Extensive XP Boot-up times on a Sony VAIO

Discussion in 'Malware Help - MG (A Specialist Will Reply)' started by mqkcm, Oct 29, 2004.

  1. mqkcm

    mqkcm Private E-2

    A friend dropped off his laptop the other day and it's been a nightmare since. I'm attempting to get it up to speed without having to reinstall XP. Although if it were my own, I would have done so a long long time ago. Reinstalling though, if need be, will be the last option. I was just worried about all his data. Anyway, here's the breakdown:

    System Specs:
    *Sony Vaio PCG-Z1RAP Notebook
    --Intel Centrino 1.5GHz
    --512 Ram
    --Hitachi DK23EA-60 HD
    --Windows XP Pro (SP2)

    *Basic Observable OS Symptoms:
    -Normal Mode:
    --Boot-up times averaging 25-28 minutes (breakdown shown below)
    --Extremely slow system performance (~60 seconds to pull up MyComputer:properties window)
    --Hard Drive seems to be constantly accessed (~90% activity)
    --No obviously suspicious processes shown in Taskmanager, shows 0%-5% cpu usage

    -Safe Mode with network support:
    --similar to symptoms of normal mode

    -Safe Mode:
    --Boot-up times averaging 5-6 minutes (breakdown shown below)
    --System performace appears to be on par (to my knowledge--I'm used to a P3-500)
    --Hard drive activity seems normal

    *Boot-up running timer breakdowns (I'm sure there are applications for this)
    -Normal Mode:
    timer started after bios splash screen
    01:00 White line appears
    02:30 finally starts moving
    02:50 Windows Splash screen appears
    05:35 screen goes blank
    14:00 Screen breifly goes black (as if shut off)
    16:00 Mouse pointer appears (on black background)
    18:15 Blue Welcome screen appears "Windows is starting up"
    19:15 "Welcome"
    23:55 Welcome jingle wav plays
    24:40 Desktop background image appears
    27:00 Taskbar appears
    28:00 Icons begin to appear

    -Safe Mode (no network support):
    only noted files with what seemed extensive load times
    0:50 load ntoskrnl.exe
    2:20 finish ntoskrnl.exe
    2:25 config\system
    4:22 finished config\system
    4:40 KSecDD.sys
    5:00 finished KSecDD.sys
    5:05 agp440.sys
    5:30 finished agp440.sys
    6:00 system up and running

    Action taken so far and other misc. observations:
    At first when I recieved the computer I attempted to do a few scans for spyware. He had told me he had recently scanned with McAffee and that it took a long time but it didn't find anything. Because the abnormal boot hangs, I figured it might have been an XP configuration problem (at that time, he was on SP1). I attempted to update to SP2 the system was running way too slow and would abort after hours. After realizing safe mode (without network support) ran much smoother, I managed to update to SP2. Normal reboot did not change. Downloaded and installed the rest of windows updates, still no improvement. Ran Stinger in Normal Mode and it found nothing after a 13 hour scan.

    Ran Spybot in safe mode and cleaned a few misc. bots. Ran McAffee VirusScan, found nothing. Found this site. Followed the spyware, virus removal sticky as best as I could--I had to run in non-network safe mode. So I substituted McAffee VirusScan at the time, which found nothing. Ran Stinger again, found nothing. First run of AdAware found 180Solutions, Bowserraid, CoolWebSearch, Win32.Backdoor.Jeem. SpyBot reported minimal possible hijackers. Nothing else found with other scanners. Rebooted in safe mode w/network. Boot time still rediculous. Downloaded updates for AdAware and SpywareBlaster; nothing newer available for SpyBot. Couldn't d/l McAffee VirusScanner update due to lack of log-in info (but its DAT is dated 10/27/04). Attempted to scan with TrendMicro's Online scan--I let it scan the boot and system areas and that's it (starting to lose patience), found nothing, canceled. Rebooted in non-network safe mode. AdAware cleaned AltnetBDE, CasinoPalazzo, MyWay.Speedbar.

    Okay, now I'll probably redo your process using the online scanners despite knowing the scans will take over 24 hours. I just wanted to post just incase you guys think it might be something else, as I do, because of the abnormal boot process. To me, I think I've somewhat narrowed it down to "something dealing with the network access drivers--perhaps a worm of some sort infecting system/boot files" or "some other system configuation problem--ntoskrnl.exe problem or infection". The hard drive is fine according to Hitachi's diagnostic scanner and the Phoenix BIOS is up to date with what I could find off of Sony's site. On the safe mode w/ network boot-up I noticed it hangs extensively on agp440.sys file. I don't have the exact breakdown noted as I'm kind of getting frustrated (Although I'm about to reboot it to do the online scans, so I suppose I can note where exactly it hangs). I've also installed the latest video drivers.

    The only thing that keeps an infection in mind is that when he dropped it off on the 26th, he didn't know when he last updated his VirusScanner. Now, when I tried to update, I couldn't log on to download it because I didn't have his log-in info. After installing SP2, and doing other scans, I finally checked and noticed that the VirusScanner said its DAT file creation date is 10/27/2004. I don't use McAfee on my own computer so I'm not completely familliar with how it works, but despite not being able to download the updates manually, is it possible that McAfee automatically d/l and updated itself (during one of those overnighters when I tried to install SP2 via web)?? Or is there a virus that's beating McAfee and modifying its files?

    Sorry for the novel, but I thought I'd give as much information as possible. And thank you for anyone that took the time to read through it all and offer any advice.

    Mike
     
  2. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Mike,

    For you future reference, it is not a good idea to update to XP SP2 on a system having any form of malware problems. It can usually make things worse. It is much better idea to fix all current problems first and then do the update. That being said, I would like to see your HijackThis log file from the PC.

    You should read the tutorial in this Sticky thread NO HIJACK THIS LOG FILES BEFORE READING THIS: HJT Tutorial & LOG File Posting

    Now post a HijackThis as a .txt file attachment to your message. All running programs should be closed, including your web browser, e-mail. Close before running Hijack This!

    Do NOT run Hijack This from the Desktop, a temp folder, or a sub-folder of C:\Documents and Settings, or choose to run it directly from the downloaded ZIP file. Place it in its own folder, for example C:\Program Files\HJT
     
  3. mqkcm

    mqkcm Private E-2

    This log was taken in safe mode with network access, which shows the same symptoms as normal mode. Thanks.
     

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  4. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Post a log from normal boot mode. Make sure you are not using HijackThis's ability to ignore items. I want to be able to see everything.

    Did you set all the about:blank options or was this from a hijacker?
     
  5. mqkcm

    mqkcm Private E-2

    Log will be posted in roughly 30 mins.

    Unless the about:blank options were set by one of the scanners, then I'm assuming it was from a hijacker. I don't recall setting those myself. IE used to open up to Yahoo.com before I did all the scans, now I believe it opens up to Google.com--a change which I did not make. And AboutBuster (assuming that's what it's related to) did not find anything on its scan.
     
  6. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    about:Buster will change your start page to www.google.com since it has no way of determining what it really is supposed to be (at least no without asking you, but there is no code for that in the program).
     
  7. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    If you did not change them to about:blank then use Tools, Internet Options, Program, Reset Web Settings. Then go back to the General tab and set you home page to what is desired.
     
  8. mqkcm

    mqkcm Private E-2

    Well, the IE homepage is the least of my worries at the moment, but thanks, =)

    Here's the log from a normal boot (ignore list is empty and unchecked ignore safe urls). Any ideas?
     

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  9. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    You should have followed my directions! I wanted to make sure there was no hijacker at work here.

    Run HijackThis and select the following lines but DO NOT CLICK FIX until you exit all browser sessions including the one you are reading in right now:
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer,SearchURL = http://www.google.com
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = about:blank
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = about:blank
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://www.google.com
    R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.com
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://www.google.com
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://www.google.com
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = about:blank
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://www.google.com
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.com
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = about:blank
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = about:blank
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,(Default) = about:blank
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,(Default) = about:blank
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) = about:blank
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,SearchURL = http://ie.search.msn.com
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page_bak = http://www.sony.com/vaiopeople
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = iexplore

    And then run the Reset Web Settings, I requested.

    No reboot in normal mode. And tell me if anything changed.

    Also, check these out:
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324764
    http://ianwij.com/weblog/archive/2004/02/01/Windows_XP_hang_loading_agp440sys.aspx
     
  10. mqkcm

    mqkcm Private E-2

    Oh sorry, my bad. I thought you were just telling me how to set my homepage.

    I made the HJT fixes as directed and reset IE web settings. It's rebooting as I'm typing here and is still taking a considerable amount of time. It only now reached the XP splash screen and I restarted 5 mins ago.


    I looked at the USB update but it wouldn't allow it because it was made for SP1. As far as disabling the agp440.sys goes, I'll have to wait for an XP cd unless there is a way to access the console without one. But even so, would doing such a thing be necesarry? His laptop was working fine a few months ago, what would cause a need to suddenly have to disable one of the system drivers like this?

    And thank you for taking the time to help in solving this problem, chaslang. I really appreciate it as I'm fresh out of ideas on what to do.
     
  11. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Try two slightly different boots:

    1) Boot in safe mode without network. How is this boot time?

    2) Physically disconnect your Internet connection (unplug the cable ethernet cable from your DSL or Cable modem or unplug your telephone line for analog modem ). Now boot in normal mode. How is the boot time?

    Have you run an Error check on the drive lately?
     
  12. mqkcm

    mqkcm Private E-2

    As stated in my original post, the boot up time for safe mode without network is around 6 minutes. I've already checked the hard drive with both XP's scan and the HDD manufacturer's errorscanning software and they both reported no problems.

    Booting up in normal mode without the ethernet plugged in makes no difference to the ~30 minute boot times.
     
  13. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Your original message stated the following, "After realizing safe mode (without network support) ran much smoother".

    I wanted to see if it still was better in safe mode. When you said ran much smoother, did that mean 6 minutes originally.

    Then later you said, " On the safe mode w/ network boot-up I noticed it hangs extensively on agp440.sys file".

    So that implied that there loading network drivers caused a hang (or slow down). Plus, I was not sure if anything changed at all after you put SP2 in.

    Have you checked for proper BIOS settings based on documentation for the PC?

    Since the PC still appears slow and the hard drive is being accessed a lot even when doing nothing, I would like to have your download a filesystem monitoring tool. Download FileMon from Sysinternals.com.

    When you run FileMon you'll probably be surprized at how much your system is already doing while you're not doing anything. As long as the disk isn't thrashing (it's possible that it's not even being hit at this point), it's all quite normal. Let FileMon run.
    As soon as you hear your hard disk thrashing when you think it shouldn't be, press CTRL+E in FileMon to stop the capture. The last few screens should be full of disk access by the offending application.

    What we may determine is that this is expected behaviour for your system. However we might also decide that whatever is running is unwanted, and we'll work through the steps to turn it off or remove it.

    You can even save the log to a file if necessary.
     

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