Does a fan come with this CPU?

I may have made a small goof when ordering the parts for my new build. For some reason I assumed the cpu I ordered came with an appropriate fan, but I went back to check the specs there's no mention of one. This is my second build and I did have to order a cpu fan back in the day. Here's the link.

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-Pr...5KDY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298326856&sr=8-1

Thanks, and by the way, if anyone wants to link to a good article on building ones own rig, I'd appreciate it. It's been about five years and I'm pretty rusty--obviously.

 

Sorry to post such basic stuff, but from the photos on the site of my cpu something that looks like a fan seems to come with the cpu, but it's impossible to tell for sure. If not, how do I know what kind of fan to get for an i5-750? The building guides I've found so far talk about installing the cpu fan, but don't talk about how to *select* the best cpu fan.

Thanks again.

 

Virtually 100% of the time, retail-boxed processors come with a heatsink/fan - that's why they're named "retail-box" as opposed to "barebones" or "OEM", etc.

 

Thanks, Caliban. I suppose the worst that happens is it arrives without, and I wait impatiently for a week while the one I order arrives.

I've heard that sometimes the fan that comes with a CPU is the minimum needed to keep it from overheating. Since I occasionally put in six to eight hours of intensive gaming, would I do well to pick up a better version of the CPU fan?

I realize that it's the GPU (an Asus Radeon HD5850 in this case) that gets stressed (though I don't plan to overclock) in this scenario, and GPUs necessarily ship with good fans, so should I focus on maximizing airflow throughout the case?

 

You have to be careful about the stock heatsink/fans that ship with processors: some manufacturers' warranties are voided if you don't use their recommended setups.

That being said: more air is always good. Maximizing airflow through a case is always good.

I suggest sticking with the stock fan, load a good temp monitoring program to keep an eye on the heat, and if during your gaming you notice any anomalies, then consider adding some beefier cooling.

 

The website photos clearly show a heatsink assembly with a decent fan. For more info. go to the Intel website.

 

When you are looking to add an after-market, the main consideration is how it is mounted to the heatsync and board.

Some of them you have to do alot of modification to to make it possible to change the fan only, such as cutting rivits or plastic moldings ot break the fan loose, or changing the way the heatsync and fan mount onto the board.

Provided you have a heat sync fan that is easily seperatable, look at the patern of how it mounts, and the size. Is it a circle? Is it a square? What are the measurements (height & length / diameter, and width)? How many pins, Where does it connect?

You are looking for something the same diameter / length & width. If you have the clearance, you can use a thicker fan. However, instead of looking at just doing the fan, look at a complete heatsync and fan combo replacement.

Now and then Intel does make a great combo. I thought that I was gonna require a aftermarket heatsync or fan. It turns out intel did it right that time with the Q6600 I have. Other times, I have had to do the fan or both fan and heatsync. If you are going to replace one, I suggest just replacing both. You will get a superior heatsync, and chances are a better fan or more fan options.

Just be aware that switching the heatsync and or fan can and normally will void the warranty. Now that that is said read on if you want to take my suggestion.


You need:
Gloves, a dozen old business cards, thermal paste, a suitable heatsync and fan combo, what ever tools are required to remove / install.

To do it:
CAREFULLY remove the old fan and heatsync. Set aside, as you may want this later.

You will need to clean up the thermal paste (very messy, wear gloves and have some old business cards to spread evenly) on the CPU. Do this gently. NOTHING SHARP, HARD OR CHEMICALS!

Apply a small amount ( a small amount goes a long way.) of thermal paste on the heatsync. This should form a thin layer when the heatsync is set upon the CPU and locked in or tightened down.

Make sure that you set the heatsync on the CPU squarely and in the propper alignment. If you do not, you need to clean it ALL off and repeat until you do.

To locate a suitable heatsync and fan, Find out what socket motherboard you have. newegg or tigerdirect provide a good location for finding stats like this or to purchase them.

Look at the dimentions of the cooler and fan, compare to application. Look for the biggest CFM number with the lowest noise or dbA combination. The bigger the CFM, the more air it moves. The lower the dbA, the quieter the fan is. The next consider ation is 3 pin or 4 pin for fan cord. While it is possible to to use either, there are advantages and disadvantages to both.

3 pins, allow connection to the motherboard and allow bios and software control and monitoring, They however leech power off the motherboard, and tend to be weaker, pushing less air.

4 pins, connect to the power supply via molex. These perfom better, though are not monitorable. To control these requires the use of a fan controler unit.

Hope that is a little more complete anser to your question.

 

Yup. The CPU just arrived, and it does come with a respectable looking fan. On the other hand, the book it came with describes only how to work the lever and place the cpu in the proper position. The fan itself has, on the underside, what I take to be a copper heat sink. Attached to the heat sink are three neat stripes of grey materical. Why it's impossible for the booklet to tell what these are is beyond me... I assume they're some sort of heat transfer material, but I also recall when I built my other computer, in 2004, that this kind of material was considered inferior to the application of, say, Arctic Silver 5.

It's impossible to discern the thickness of these stripes of heat transfer material, so I can't tell if it's possible to scrape them off, clean the copper, then use Arctic Silver 5 instead of the stripes. I have to think scraping off the existing heat transfer material will void the warranty, though that's got to be better than a melted processor. OTOH, would Intel ship a heat sink and fan with a cpu that doesn't work?

 

That makes a lot of sense to me, Cal. It's unlikely the fan Intel ships with the CPU would be so inadequate that it all melts down before a good monitoring program kicks in. The mobo I bought is a good one, so I'll use the program that came with it to track core temperature. I'm assuming (hoping?) that it comes with a function that shuts down the computer if a set temperature is exceeded.

 

Nibbles,

Thanks for all the info--that's great to know. For the time being I'll use the stock fan and keep close track of the cpu temperature. Since the mobo is a good one, with what it claims is a good temp tracking system, if I go the route you describe I'll go with a three-pin fan so that I can track through the motherboard.

 

What is this Intel garbage?

Can someone please tell me why, when all I want to do is look at some of the specs for a cpu and fan that ships with a thoroughly and embarrassingly inadequate manual, intel is trying to make me register across multiple pages on their website?

What a disgrace.

 

Re: What is this Intel garbage?

Ah. And now I have to wait until they "approve" me. I'll never do business with these cretins again.

 

Good morning.

Those 3 stripes are thermal compound - just make sure there's no clear packing tape attached (similar to the tape on printer cartridges). When the heatsink is locked to the processor, the stripes will spread - even more so when the processor heats up.

Of course, you can always remove the compound and apply your own (eg: Arctic Silver). Use denatured alcohol to remove the stock paste, let dry, and apply a thin film of new paste.

Haha - "cretins"...:-D

 

Ok in answer to a few questions posted:

The three stripes of material on the bottom, are thermal paste, basically a cheaper inferior variety of the artic silver thermal paste. This does work alright. You can use it. It does not take alot of it to do the job.

To clean it off, you can use a old credit card to get most of it, and then rubbing alchohol on a lint free cloth or alchohol swabs. This will cut most pastes used. Be sure to let it dry completely before applying the artic silver.

I do personally replace it with artic silver when I build or replace the parts. If you used an AMD CPU I would suggest immediate replacement, as they do tend to run hotter than Intel CPUs, but this is not the case. If you dont have experiance, use what is provided, and monitor it. Cheap temp guages can be bought off most computer parts stores, use one of these to monitor it rather than software. These are alot more accurate.

As for the shutting down if they are overheating, this is a pretty standard feature on all the newer stuff whether it be motherboards, RAM, or CPUs. They will all shutdown, and almost all of them will shut down long before there is heat damage. If you get overheated, most of them will power on, and shut down right away. You should also hear some beeps. These are error beeps, hinting at your problem. Pay attention to the sounds, and paterns of them. They may hint where your problem is.

Intel does sell CPU / heatsync / fan combos. My Intel Q6600 I bought off newegg.com had everything. I am not sure if they do on all their CPUs but I do know that some of them are sold this way.

Any other questions about this, feel free to ask and I will do my best to get you a timely answer.

 

Thanks guys. I appreciate the help. So far so good--I checked the CPU temperature often the first couple of weeks and it was always low, and well within the proper range. Good to know the procedure in case I decide to go a different route or if the existing paste degrades over time and I need to replace it.

This is a great site!