CPU Temps and PWM Temps

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by frankzro, Oct 1, 2007.

  1. frankzro

    frankzro Corporal

    Lately I have been checking my CPU temps and my PWM temps using my ABITEQ on winvista. Vista is not the problem so do not start with aiming anything at vista. I use arctic silver 5 on my CPU and have read up that I should reply after 3-5 months so I should be doing that soon and possibly get a new Zalman CPU fan the 9700 looks nice. Anyways my main concern is with the PWM overheating and I am not overclocking at all. Even right now on idle my CPU is idleing at 48-50o C O_O and the PWM is 52o C O_O why GOD!? You know what I mean :p any ways I need to know how the heck I can lower the PWM down because when I play Graphic heavy games and I am using an 8800GTX which is hotter then the pits of hell ; sometimes my PWM temp maxes out


    I dunno if its because my 8800GTX is close to the heat pipe or what but It makes it sound like my comp is going to explode (meaning the constant Alarm that goes off)

    Well Heres the Case I have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133021

    And this is the Mobo I have
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127237

    Oh yeah and my CPU is AMD x2 6000+

    I dunno I do have some options, like reaganging my room -_- putting the comp near a window to get max airflow or something.

    But yeah some one help me out with this PWM thing.
     
  2. viper_boy403

    viper_boy403 MajorGeek

    ummm wtf is a PWM? lol

    are you talking about your chipset?
     
  3. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    How much thermal paste did you use on the CPU? And I am with Viper on what is the PWM?

    The CPU temp seems a bit high. My AMD 4200 dual is running 44C at full load on both cores. Why don't you try taking the side panel off the case and placing a house fan blowing air into it and see if that helps you out temp wise?

    Nice case. Do you have the intake and exhaust fans hooked up and blowing the right way? I hate to ask such a simple question, but it usually is the most simple things that are overlooked.

    Good luck.

    E
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2007
  4. viper_boy403

    viper_boy403 MajorGeek

  5. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    A fan only works if it is plugged in... And they work best if they are blowing the right direction. I now look for the simple stuff first, you can always get more complex.

    E
     
  6. viper_boy403

    viper_boy403 MajorGeek

    Good point! im not going to deny it, ive put a fan on backwards once or twice...
     
  7. BCGray

    BCGray Guest

    But I am guessing what is being refered to is a PSU that may have a PWM circuit, and that this is what is overheating and possible shutting down???

    If that is the case then I would suggest a larger PSU, as your case is Pro as far as ventilation is concerned.

    A listing of your PSU would help
     
  8. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Good info on the PWM BCGray. CPU temps seem a little high to me, and the original poster did not mention crashes. Sounds like we need the op to give more info.

    E
     
  9. frankzro

    frankzro Corporal

    OMFG, If I need a New PSU Im sending Mine back to get another. I am supposed to have a 3year Warranty on that MOFO. Grrr...

    No I do not get any shut downs or crashes, Its a very robust system.

    I have the OCZXtremeGamer 700W PSU

    This one here :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002&Tpk=OCZ+PSU


    And about the Fan thing, I can not put them in any other way because they where installed when I got the case :D. I may not be getting enough air because my case is in the corner of them room -__-. Maybe I was not supposed to hook both PCIE cords to my 8800GTX and that could be the problem XD.


    Also do you think my PSU might be giving out after only 5 Months of use?... I hope not. It is possible
     
  10. viper_boy403

    viper_boy403 MajorGeek

    if it has a plug, then something usually goes in it lol. I doubt a high end OCZ will die on you, especially this early.

    was BC right about the PWM? is that what you meant?
     
  11. ibbonkers

    ibbonkers First Sergeant

    Hello Frankzro do as suggested above with a fan. If the temps drop drastically then you know your main problem will be airflow.. Does that big side fan blow air out of the case or in? does the rear fan blow out or in? chech these and let us know. Running 100 % on all cores I only get to 49c you being there at idle is not a good thing.
     
  12. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    BCGray's definition of PWM can't apply here, that would make no sense.

    He is probably referring to his motherboard. The motherboard uses passive cooling via heatpipes, and I can tell ya, its not as efficient as active cooling, and is more ideal for water cooled systems.

    That he is stable with the mb temps at 52c tells me those SLI'ed cards are very likely to be blowing heat onto the temperature sensors for the motherboard creating a false reading.

    Are you using Cool and Quiet at all? Its a high temperature, but you are still within spec of the CPU.

    What about cable management? Poor airflow, especially with boards that employ passive cooling really heats things up.

    As for AS5 every few months....maybe if you are overclocking. I'm sitting on the same application from over 2 years ago and still have good temperatures.
     
  13. ibbonkers

    ibbonkers First Sergeant

    Just on a side note to someone who may know: if you have an sli board but use only 1 card can you use the lower pci-e slot to move the cards heat away from the heatpipe? that may help if possible
     
  14. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    i don't understand a lot that has been said here but my input is i am folding and let my CPU run at 100% from 05.00 until 23.00 that's 18 hour per day and my temp is

    TOSHIBA MK4025GAS 43 °C (109 °F)

    right now the only thing i have is over the course of the day it does slow down a bit but when i boot up in the morning all is well again.

    http://bestsmileys.com/hot/3.gif
     
  15. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    PWM=Pulse Width Modulation. He must be talking about his heatsink fan.
     
  16. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I don't see how. He is reading a temperature from his CPU, THEN his hsf?



    I don't think the poster is using the term properly.
     
  17. BCGray

    BCGray Guest

    You might want to run another Voltage/Temp monitor frankzro, usually if you have good case ventilation, which with that case you should. Then I would assume you either have Low Voltage which will cause higher temps, or a restriction/diversion of air flow. Like Adrynalyne said you might be getting a false reading, though that doesn't sound right if components are shutting down.

    Suggest you try "Everest" and take a screen shot and post back http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
     
  18. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest


    He has not mentioned any components shutting down.
     
  19. frankzro

    frankzro Corporal

    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=71944&stc=1&d=1191422871


    Well MOBO wise I am in a bad situation, the Idea about moving my 8800GTX to the second part of my PCIE slot crossed my mind BUT~ That can not be done because I would be taking out my X-FI sound card. Or better put as a situation is that the damn thing would blow extremely hot air on it. That scares me. I have an exhaust fan that I bought for the 8800 because it would get so hot. It can be done but I do only have ` PCI slot so that does not help me at all...

    The picture from the link is what I use to look at my temps... you may have to enlarge it. As you can see

    my CPU is at Idle 36oC my sys is at idle at 29oC and the PWM is at 40oC idle

    For me to lower that I had to use a window fan and another fan and its like 8am -_- wow... so the comp is cold yay. BUT that does not mean anything but now I know that my air flow in the corner of my room sucks :D. I really dol think the 8800 close to the heatpipe is messing with the reading

    Getting that new CPU fan might help me out , and a possible new tube of AS5 . Omg with these fans in my room one blow outside air in.... its freaking cold in here! haha:banghead
     

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  20. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Ok, I got it now.

    First of all, controlling the temperature of your environment is essential to keping a computer cool. So the 'its 8am' comment doesn't hold water. If your temps are good then, then you need to control your temperature in the room.

    Also, regarding cooling the PWM circuitry, this had some interesting ideas:

    http://computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/12057.html

    This has nothing to do with the PSU. Nor does it have anything to do with the HSF you are using, unless it has created a dead zone of no air circulation around the PWM.
     
  21. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Another variable to consider when dealing with computer cooling is the ambient temperature (temp or the room you are in). It is aprox 26°C in my house, my CPU at full load is 44°C. If you have to chill your room to run a computer, you probably have some cooling issues.

    Also make sure you used the right amount of AS-5.

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  22. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Already covered that Fred_G :)
     

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