, actually.

 

a 45 minute hike isn't that bad. I have had worse, and then once its over it won't seem so bad, so I would recommend doing the two trips.

 

Hmm, do you mean the old fox, chicken and corn conumdrum of how a farmer can get all three across a river taking only one item at a time without a) the fox eating the chicken and b) the chicken eating the corn?

or should the two pretty young damsels take a robot building kit and build a machine to carry all their clobber?

 

....Or A Startrek teleporter, and they wouldn't have a problem.

C'mon guys, look outside of the square!

 

Yup, I'm a scientist (or at least used to be) not a typist.

...Keep thinking...

 

And the answer is..................

































Yes

 

Rent a horse

 

Camp in your back yard

 

forget campin and stay home and spam MG

no??

 

If I'm not mistaken, Robo is volunteering his services as a pack animal


Just don't do what these morons did:

 

Or these guys,,

 

take what you need, and lock the rest in the car.........it's just 45 min. back if you need it that bad...........wobbles

 

This is what happened to the last poor guy that borrowed a sled team from Robo's place!!....

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Robo will love this

 

bwahahaha!

Remind me not to leave cookies and milk for Santa next x-mas

 

*Sigh*....

It's no use. Santa's has a very vindictive side, ya know! ...

 

That will work. I guess I forgot to mention, that the said van will be picked up at stop point sometime that evening.

As for lightening the load..................no chance.

The ladies will probably pack as many bottles as possible in pack packs. What ever they can not fit...hello poles.

The ladies did this about 5 years ago, and only for a week visit. Seems that a two weeker is in order this time around.

 

You know you're a redneck...



when you know how to console a goat

 

Good one alanc

 

After years of camping and hiking in the backwoods I would recommend the following:

1. reduce, reduce, reduce. Take only what is absolutely not a luxury for a 2 week outing.

2. for 2 weeks, I would take 3 to 4 sets of clothing (usually 3 as you can wash one set per day in the creek with biodegradable soap) and dry a set while you wear the other and hold one in reserve for "emergencies"

3. take dried foods (note: do not buy a LOT of the commercial dehydrated camping foods, most are simply the same as the commercial dried foods such as Hamburger Helper and the like just packed better is all, repack them in heavy duty ziplock bags and be sure to include the directions panel). Take dried fruits, nuts and cereals as they are lightweight and easy to prepare/eat. Also full of protein and carbohydrates that your body needs in such circumstances.

4. IF you are well versed in gathering wild foods (and I stress the IF here) then supplement your menu with wild foods gathered while camping. Wild onions, bamboo shoots, wild garlic, various berries and nuts, different greens, fish, wild game and other food items abound in the woods IF you know what you are doing. IF you don't know what you are doing... DON'T EXPERIMENT! Experimenting with foods you do not know can be deadly or at the very least quite upsetting to the digestive tract. I cannot stress this enough!! Stay away from any mushrooms unless you are 100% positive they are edible and then use caution anyway.

5. Bring some type of water filtration or purification tablets. The body can survive without food but not without H20. Most sources of H20 in the areas that people travel to have parasites that can cause long term illness and/or death. It is always safer to purify your water than take the chance (this is from someone who used to drink the H20 of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area without fear but not anymore)

6. ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS let someone know when you plan to leave AND when you plan to return. Along with this let people know your planned route with any possible side-trips that are planned. If you take an unplanned side trip it is a wise idea to leave some type of marker on the trail that others will recognize showing the direction you have taken.

7. Take minimal survival gear, make a kit of first aid supplies, wire (picture wire works best for snares), fishing line with a few hooks (no lures, you can make lures easy enough), matches (strike anywhere coated with nail polish to waterproof them), thread (heavy duty), needles, multi-tool, flint and steel (or a fire-piston if you have one), first aid book (good one, not some cheap one). Also carry a good quality knife with sharpening stone (worth it's weight). I would also take a colapsible saw and hatchet (don't need an axe, you aren't building a cabin).

8. DON'T mess with the bears! Bears and other large carnivores such as Mountain Lions kill, simple as that. They are great to watch in the wild FROM A DISTANCE. Just remember that they are WILD ANIMALS and as such must be respected for their actions which come naturally. Don't be a Treadwell (a person who started Grizzly People and came to an untimely death due to his beliefs on living with Griz). Moose also require a wide berth (ask anyone who lives in moose country, they will explain why you need to give a 2000+ lb. animal a lot of room if you can't figure it out for yourself. But remember this, ANY animal can be a fit of fury and cause great harm to you if cornered. Unless you plan on eating it, don't try to approach it. Simple as that.

Hope this is helpful, I know I have left a lot out but don't wish to take up your entire day here. Oh and BTW if this is something other than a honest request on advise on taking to the wilds for two weeks, and I'm missing it, then please excuse my being anal. I have a lot going on right now and tend to take things literally when I have so much stress in my life. Sorry if this is the case.

Wraith

 

Wraith, DV8Cowboy and everyone else. I do appreciate everything said. I am actually excited about this trip. As for reduce....It's the best we can do. The liquids well, lets just say that is the point of the trip. We just can't leave them behind. Friend has a cell phone, so I am hoping it will work up there. Although there is a boat and a canoe up there, I think we should actually stay off the water unless it's in the mid morning hours.

Well we still have some planning to do and I am hoping to be out there before the end of this month.

 

smt, i hope you have a great time. wraiths advice was good. have another look at reducing what your taking. you would be supprised at what you can do without.
fill small bottles with shampoo n conditioner. dont take makeup. a sarong works better than a towel, lighter and easier to dry and doubles as clothing. i dont know what sorta weather your looking at, but take one pair of hiking shoes and one pair of sandles. saimin, the new packets of tuna, cereal, pasta, packet sauses, stuffing mixs, lightwieght waterproof sleeping bag, mozzy net (depending on location) even with the bottle two people should be able to camp for two weeks wioth a back pack eacfh. spread out everything you plan to take and rationalize it. every oz you save counts!
have a good time. (take some antihistamine cream and tablets). aloha

 

Liquids can be bulky and heavy. Instead of beer,, take whiskey. Much easier to pack. For food,, call pizza delivery on the cell phone. For clothes,, just take hiking boots, and socks. Hmmm,,, be sure to post pics on your return.

 

Whiskey? Bacardi 151 or better yet Everclear


Lots of pics

 

Don't forget the bug repellant and sun block kiddo. Lots of good info here. Go as light as you can and improvise when necessary. Have a great time.

 

IMHO the only usage of alcohol on an extended campout such as this is for antiseptic purposes. Alcohol is dangerous in survival situations as it clouds the judgement severely and in survival, clouded judgement is deadly! But I do agree on the pics!

Wraith

 

2 women? Alone? In the woods?
Oh jeepers!!!

 

@musky ... cabin has sauna and we may decide to leave towels at home.
@Wraith .. Our mission is to get so drunk that we forget there is a world out there.
@dperino .. after seeing all your pics posted all over your forum, I would amost consider bringing you, but no this trip.
@alanc .. I have seen your post...no pics for you. You either Robo.
As for pics. Sorry boys. By the way, did I also mention we were going to work on our tan. We don't have to worry about tan lines out there...

 

i would recommend throwing the 4 cases of booze on a handtruck... if the terrain isn't all that steep, it's very easy to pull or push a handtruck...

 

Terrain: Rocks, logs, stumps and some sections of mud. Doesn't that sound great? We will bring first aid stuff incase one of us should twist an ankle. We also have lots of stuff to kill the pain.

 

Bring some mace, you can never be too careful... especially when camping out in the "middle of nowhere" away from civlization....

 

I suppose you could stuff all the clothes and so forth in the sleeping bags, and then stack them on top of the crates. Less gear is the way to go, i.m.h.o. I've had a few camps spoiled by trying to lug too much gear around (courtesy of the wife, of course! )

The army version of 'camping' was a Tobacco sized tin with a razor blade, fishing line and hook, convex metal mirror, flint, and a few other essentials. And then plopped in the middle of the African bush. Then we had to make it back to the "Hotel Harare" outpost. Enough said.

 

This is one of those chance of a life time trips. Imagine, no one around for miles. Lots of tunes (loud), lots of beverages and no responsibilities except making sure you crawl in doors before the bugs get too bad. Two weeks of that and no reason to stop before it's up.

 

Well, someone's got to cook and wash dishes, while I work on getting rid of my tan lines.

 

Men! Bring crappy stuff in a can that all you do is put on the fire. Eat out of the can and then throw it away. Little cooking and no dishes.

 

I still need the women to haul in all my stuff though.

 

Man, it's a good thing you can't see my face right now. Ouch. If two woman can cart what we are bringing and not need a man, then one strong guy can carry his own stuff.

Sure we are getting off easy, we are not bringing much to wear. Look at all the bottles, and we're woman. Talk about a heavy load.

 

>Moose also require a wide berth (ask anyone who lives in moose country, they will explain why you need to give a 2000+ lb. animal a lot of room if you can't figure it out for yourself.

Hehehe.
Funny you should mention that.
Living in moose country (Twin Mountain, NH), we see moose all the time.
I had an 'up close an personal' encounter with a moose just about a year ago (sorta).
I camped out (about 45 min in from the trailhead, coincidentally). I go there late in the day, nearly dusk, and had to bushwhack to find a small area off the trail large enough to pitch the tent.
Everything was OK until about 0200 hrs, when moosezilla (or so it sounded) approached from uphill. Moosezilla clomped his/her way through the woods, to our clearing, and proceeded to inspect the tent up close and personal.
It was quite interesting when the moose stuck his/her snout into the nylon of the tent, and my snout was about 4 inches from its snout.
Since we werent moose browse, it continued its inspection for awhile,then proceeded on its way in a northeasterly direction.
This was late august (or a little earlier), and the moose wasn't interested in anything other than food at that time.

BTW, at least around here, moose don't get up to 2000#, the record in NH is something in the 1300# range. The cow we got in 1999 dressed out at 610#.

 

What exactly are you bringing?

 

Just the basics. Booze, food, Battery operated TV, 2 guitars, Laptop with wireless internet, Hammock, multiband radio, portable shower, a gallon of massage oil, fish fryer, and a swiss army knife.

 

ACCCCK

LMAO

 

I've been taking "Man" lessons from alanc,,, he's my new role model,,

 

And a very good model he is
I was curious about the massage oil and the fish fryer. Why not just use cooking oil to fry the fish like regular folk?

 

Uh,, very different applications there Susan.