"Ctrl Alt Delete" Log-on

Discussion in 'Software' started by Cherokee, Jul 31, 2005.

  1. Cherokee

    Cherokee Private E-2

    I know this must be simple but I'm stumped. Today I decided to change the log-on of my home desktop to include "Ctrl Alt Delete." I have XP Pro with all the latest updates including SP2. I am logged on as an administrator. I open the User Accounts control panel and I don't get an "Advance" tab. I have clicked on everything I can see and can't get to an "Advance" tab to change the log on.

    I checked my laptop with XP Pro and the "Advance" tab is there. Can someone give me some direction? The desktop is one that I put together and I purchased the XP Pro through eBay. I registered it and it installed fine. It has never been a problem. This is the first unusual thing that I have come across.

    Any help is appreciated.
     
  2. Coco

    Coco Sergeant Major

    I'm not quite sure I know what you mean. As far as I know there is no advanced tab on the "user accounts" screen. Normally the option to change the login type is shown on the main screen as a link and it says "change the way users log on or off". Just press that to turn the welcome screen on/off (no welcome screen means you have to use ctrl alt delete).
     
  3. Cherokee

    Cherokee Private E-2

    I changed from the welcome screen and got the classic log-in screen but no "Ctrl Alt Delete." I even rebooted to see if the "Ctrl Alt Delete" log-in would appear - no luck.

    I get two different Control Panels between the Laptop and the tower. One has the "advance" tab and one doesn't. On the "Advance" tab, you can select the additional requirement to have the user enter "Ctrl Alt Delete" before getting the log-in screen.
     
  4. brownizs

    brownizs MajorGeek

    To set up for Ctrl-Alt-Del, you have to change your Log-In to "Classic", and then in the registry, implement these changes:

    Settings:
    System Key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
    Name: DisableCAD
    Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)
    Value: (0 = Require Ctrl+Alt+Delete, 1 = Disable)

    Settings:
    User Key: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
    System]
    Name: DontDisplayLastUserName
    Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)
    Value: (1 = remove username)

    System Key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
    System]
    Name: DontDisplayLastUserName
    Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)
    Value: (1 = remove username)

    You can download a great Registry Guide from http://www.winguides.com at http://www.winguides.com/software/download.php?id=1. I have used this guide extensively, and it does come in handy for having it all in one place.
     
  5. Coco

    Coco Sergeant Major


    Windows XP IS winNT. It's WinNT 5.1 to be exact.

    Although now that I think about it I believe windows XP Pro only shows the ctrl alt delete login if you attach it to a domain. Not to say those registry edits won't work, I'm sure they do. I bet they just make a few of the changes that putting it on a domain would have made.
     
  6. brownizs

    brownizs MajorGeek

    The registry settings are for Security purpose, and has nothing to do with the Domain. You can still log into a Domain without the Ctrl-Alt-Del settings. And yes they do work.
     
  7. md2lgyk

    md2lgyk I can't follow the rules

    In Win 2K, that option is controlled under Local Security Policy.
     
  8. Cherokee

    Cherokee Private E-2

    Thanks, I'll try the registry changes. I would have thought Microsoft would have made it easier than that.
     
  9. brownizs

    brownizs MajorGeek

    It is easy if you use the Registry settings for a Workgroup. Otherwise for a Domain, it is easy. The Local Security Policy only works if on a Domain, not in a Workgroup.
     
  10. brownizs

    brownizs MajorGeek

    WinNT & Win2k can only use Ctrl-Alt-Del when part of a Domain, not as a stand alone workstation. The great thing about WinXP is that Microsoft allows you to use Ctrl-Alt-Del in a standalone workstation environment for security purposes.

    The Local Security Policy in WinXP only disables the use of it, and this is only when using a SmartCard or part of a Domain. When a stand alone becomes part of a Domain, all policies on that workstation is overriden by the policies of the Domain, and due to the fact that when you implement Roaming User Profile policies on WinXP any policies are thus also overriden.
     
  11. evo_182

    evo_182 Private E-2

    Settings:
    System Key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
    Name: DisableCAD
    Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)
    Value: (0 = Require Ctrl+Alt+Delete, 1 = Disable)

    Settings:
    User Key: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
    System]
    Name: DontDisplayLastUserName
    Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)
    Value: (1 = remove username)

    thanks soo much for that

    i changed those 2 registies and control alt delete works great now

    thanks

    Dan
     
  12. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    Easier and safer than a regedit:
    Start -> Run -> type
    Code:
    control userpasswords2
    Go to Advanced tab -> Little checkey box that says "Require users to Press Ctrl+Alt+Del" :)
     
  13. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    @D3M3NT3D and @Coco:

    With XP (pro and home) at the "Welcome screen", try hitting CTL+ALT+DEL two times, you will get the old familiar logon screen.

    Or if you are logged on now, hit logoff, then when you reach the "Welcome Scree", CTRL+ALT+DEL two times.

    Anway, you can logon with any account this way.

    With pro, you can logon to a machine with the built in administrator account.

    With home, you can't log onto a machine with a built in administrator acount, unless you go through safe mode.

    There is absolutely NO need to be part of ANY domain! :)
     

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