CMOS Checksum error!

Discussion in 'Software' started by chukeej, Nov 10, 2010.

  1. chukeej

    chukeej Private E-2

    WinXP Home/SP2/IE7: On booting up I get this message: "Energy Star Phoenix Award Bios Version NAA21EM. CMOS Checksum error. Defaults loaded.
    Warning! system is in Safe Mode. Please resetting CPU frequency in the CMOS setup. Press F1 or F2.....
    I then press F1 and the pc starts normally. However, I am wondering if this message on startup has anything to do with a d/load and install from microsoft windows website to restore Internet Explorer icon to my desktop which was done yesterday.
    How can I disable this message from appearing at startup? Thanks.
     
  2. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Is it a desktop PC? It sounds like your CMOS battery has died and needs to be replaced. Easy on a desktop---not easy on a laptop.
     
  3. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    There are two ways to disable this message: replace the CMOS battery or keep the computer plugged into a strip but do not turn that outlet off on the power strip.

    As long as the computer is plugged into electricity and doesn't rely on the CMOS battery (which is dead or very weak) to maintain the settings, it will retain the settings and the message will not appear on boot up.
     
  4. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    You should install Critical Updates for your computer including Service Pack 3.

    Learn How To Install Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)

    Scroll down the page and click Before you begin and then
    Installing SP3 using Windows Update (recommended)
     
  5. motc7

    motc7 Vice Admiral (Starfleet)

    Yeah, CMOS batt replacement...get r done!
     
  6. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    This info is *not* intended as a different solution to the CMOS error.

     
  7. chukeej

    chukeej Private E-2

    Thanks to all for your replies and suggestions, and for the link to install SP3.
    I think I now have the CMOS error message solved. I didn't want to go the way of installing a new battery, since I have no idea how to get to it in the first place - so I decided to go with the advice to leave the power strip on after I shut down my pc. That seems to have the system back to normal.
    Cheers and thumbs up!
     
  8. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    If you change your mind it is not that difficult to change if we are talking about a desktop. The battery is easy to locate/recognize since it just looks like a large watch type coin shaped battery. Radio Shack and even many pharmacies and supermarkets with large battery displays sell replacements for a couple of dollars. Just be sure to unplug the computer before opening the case.

    If you decide later that you would like to change it let us know the model number and we can probably get you instructions for opening the case (usually just a slide door).

    1 minute video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBWZOtp2is&feature=related


    ***[Laptop CMOS batteries are often harder to replace so if you have a laptop I understand your hesitance and don't recommend trying to replace it without researching your model number.]
     
  9. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    LOL Hi Sach2
    Just saw your post immediately after I posted. :-D


    Here's a little help.
    Changing the CMOS battery:

    How to Replace the CMOS Battery

    How to Replace the CMOS Battery in Your Computer

    YouTube Video:
    How To Replace a CMOS Battery

    Dealing with ElectroStatic Discharge:
    Static Electricity Can Damage Your Computer

    How to Ground Yourself to Avoid Destroying a Computer with Electrostatic Discharge

    A MUST BUY
    Get an antistatic wrist strap like this at Radio Shack.
    The one I got was even cheaper.
    Ultra Antistatic Wrist Strap
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2010
  10. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Hey mjnc!

    Your links are good. :)

    CMOS battery changes are pretty simple and a good introduction to not being afraid to look around at what is inside a PC case. I agree with you that it is better to just replace the battery and be done with it for the next 3-5 years.
     
  11. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I have a CMOS battery I'm afraid to replace so I use the power strip method. ;)

    The computer is my husband's workhorse computer and unfortunately, it is one of those all-in-one desktops. The computer is attached behind the LCD screen. Once I did remove all the screws but when I saw all those plastic parts, I was afraid to pry the LCD screen and the motherboard enclosure apart. A working computer is better than a non-working one!
    Eventually I will have him weened off of that computer and he will use the other one set up on the KVM switch. Then I shall chance taking the computer apart.

    Yet another reason for me to never buy another all-in-one space saving computer. (Note: I did not buy this one, I was given this as non-working computer to e-cycle. He's been using the thing for at least 5 years since I got it working.)
     
  12. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Hi plodr :)

    I've only worked on three laptops and everything has to go back exactly correctly. Any tiny mistake and the whole thing doesn't work. Take apart put back together; rinse and repeat until something clicks into place. I have much more respect for old-time watch makers after those experiences.

    I'd never heard of the power strip method but I will definitely keep it in mind. I had one PC that just would not work correctly without a CMOS battery. Every startup gave some new error with HD not being recognized or scrambled graphics etc. I got in the habit of keeping an extra battery around just because of that stubborn machine.
     
  13. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    I used to be scared to death of opening the case to do anything - even installing a RAM chip - afraid I'd mess something up.

    Even a RAM chip can be problematic.
    If not completely seated in its slot, that will cause a short as soon as the machine is turned on
    and that will fry the motherboard.

    Beginners Guides: Most Common Ways to Kill a PC

    An antistatic wrist strap is a MUST!.
     
  14. chukeej

    chukeej Private E-2

    To: plodr - Thanks for the tip to keep power strip on. To: sach2 & mjnc - Thanks for posting diagrams how to change the cmos battery. I'll pluck up some courage and try it sometime if I have the problem again...
    Much appreciated help.
     

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