cpu?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-104-160&depa=1 is this cpu worth the money think it will do well with some mild gaming n video capturing?

 

its a good price, but i would suggest going with an athlon XP or a sempron instead
also, consider upgrading your mobo, and switch to an athlon 64

 

FYI.
Duron is to AMD as Celeron is to Pentium.
Duron is designed more for work stations. It can handle a little basic gaming on a home computer, but if your looking at getting a high speed 3D game, like unreal tournament 2004, you might want to spend a little more on a processor.

Try this one

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-401&depa=0

Assuming it's compatible with your mother board, it should fun faster.

 

Why would you want a mobile cpu in a home computer..? And I assume it's a typo: 'as Celeron is to Pentium'
I think you should -as zulu said and me on the other thread you created- go with an athlon or a sempron. You've got a socket a mobo so as long as you buy a cpu that's socket a you'll be fine. I recommend the Sempron 2600+, it's real nice and fast.

 

I recommend this http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-104-213&depa=0
or this: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-509&depa=0

 

I'm running the mobile 2500+. awesome chip. I did not want to fork out $300 for a xp3200+, this cost $120cdn and can be easily overclocked to or past the performance of a 3200+.

 

and get ntfs crashes every five minutes

 

as you can see the sempron is $109 and the athlon $112 that's not bad at all

anf btw the 3200+ is just $167 which is well worth it's money. xpocad you could get that as well if you want.

read up on this and you'll understand why the mobile cpu isn't the best solution for home computers: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_1276_807,00.html

 

Has'nt crashed once on me. Is your info by experience or by what you have read. In Canada the 3200 are 300 bucks. The mobile chips are the cream of the crop. Amd tests (tested when they were still in production) every chip to see if the would run at speed at lower voltages. If they did they would put them in laptops. I am only making suggestions.

 

I run my mobile barton in my system at 2.6GHz at a 450FSB rock solid and iv seen peeps hit 3GHz with them so mobile CPUs are nothign to sneeze at

 

Sorry I didn't mean to be an asshole about this, of course your suggestions is as welcome as anyone elses.

About the o/c and ntfs crashes - yes, I talk out of experience. It was just 3 days ago that I tried to o/c a mobile athlon (sitting in a notebook) and got this error line at startup:
'The following file is lost or damaged: c:\windows\system32\system'
I managed to copy the file from a working o/s along with another file... can't remember what it was named... and get it to start up, but it still crashed when trying to initialize password procedure for logging into windows. Also it seem to have destroyed the file allocation table because it wouldn't let me repair using the win cd repair function either. Not even trying to reinstall would work. I had to boot up using partition magic boot disks, convert to FAT32 (well any file system other than the one at use would have worked) then format back to ntfs again. After that I could install as usual. That taught me a lesson about windooze and overclocking, even though I never had any problems o/c before. It doesnät have to go wrong but there is a chance it will.

The 3200+ for $167 is found here: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-391R&type=Refurbished

Maybe the mobile cpu works in a stationary computer as well, that I haven't tried so I'm not gonna comment on that. All I'm saying is that it wasn't initially designed to go into stationary computers.

 

maybe I need to reconsider

 

The mobile CPUs are the exact same thing as the standerd CPUs thay just run at a lower core voltage (thus run cooler) .............

 

exactly........I would love to pay that for a 3200+ and would have, but the link is new egg in the states amd with customs and the exchange on the dollar it still $300. I don't even think they ship up here ..too bad

 

well that's a good thing, but the question that pops up in my head is 'why is not all cpu's on the market mobile cpu's?' there has got to be a trade-off..?

 

Price... if you cound get a 2.6GHz cpu with a 450FSB for less then $100 or a 2.2GHz CPU with a 400FSB for $201 no one whould get the 2.2 whould thay? and then AMD whould be loosing alot of $ ............

 

I did a little reading before I jumped into the mobile. They want them to be able to run at lower volts (less heat) and still be able to perform. They also idle down when not in use to save on battery power in the laptops. These chips are unlocked . You can set the multiplyer to anything you want. When I installed it origionally, it showed up as 600mgz. 6X100=600mgz. I then changed the multiplyer to 14 and left the fsb at 133 so running at stock speed 1862mgz. I can't overclock to 3200+until I get my new ocz memory. Lost in the mail. (don't ask). I am still new to this so it is still a learning experience for me...

 

That's what doesn't add up:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-332&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-440&depa=0

According to newegg the difference is 3 bucks between the mobile and the non-mobile...

Ah well, no need to urgue about this any more, I'm sure you're right. I'll take my time and read up on it someday.

 

well I'm not exactly new to this business and that's why I'm sceptic to all this. of course I could be wrong but to my knowledge you never get anything for free, and if it's like you say then you sure get like double the performance all for free. somewhere it's gonna cost, that's what my senses tells me. but as I said, I could be wrong, and for everyones sake lets hope so

 

you are right there are drawbacks..They are sold as oem, so no warranty. I got mine with 30day, thats it. If you overclock too far they go up in smoke. so your not really saving any money in the long run if it happens. but its fun (not the up in smoke part) LOL

 

I found a web site that explaned cpu markating realy well but i cant find it now :-/.........

 

ok that makes a little sense. no guarantee...
ACE I don't think I need to know about the marketing stuff, I work as a salesman but thank you still.

speaking of up in smoke... sweclockers.com managed to o/c an Intel 2,6Ghz to well over 4Ghz. they broke the barrier using a liquid nitrogen cooling system. that was kinda cool

 

http://www.tomshardware.com./cpu/20031230/index.html 5GHz ..............

 

OMG

 

Found the overclocking site......


"Processors are traditionally rated and advertised by their speed. Computers would be advertised as Pentium III 733MHz or Pentium III 1.0GHz (1000MHz). The more megahertz (MHz) the faster they go. What most buyers don't realize is that in terms of construction, a Pentium III 733 Coppermine is identical to a Pentium III 1.0GHz. So why is there a difference in speeds? When a batch of processors is built, different processors in the same batch will have different tolerance levels. In a single batch some processors will only be able to run at 733MHz while others can run 866MHz, 933MHz or 1000MHz and so on. This rating is known as the "clock speed". Ideally, processors will be sold at the maximum speeds they are capable of operating at and bring the largest amount of profit to the manufacturer. But as faster processors cost more than the slower ones, demand for the latter are usually higher. In order to meet the market demand, the manufacturer marks processors capable of running at 933MHz at the speed of 733Mhz units. Because of this, some "slower" processors can happily run at a higher speed. Unlocking this potential is called overclocking."

.........hope that helps clear things up for ya

 

but this is not always the case as you can tell thare is no 2.6 GHz barton ( the fastest iv seen is 2.2 i think ) So OCing
is exactly what is said in the quote and it is the stereotipical pushing the limits of speed and stability ....In my case i have a 2GHz barton that is realy a 2.2GHz barton that happaly runs 2.6GHz ... am i making any since ?

 

excellent info ace! thats exactly what I was trying to say in my earlier posts. LOL. great explanation.

 

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. The link I meant to give him was for the 1.8 athlon socket a 256 cache not the mobile one. Here's the right link.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&catalog=343&propertycodevalue=0,%203904,%200,%200,%200,%203353,%200,%200&minprice=&maxprice=&mfrcode=1028&DEPA=1&InnerCata=343

This'll give a good boost over the Duron you were looking at. But, if you've got a little extra to spend you might want to listen to these guys.

 

ACE 256, that makes perfect sence and I would like to add that everone I have ever spoken to about the mobil 2500 love them, mostly because of the unlocked multiplyer and lower heat witch makes them super for overclocking.

Rick

 

well of course that's the way everything goes. it's the same with cars, internet connections, audio equipment, hell the market's full of these tricks just to sell more. but it still doesn't explain the low price difference

I may be swedish but I'm not st00pid!

anyhow, if these guys are right then xpocad you should get a mobile amd

 

they are oem, replacement chips for laptops. someone just happened to try them in a pc. and it worked and this is how it started. Most mb manufactures do not support using the mobile chip. The price has gone up in the past year. There is tons of information on the web. I'm done.

 

One other tidbit for those reading along, the mobile cpu's only work with socket A,
From what I have read don't even try a mobile Amd64 chip in a desktop, extra mod's are required to make it work.

Rick