Can I install linux?

Discussion in 'Software' started by noodlesis, Jun 3, 2006.

  1. noodlesis

    noodlesis Private First Class

    Is there any way that i can install linux for just me? My computer has multiple profiles, and i want to have linux, but the other people don't.
     
  2. Bladesofhalo

    Bladesofhalo MajorGeek

    Linux is an OS, so I dont believe you can install with only one profile.
     
  3. noodlesis

    noodlesis Private First Class

    Aww... dangit...
     
  4. N80

    N80 Private E-2

    Actually their is in theory a way... if you can get a LOW(linux on windows) software program, it might work, though i've never used one. Just google search "Linux on Windows" You do need a decent amount of RAM to use it though (or u could just try Damn Small Linux)

    If you do find the software someone might be able to help you set it up.
     
  5. N80

    N80 Private E-2

    Actually... try colinux.com
     
  6. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

  7. mikkh

    mikkh Private First Class

    Code:
     http://wubi-installer.org/
    Yeah, nice idea, pity their server can't handle it :(

    I tried kubuntu first - 5 kb/sec (sort of dial-up modem speed :zzz) and over a days download, which is not exactly practical

    ubuntu was worse at bytes per second !!

    last try on xubuntu, same result as kubuntu, but then it's using the same site/server so I don't why I'm surprised at that.

    Shame, it does seem seem like the easiest way for a newcomer to try a full version of Linux with no partitioning and an easy uninstall.

    The only other dead easy alternative is embedded DSL which runs inside Windows

    http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-4.2.5-embedded.zip

    I think it uses qemu - and suffers from it too, speed wise and DSL (Damn Small Linux) is not exactly a typical Linux sticking to it's 50 MB size as it does
    and looking and feeling exactly like the stripped to the bone Linux it is

    Still, it's an easy taster of Linux with no hassle, so give it a try
     
  8. mikkh

    mikkh Private First Class

    Apparently you can use an 8.04 ISO too - with 'wubi'

    I'm investigating that option now, or I will be if I can find a decent mirror that's not crawling like a slug - 100 kb/sec is the fastest I've found so far

    I'll let you know
     
  9. mikkh

    mikkh Private First Class

    Yes, it works with an ISO file too :)

    Nice little tool

    Pick your desired OS - Kubuntu in my case, pick the size of the pseudo file system - I chose 7 GB instead of the default 15, supply a user password and go :major

    I'm using it now, and there's no noticeable lack of speed, like you often get in 'live' CD's
    This feels like a real hard drive install and is very usable.

    Quick install, probably took less than ten minutes, and it added kubuntu to my Vista/XP bootloader

    When asked for a 'root' password, just use your username password

    Looking good, and I'm even playing an MP3 ( after installing support for MP3's)
     
  10. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    noodlesis, there is one version of puppy that you run as a live CD; however it saves all the settings to a folder inside your windows install so you don't have to keep going through the same preferences every time you boot the live CD. You'd boot the CD when you want to run linux and it doesn't change any of the windows setup except to add one folder.

    One word of caution, when you scan with some programs (I am running CounterSpy) tell the program to ignore that folder because the scan will hang there.

    http://www.puppylinux.org/user/news.php?readmore=3
    I didn't have luck saving the session to a CD (I have two optical drives in the computer) so I saved it to the hd.
     
  11. Trussman

    Trussman Private First Class

    People you make things harder than they need to be. Try partitioning your hard drive, make the partition logical and then install Linux on the partition for yourself. you'll just have a dual boot on start-up. having to choose which OS you want to start. Make a boot P/W if you want to keep other out.

    I have a 160GB HD and have it in 4 partitions, each having it's own OS,
    Windows 98, 2000 Pro, XP Pro and now Linux, so I can learn it. All of which to keep me up-to-date for technical maintenance reasons
     
  12. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    When evaluating Linux for the first time, it is never easier to do a dual boot.

    LiveCD, or install Linux in its own virtual environment. Thats the safest way, and usually, the quickest way.
     
  13. mikkh

    mikkh Private First Class

    Slightly contradicting yourself there - you posted the 'wubi' link, and cheers for that btw, I've persuaded a few more people to try Linux because of it

    That uses a pseudo file system, but using your real hardware and dual boot

    Live CD's are great, but quite a few people can't get their heads round burning an ISO or changing the BIOS to boot from CD. And live CD's also run quite slowly especially on older hardware.

    Running inside a virtual machine is not perfect either, it needs lots of resources and doesn't use your real hardware. It uses safe virtual hardware that is more than likely inferior to your real hardware and may lead to false expectations
    You may get sound and video working in the virtual environment, but when you decide to install it for real, it's not guaranteed to find your real graphics card or sound - although it will mostly.

    The wubi way is definitely easiest. It doesn't suffer the lag of a live CD/DVD, is easy to uninstall and easy to install in the first place
     
  14. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Show me the contradiction please.


    I never said perfect. I said its the safest and usually easiest way to evaluate. Wubi pretty much is its own virtual environment.
     
  15. Trussman

    Trussman Private First Class

    Sorry about the earlier comments, Dual, Triple, or Quad boots are normal working enviroments for me. I didn't think that some may have never done it, or how confusing it might be if your 1st time. I am realizing after playing with Linux for a day, that complete install doesn't work with all aspects of my PC. Took me 4 hours just to rewrite so I could get full function of my FX8800 Video card.

    More difficult than I 1st thought
     
  16. breadbin

    breadbin Private E-2

    I'd recommend the dual boot option. especially with a new partition but again not the easiest option for a newbie but i did it ok. so why not? millions of help out there and if you've any pc knowledege its not that hard;-)
     
  17. Trussman

    Trussman Private First Class

    I wasn't talking about dual boot being hard it's just that this Linux OS doesn't work with everything I'm running and having to go in and rewrite programs for it, just takes too much time. All I wanted to do is learn about Linux, encase I have to repair one someday. With both DELL and HP putting it their low line PCs I wanted to be prepared
     

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