Export Yahoomail To E-pim, Then From There To Gmail?

Hi, guys, I just downloaded E-PIM.

For starters:

• It's asking me to open an account, so can i enter any name & email I choose, such as Jane Doe, janedoe@Epim.com?
  
  
• Or need it be my real name?
  
  
• Or need it be the exact firstName-lastName & other data i've used to set up the Gmail account i wish to migrate to?

and that's just for starters... i don't know where to go from there, as i'm a newb at this, except for eons ago when Outlook had first come out, and it hadn't worked out from square one.

 

No.
Run EssentialPIM, click Tools > Account Settings... > Add and follow the instructions.

Here are screenshots of the various info you need to enter.



The PINK is your email address before the @yahoo.com

 

Thanks Eldon! Some followups:

Is it illegal to enter a pen name, as i've done with online emails?

Or can i assume Eldon Wessels is a pen name?

As for the pink-strip - assume my gmail address is:
janedoe@gmail.com
so...does the E-PIM email address from which i'd be migrating my emails to gmail need to be:
janedoe@epim.com? (or can it be XYZ@epim.com

I.E. can you just as successfully migrate:
XYZ@epim.com
to:
janedoe@gmail.com

P.S. The email client is free, correct? If so, shouldn't a pen name be OK? Such as, Eldon W rather than Eldon Wessels? The point being, to maintain privacy.

 

No.

No. It's my real name.

No. And no.
Your email address is your real email address.
Like minni@yahoo.com

Yes.

 

I'm suspecting minni that you may not have realised that by adopting an email client and using a POP3 account that you will be downloading all those years worth of emails to your hard drive, whereas at present they are stored on the yahoo servers? Also, having done so you would no longer be able to move all your old emails to gmail? As things stand now you could pull all your emails off the yahoo servers directly into gmail without any problem but that wouldn't be possible once you have downloaded them with POP3.

My advice, given your limited understanding of how email works, would be to leave well alone yahoo-wise and, if you don't want to stay with yahoo, to start using your existing gmail accounts for the future. You should also consider not using POP3 at all and using the more modern and flexible IMAP protocol, but perhaps that's for another day.

 

Earthling no, i was not aware of that. I had thought all along that downloading my emails to a client on my hdd would then enable me to upload all of it from there to gmail.

But i can't pull off the folders from yahoo to gmail! Or do you know of a way that can be done?

If I download into Advik, could they all then be imported from Advik into Gmail in an organized way?

Also, Eldon's response isn't quite clear to me. For example, since his image states "Account Settings - Yahoo Mail" - i wasn't sure if that was actually inside YahooMail, or if it was inside the setup of Epim.
Also, i'm still confused about the email addresses.
I.E. if my email address is janedoe@yahoo.com
does the client-setup address need to state janedoe@epim.com
or can the latter be "somethingelse@epim.com"

My main point is that i'm desperate to escape from Verizon-Oath, since my emails are filled with personal chats & vents with acquaintances that's none of their business. When i set up my email, at that time, Yahoo had seemed small-time & homey compared to how gmail was becoming, and people had been lauding it. That's how i got trapped.So even if it means the inconvenience of having to reference my old emails offline (or via a flash-drive, which i assume i can backup the HDD files onto??) it's still better than the alternative.

So maybe i should opt for the heftier Thunderbird which i assume has IMAP which may/or/not allow me to then upload to gmail? Are the instructions for setting up Thunderbird as easy as the above Epim demo's? And how much learning-curve is the rest of it?

The pressure to bail out by month's end is a nightmare. Not knowing which option to choose. Unremitting learning curves. Is there some reason that with all the brilliant stuff out there, nobody has been able to offer emergency software to safely let people bail out of such situations?

 

@minni, I think you must hold back running EssentialPIM.
I merely suggested this because then all your emails and contacts will be on your PC. You can then copy the database file and it's backup to a flash drive along with the portable version of EssentialPIM. You can then access your emails and contacts on any Windows PC.

First follow Method 1 in this article to get all your Yahoo emails and contacts into Gmail.
https://www.wikihow.com/Switch-from-Yahoo!-Mail-to-Gmail

 

But what about my Folders?
I keep coming back to that!
What about folders please?
I don't need contacts, i need folders.

I can't believe i'm the only one among thousands or millions to have this question?

 

Your folders will not be imported.
A folder can have any name and Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook, etc. don't recognize those names.
You'll have to move all emails from each folder to the Inbox.

BTW How many emails do you have?

 

Uh, but Earthling seemed to say above that:

Did you see my above question to him regarding that?

How? How best to get them organized in there?
OK, to be continued some other day.

 

Start by cleaning up your emails in Yahoo Mail.

Read the Tips over here for more info on the migrating process.
https://www.lifewire.com/import-your-yahoo-mail-messages-and-contacts-into-gmail-1172011

FWIW...
This is what my EssentialPIM looks like.
If both Microsoft and Yahoo close down right now, which is highly unlikely, I'll still have all my emails.

 

@minni Please forget about trying to push emails onto gmail as that isn't possible, either with or without your folders. Read the articles Eldon has linked you to and you will see that Gmail imports messages from other email servers, and in doing so will put them all in its Inbox with a new single label. You could improve your understanding of all of this by creating a new gmail account specifically for testing and then doing a bit of what-iffing for yourself.

I wouldn't recommend trying to set up an email client at present, it's a learning curve you don't need right now.

Happy New Year btw.

 

No!
Your email address in EssentialPIM (or any other email client) is your real email address.
And your password is your real email password.

 

Ah finally i'm beginning to get it - thanks! BTW, i'm feeling ongoingly run-down from all this (i had flu for a week which is still lagging), thus didn't want to touch the computer.

Meanwhile another MAJOR crisis cropped up, because these past hours i had decided to experiment by starting with my Junk email account (i.e. hypothetically i'll call it janedoe@yahoo.com

So i went to Gmail, went thru the steps such as entering janedoe@yahoo.com - and clicked the button to start the import process.

Well guess what? It did NOT import all my emails!

Yet, within Settings, it did state:
Initial import done. New messages will be forwarded daily (for 30 days).
Also, it stated:
0.07 GB (0%) of 15 GB used

Lets see if i can post some sorta picture. Hope to get back presently with a pic.

 

TO MY FRUSTRATION, DUE TO MAJORGEEK'S TIME-LIMITATION, PLEASE DISREGARD POST #14 ABOVE.

INSTEAD SEE MY BELOW FINAL EDIT. THANKS!

Ah finally i'm beginning to get it - thanks! BTW, i'm feeling ongoingly run-down from all this (i had flu for a week which is still lagging), thus didn't want to touch the computer.

Meanwhile another MAJOR crisis cropped up, because these past hours i had decided to begin experimenting with importing to Gmail from my Junk-Yahoomail account (i.e. hypothetically i'll call it janedoe@yahoo.com

So i went to Gmail, went thru the steps such as entering janedoe@yahoo.com - and clicked the button to start the import process.

Well guess what? It did NOT import all my emails!

Yet, within Settings, it did state:
Initial import done. New messages will be forwarded daily (for 30 days).
Also, it stated:
0.07 GB (0%) of 15 GB used

i mean, for crying out loud, the imports (both Inbox & SentMail) only go back to the year 2012, whereas inside my YahooMail they go back to the year 2002!
AND there's 63 pages of YahooMails - many of which seem to not have migrated to Gmail!

Also - note that i did not log out of either Gmail or Yahoomail. I kept both of them open on my FF browser, the past few hours.

I've decided that it would be difficult to give screenshots, because nothing is uniform, and too much editing required. (and no-end of scrolling involved for lots of repetitive Inbox JaneDoe@yahoomail.com's.

Would it be the same importing to Outlook.com?
It's a problem though, because i've over 100-gb in my Non-Junk yahoomail acct., so they would not all be accommodated, neither in gmail nor outlook.

 

P.S. i've scouted the www via keywords, and noted that others had the same experience as me, of not having all their emails imported via Gmail's import process.

Christopher Haley seemed to come up with a solution in this thread (wherein others had similar complaints)
...however, i don't know how to pull it off. Any clue?
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/u5nOCB0W_6k

 

EUREKA! It seems there's a bug in Gmail's program, because in Settings - it confusingly-prematurely states:
Initial import done blah blah.

So now, after waiting a longer period of time, an overhead-bar finally popped-up stating:
IMPORT COMPLETED (see my attachment)
YET the same "initial import done blah blah" message is displaying within Settings..

There's just something very confusing about their wording & interface, at least IMO.

 

To follow that method you would need to set up a good email client such as Thunderbird and in TBird you would set up your Yahoo account as a POP3 account. This would remove your emails from the Yahoo servers and save them on your computer. There is an option to leave a copy on the server which I suggest you would not take in view of your privacy concerns. However your #17 arrived while I was typing and I'm sure you will want to let that continue for the time being.

 

Is there a way to close my YahooMail Account in a way which would delete everything in there in one fell swoop?
In other words:
An Option to click CLOSE (which would mean:
"yoo hoo, yahoo, please delete ALL my data from your servers, leaving nothing left".
And who says they don't keep copies of everyone's stuff on their servers anyway?

I think my Qs re: Tbird need to wait, given the complications of needing to know SMTP numbers and so forth.
It would also be a bit silly to set up my Yahoomail addresses on Tbird, if i'm in the tedious process of attempting to bail out of there, don't you think?

 

P.S. Just so y'all know, I might never be able to get into the MajorGeek Forum again, here's why:

I changed my MajorGeek contact info to my gmail address, and have been waiting for email-verification from majorgeeks. But after waiting & waiting....zilch.

That didn't happen to me with another forum whereby i just got done verifying my gmail address successfully. Very frustrating. In fact, i tried re-entering my MajorGeek password again to play it safe & ensure the verification email arrives.

OK - never mind - i got back in.
So why the confusion?
Because the other forum sent the eVerification to Gmail.
MajorGeeks sent the eVerification to Yahoomail. Go figure.

 

Not silly in the least. The purpose is to enable you to remove your messages from the server as, apart from simply deleting them, there isn't any other way. You have previously given the impression you want to save all your messages but you do realise you could simply delete them?

 

I may or may not get it.

So to clarify, does POP sorta act like a "suctioning vacuum-cleaner" which "suctions" peoples' emails out of the servers of email-hosts, and transfers them into the receiving end of offline email clients or into the receiving end of alternate online-hosts?

And does manual deletion (after conducting the migration process) accomplish the same thing, except manually? ...To the extent that they're gone forever from host-servers?

 

Yes, that's near enough what POP or POP3 do, and given your scepticism about the lack of privacy of your stuff on ISP servers it might be the best solution for you. But be aware, once downloaded, you can only view them on the device they have been downloaded to. You can, as I've said, leave a copy on the server but that defeats the object.

I'm not sure whether Gmail moves your messages onto its servers or just copies them - you would need to check that. If it just copies them, very doubtful imo, then you would need to go in and delete them yourself. Only the ISPs themselves know whether deletion is complete and permanent but personally I think it is.

 

It must have been something like this that started you off down this road, and understandably. I only use Yahoo for share portfolio monitoring so I'm going to have to find an equally useful alternative.

 

POP & IMAP sound difficult due to all the unique i.d. numbers required to be entered.
Seems people say that IMAP is preferable.

Some questions to clarify:

With POP or IMAP - do they give you these options?
(1) delete all emails from server you're migrating from
(2) leave all emails on server you're migrating from

Also:
Do you mean that even after you manually delete emails from yahoomail or gmail, the email-hosts might disregard your wishes, and still keep copies on their servers? Is there anywhere that states their policies regarding this?

 

Yep. And i don't think their MANAGE-OPTIONS offering was so clearcut. Who even remembers.

My main problem now, is that Gmail only offers 15gb storage, whereas my Non-Junk Yahoomail as of now has over 100gb in it! Housecleaning it all is literally going to sicken me next week.

Thus far, only my Junk yahoomail was attended to (as per my EUREKA post).

But the nightmare still looms ahead. I kid you not, that too much computer time sickens me. Not just flu-like allergy, but also prolonged sitting in front of computer triggers my neuropathy (which a neurologist dx me with), and my entire right-leg from above-knee downward was feeling tingling electric spikes and oncoming numbness. For days. So i'm terrified.

 

For the average user this means 5 million emails. Or 600 years of inbox usage.
You'll have to set time aside every day and clean the inbox.

 

I agree with Eldon - you are just going to have to clean up your messages before attempting a migration anywhere.

 

Alot of the content in my primary email is related to the automated notices generated by Ebay. Also Paypal. It's a looming nightmare, and with all sorts of distractions.
Such as my experience a bit earlier:
https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/can-a-png-image-within-a-gmail-have-infected-me.319861/

 

OK, guys, believe it or not i just barely made it in time to midnite to get everything transferred & deleted. Indeed it's been a nightmare, with all sorts of mini-glitches all because the limitation of only 15gb made me concerned enough to split up everything & migrate into FIVE (no less) of my gmail accounts. And that makes for lots of confusion.

One for virtual-life forums, such as "minni" etc.
One for real life such as med.inquiries, etc.
One for real life family/friends
One for real life political (emails to local senator, highway dept. etc.)
One for real life Banks, ISP, Ebay/PP, Amazon, Walmart etc.

I probably ought to whittle it down to three or two, but nervous about that due to the 15gb limitation. Mind you, I still have ALL my various folders (as was in my primary real-life yahoomail acct.) now residing in my primary real-life gmail acct....
...though i'm confused as to whether the med.inquiries gmail acct. should indeed be more primary than my bank/store, or family/friends one!

It was so difficult. I needed to change my email address in so many banks, stores, forums & sites (still not done probably with forums & sites). Also still not done setting up the horribly tedious Gmail-Privacy settings, figuring out whether/which to setup forwarding on.

There was also confusion, because unexpectedly, Gmail imported EVERYTHING, including my various folders NOT JUST inbox/sentmail. Nowhere online does anyone explain that.
...At one point during the process, due to mental exhaustion, i had migrated a batch from my YahooInbox, which i had just migrated previously to a diff. Gmail acct. So i needed to delete the batch from the account it wasn't intended for.

I'm attaching a pic, to show how confusing the migrated stuff is - in at least one of my Gmail accts.

Another confusion i have is this:

According to Lifewire, (How to permanently delete your Yahoo Mail account)... once you close your account, Yahoo allows anyone from the public to use your email address as theirs, which means that future incoming mails would come to them, which isn't so private (and imo, shouldn't be legal).
...But the alternative, is that any incoming mails would get shared with Yahoo-Oath's partners.
...So which is the lesser of the 2 evils?