Car Insurance Costs?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by DavidGP, Sep 22, 2018.

  1. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Well folks

    Just came out of another thread on weather, so how the hell you get into car insurance but apt!

    In UK it can be really expensive, especially as a new our young driver, IIR my neice is paying £1300 a year for a Vauxhall Adam (nice spec she has TBH, weirdly this is the spec HERE)

    For my Abarth 595 I pay £235 or $306 per year so pretty good I think, I have full no claims (dont know if USA or AUS, CAN etc have this or not)

    But just as a random, what cars you have and what insurance you need to pay, may if some are similar cars be intersting to see country differences as well as if you have discounts for no claims per year. Do speeding fines and other police tickets cost you more?
     
  2. Anon-9aee479f8f

    Anon-9aee479f8f Anonymized

    Don't have the same vehicles as you do so can't compare premiums on that. There are lots of insurance companies in the US with lots of different options on policies.
    We get a discount for being claim free and having multiple vehicles, plus having home owners policy with same insurance company.
    If you have teen drivers it cost a lot more. If you have multiple traffic tickets it goes up. If you have a wreck you caused it goes up for a few years. If you have a DUI it really goes up. Thankfully we don't have any of these.
    Where you live, the vehicle model and year, and your annual mileage can increase your policy premiums.
    Sorry that is not of much help.:p
     
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  3. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    My 2014 cost 107$ a month with geico.I have been with them for over 3 years.

    I use to have state farm which was ripping me off on a 16 year old car.
     
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  4. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    We have two vehicles....one full coverage and the other liability only....$100.78 per month total for both.
     
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  5. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    I've got a 2001 Pontiac Grand Am, and for comprehensive I pay around $900/year. As soon as Mom's license expires and we move her to a state ID it'll go down a little, and I get a bunch of discounts (paid in full, member of a credit union, anti-theft system, good credit rating, a couple other things I don't remember offhand).
     
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  6. joffa

    joffa Major Geek's Official Birthday Announcer

    We have a Volvo V50 turbo and it is in the performance bracket and for full comprehensive cover we pay about $500/year. We have the perfect no claim bonus. It is unaffected if you make less than three claims in any 2 year period but to get this deal you have to have had no claims for >5 years and have your vehicle continuously insured by the same company.
    My daughter's Mazda CX-7 turbo is also in our name and she is named as the regular driver. Because she is under 25, full comprehensive cover would have costed her just over $1400/year but having it in our name and having her as a listed driver then the premium is down to $650.

    Comprehensive car insurance is a rip off in Australia but what do you do when you have a nice car. Better to pay as you never know when you might need it ;):cool:
     
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  7. Bob D.

    Bob D. Majorgeeks official old fart

    2009 Toyota Sienna mini van. 9235 miles. Yes that's correct.
    Geico for one year a little over $700 a year. Includes roadside service.:D
     
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  8. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Would have to agree with Joffa that vehicle insurance is not really 'hip-pocket' friendly here in Oz, but there are some high-tech ways nowadays that will save you $$ on premiums if you do your homework.
    Different Insurance Co. will offer varying ways to save of-course, so research is imperative to suit ones own individual style, or rather, driving habits.

    No claims bonus discounts seem to be going out of fashion today with most companies as they add new ways you can save.
    Many insurance company premiums are now based on your driving habits solely now.....in other words, how safely you drive, how often often you drive and the time of day that most driving is done, as well as the area of driving.

    One may ask how do they police this type of policy?
    The 'high-tech' discounts i refer too are what they call an 'Insurance Box'. QBE offer it here in Oz.
    Basically its a company supplied little blue box that plugs into your OBD port under your dash. The same port service technicians use to diagnose your vehicles fault issues.
    It records data such as speed, distance travelled, area usage via GPS and even braking pressure applied....pretty much like a black box flight recorder.
    You simply upload the data to their website on a monthly basis and your premiums are accessed accordingly.... and the savings can be quite significant if you live in a country area, are retired, and only drive perhaps a few times a week!

    Dashcams are also a big plus however, the saving here is not such much 'premium based' but rather cost 'Excess' based on any claims.
    You may be able to get out of paying any excess on your policy in an accident, if you can supply footage of the incident proving that it was not your fault.

    Another cool high-tech solution is what Budget Direct call 'Hail Hero'.
    Its a warning system that sends a txt to your phone to warn you when hail is on the way to the suburb you live in and provided when you sign up for your policy.
    Its designed to give you at least 10 minutes warning so as your able to move your vehicle under cover.

    If your vehicle is fitted with Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB), some companies will also give you a rather generous rebate off the premiums you pay ( ie NRMA).

    Fitted vehicle Tracking devices are also in the loop by some companies here in order to save you $$ and are especially useful for premiums involving Theft of your car.

    It pays to do your research guys, and I know its a PITA, but always read your policy 'fine print'!

    :)
     
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  9. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    My 2001 has something like 9725 on it. :D
     
  10. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    No Kat thats prefect reply as similar to here in UK.
     
  11. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    A month?? Geeez what you drive a Ferrari!
     
  12. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Thats not bad for a classic, I have heard that if you have a few cars, get a really cheap to insure one like a SMART and use that as main car as others drop.
     
  13. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Pete, £277 (equ of AUS 500) is good for UK standards, agree in having kids in name but if they can build up no clamins bonus is needed, my neice 18yrs has a really nice small car, my sister pays near £1400 per year for her, so good for new driver, but hopefully drops in a yr or so if no claims.
     
  14. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    UK wise not so bad TBH in price https://www.statista.com/statistics/751199/average-car-insurance-cost-by-age/
    Pays to shop around per year which I do always in last 5yrs as staying loyal to a company sadly does not pay TBH, Agree roadside services is a bonus, I luckily get this with the bank account I have with HSBC and with car if I get a dealer service per year as Abarth service is free (ok you paid for service a few £100 but worth it)
     
  15. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Agree its the way its going as more tech in cars, mine will plot and save your accelleration, gear changes, breaking etc and map route, to an app, scary TBH. weirdy I'm 66% efficient at present, for car thats good as never can lower the accelleration %

    But is this the best way to judge and charge drivers over, type of car, location (zip/postalcode). milage etc
    Pay by wire/drive so to speak?
     
  16. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    I dunno.....should a driver living in the country who is lucky to see a car on his way to the store, pay the same premiums as a city accountant in traffic 4 hours per day?

    Risk v's Reward i guess!
     
  17. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Ours is much much worse.

    We have 5 cars (including my husband's convertible 86 mercedes convertible that I want to get rid of) and 2 under 25 year old drivers and we pay an obscene amount of money a month in insurance. :(
     
  18. Replicator

    Replicator MajorGeek

    Now we seriously must talk about this LR....:D

    Edit: Don't make any extremely rash decisions
     
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  19. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member


    lol...I was trying to sell it about two weeks ago to his buddy. It didn't work.
     
  20. Gensuknives

    Gensuknives Grand pooty-meister

    Do his golf clubs go on the market next?? LOL J/K
     
  21. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Compromise!
    Suggest he trades it in on an Audi S5 or RS5 cabriolet. :D
     
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  22. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Not as long as I'm beating him on the course! :D

    Ha! I have and S6 already, so don't think that would work, Eldon.

    One of my dad's friends wants his old car. I keep bringing it up. He hasn't gone for it yet.
     
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  23. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    US here. I have a company called metromile. They charge a low rate and then a per mile cost. It's really good if you don't drive many miles.
     
  24. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I posted on your profile. :p
     
  25. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Agree with you they should not but unless we have GPS basied insurance it will be sadly just baised off car and in UK off car and postcode (zipcode)

    How many can you drive at once? glib reply I know as I'm thinking of an SUV as well as having my little Abarth, so two cars and can only drive 1 at a time. I have heard that in the USA on instrance a really cheap car to insure for main car reduces all the others, so a SMARTor bit more fun an Abarth car is a winner.
     
  26. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    I know! Which is why I want to get rid of the old car. My husband is the only one with two cars. The girls each have a car at college and I drive my Audi.
     
  27. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I do like your Audi.
    As I mentioned still ponndering an SUV, Audi's new coming SQ2 is in the mix as is Alfa Stelvio Q4 and AMG GLC coupe, do I need one not really as the Abarth is awesome for city driving. Think I need a long test drive of a few of the aforementioned.
     
  28. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    The only thing i hate about these newer cars any more,Is the ABS system,It sucks badly.

    I remember back in the day.Cars did not have all this safety crap.And there were less truck and car accident's.

    I disable my ABS fuse in the winter.
     
  29. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    You can't be serious. Only the world's best race car drivers can outperform ABS.
    There were less trucks and cars... ;)
     
  30. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    Not true.
     
  31. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Prove me wrong. :D
     
  32. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    Ive been driving for 18 years.It's not that hard to do.If you are use to driving older cars that don't have ABS.They just feel like normal breaks.The only thing ABS breaks are pretty much meant for,is they are suppose to help prevent from your breaks locking up.I never have had any breaks lock up on me even during winter.That is with both ABS on and off.

    ABS off just act like normal breaks.You just have to learn not to over pump them.I have had a few close calls be cause of ABS would not stop pressing the breaks going down a steap ICY hill.

    I feel ABS is more dangerous then normal breaks.
     
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  33. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    You're wrong and I've been driving twice that long, if you want to play that card. Yeah, I learned to drive when you were learning to stop pooping in your pants. I doubt I'm the only one, either.
    Automobile deaths are dropping in spite of more drivers, more cars and more miles.
    https://i.postimg.cc/R010T626/US_traffic_deaths_per_VMT_VMT_per_capita_and_total_annual_dea.png
    I'm curious to know what vehicle you were driving down that aforementioned icy hill in which the brakes engaged without your input.
     
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  34. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    If you are involved in a motor vehicle accident, and the assessor finds that you have tampered with the ABS, your claim will be null and void.
    If someone is injured, or dies, in the accident, you will be in deep trouble.
    I started driving in 1980 and obtained my first driving license the following year.
     
  35. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Sounds like you were using an older ABS version but it still worked rapidly enough that it fooled you.

    You only get the 'pumping' on/off sequence when ABS detects a loss of grip/lockup on one or more wheels; as it detects a lockup, it releases and almost immediately reapplies the brakes, effectively slowing/stopping the vehicle more efficiently than you can without ABS under most slippery on-road conditions.

    I used cadence braking during my driving test's emergency stop scenario, downhill into a shaded road section with embankments rising on either side and damp leaves.
     
  36. gman863

    gman863 MajorGeek

    My insurance on a 2017 Camry is about $1400/year USD (good driving record, but insured up to 1M liability and medical).

    What sucks is that, in Houston, auto insurance went up 15-20% across the board this year. Over 500,000 (yes, half a million) cars got written off by insurance after Hurricane Harvey. Even though I've never flooded, I still have to pay. :mad:
     
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  37. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    OMG Gman

    Thats £1k UK, in UK adding extra legal cover is not that much per yr, likely adds £50 ($65) to yrly premiums.
    Think thats a crux in insuance as a whole, a huge weather issue will bump up pemiums as insurance companies are not going to loose out in the end.
     

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