Compacting registry

Discussion in 'Software' started by BILLMCC66, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    A few days ago i got a program (AthTec registry cleaner) from "give away of the day" I like it and it really does find a lot of rubbish.
    Among it's tools it has a registry compacter, So what if any are the benefits of compacting ???
     

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  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi Bill

    Absolutely none as the registry is not that big really, varies in size per PC and what's installed, but in reality its a few hundred MB's at best (mine is 348mb, and just wait as everyone and their cat will post theirs, but it varies and will be different per OS and installed apps, so is a useless figure to post after an initial example), and doesn't suffer as much as some think from fragmentation.

    The negatives in messing with de-fragmenting/compacting the registry is apps like those will go into the HIVES like Security that they should really leave alone and remove items, if the app is not good at working out what's needed or not as some blank keys are needed, they you have a dead Windows OS.

    Personally I'd leave well alone.
     
  3. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    Thanks David, i suspected there would be no benefits but was just curious.
    Needless to say i have never and will never do this.
     
  4. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi Bill

    Didnt think you would and as you did ask first anyways. The registry HIVES are scarey places to edit or cleanup if you dont know what the keys do and the Security and SAM ones are not ones I touch at all.

    I know I do mention using CCleaners registry cleaner at times, but that ones a quite tame one and doesnt go into those areas, so just removes only app entries basically, but I do worry about apps that compact and defrag the registry as within defragging you are moving data around, so if it gets it wrong and corrupts some keys you are fudged!

    The only app I would likely trust is PageDefrag (not working in Win7 x64 but its for XP and 2003, may work for some in other OSes) from Mark Russinovich, but I'd still likely not use is knowing that what you may save in a few hunded KBs or a few MBs is not worth the hassle of rebuilding an OS.
     
  5. tgell

    tgell Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I fully agree with David. I deleted .Net from my old computer, removed thousands of registry keys and compacted the registry about 30% with Erunt and noticed no increase in speed or boot time.
     
  6. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    I don't mess with the registry unless given specific instructions by someone who knows what they're talking about, even then it was just a test to see what it was all about on a throwaway install, I believe I deleted the Recycle Bin from the desktop and then couldn't get it back!:-D
     
  7. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    Cleaning, Defragmenting and Compacting are three separate operations; they are not the same.

    Compacting the registry removes wasted or Empty space.

    Since the registry is loaded into RAM at boot time, a compacted registry will consume less RAM.

    The only registry Compactor I trust and use is NTREGOPT which is packaged with the registry backup utility ERUNT.

    NTREGOPT can be used with Windows 7 and Vista as well as Windows XP.
    FAQ: NTREGOPT and ERUNT

    I also use Pagedefrag which defragments the paging file and registry files.
    Pagedefrag works only with Windows XP.

     

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