External floppy drive causing system failure.

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by tinbelly, May 30, 2010.

  1. tinbelly

    tinbelly Private E-2

    I have an Acer Aspire laptop and a Dell D800 laptop.

    I have a Packard Bell and Dell usb external floppy disk drive.

    The 2 floppy drives cause a serious system failure on both computers.

    My partner also has a Dell laptop.

    The 2 floppy drives install and work perfectly on it.

    Why won't they work on my laptops especially the Dell?
    Is there anything I can do?.

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. shnerdly

    shnerdly MajorGeek

    A better definition of the differences between the systems that work and the ones that don't would be helpful. Things like operating systems, computer model numbers, USB 1.0 or 2.0 on which computers, etc.
     
  3. tinbelly

    tinbelly Private E-2

    Hi Schnerdly

    The Acer is an Aspire 3660 series.
    The Dell is a Latitude D800.

    Both work on windows Xp with usb 2.0 I believe.

    My partners Dell is a Latitude D810, which also works on windows Xp and usb 2.0 ports.:wave
     
  4. voodoo3rd

    voodoo3rd Corporal

    Are these drives your using bus powered off the USB port or do they have a separate supply?
    It's possible that the power from those USB ports is bottoming out as the motor spins up and the
    D810 machine has a slightly stiffer supply that copes better with the surge current, the way to
    prove or disprove this would be to plug the drive into a powered USB hub.
    When you say 'serious system failure' do you mean it goes off or blue screens with any error warnings?
     
  5. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    For the moment, disconnect every USB device from your laptop - mouse (use the touchpad in a pinch), printer, external hd. It could be that your laptop just doesn't have enough power left for the USB floppy.
    If you have no USB devices connected and it still fails, then I'm as confused as you are as to why the floppy drive would cause your computer to fail.
     
  6. tinbelly

    tinbelly Private E-2

    Hello people I think things have just got worse!!

    The laptop doesn't have any other usb hardware connected.
    The floppy drives were connected direct to laptop not a powered supply.

    When I connect them the screen goes black with a lot of writing and shuts down in a second (no chance to read anything) then reboots stating the computer has recovered from a serious system error.

    Today I have switched the computer on and all I am getting is a black screen, windows is not loading, if it is, it is hiding.:confused
     
  7. voodoo3rd

    voodoo3rd Corporal

    If you have the XP disk you could try doing a repair install. If your lucky the floppy drive might also
    start working.
     
  8. tinbelly

    tinbelly Private E-2

    Have now got windows back from black screen by pressing F8. Guesswork.:confused

    Don't have windows disks to be able to perform repair.
     
  9. tinbelly

    tinbelly Private E-2

    Update.

    When computer shuts down I have following Info:-
    A problem has been detected and windows has shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

    Stop 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF7BE7A05, 0xF7C8A548, 0xF7C8A548)

    USBSTOR.SYS-Address
    F7BE7A05 base at F7BE7000
    Datestamp 480254d1
     
  10. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Here's how 1 person solved the USBSTOR.sys problem
    http://www.wapopia.com/blog/2009/08/20/download-usbstorsys/
    Might I suggest you, if you can get a USB flash drive to work, copy the USBSTOR from the Dell 810 and put it on the Dell 800.
    If no USB device works, you might just have to trust the link above and download the file from there. Please, scan it before you move it into the proper directory to be sure it is clean. Also look at the size and version and compare what is on the Dell 810.
     
  11. tinbelly

    tinbelly Private E-2

    Hello
    I have the same usbstor as the dell 810.
    I have run sfc scannow and it keeps asking me to insert xp professional sp3 disk but the computer didn't come with any disks and it is xp home installed not xp pro.
     
  12. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    You've determined that USBstor is correct and the floppies work on a Dell 810 but not your two laptops. I'd start looking for software on your two computers that is not installed on the Dell 810 that is causing the problems you have.
    Since the floppies both work on the 810, it isn't bad floppy drives. Since the Windows USBstor file is exactly the same, it isn't a windows USB problem. Therefore, it has to be something else. Since it fails on two different brands of laptops you own, then software would be the next place to look.

    Dell usually installs its own OEM version of windows so the only disk you may have success in getting the 800 to work with is an XP Home disk from another Dell computer. (I'm not 100% positive on this. Someone who has repaired windows installs on lots of computers will be able to give you a better answer).

    Computers that do not come with windows disks (now probably close to 100% of the computers sold in the US) generally come with a restore/recovery partition. This would be a last ditch effort because it would wipe the computer and set it back to how it arrived from the factory.
     
  13. tinbelly

    tinbelly Private E-2

    I uninstalled all software I put into the Dell laptop so it is back to how it was when I had it.

    Reinstalled the floppy drive, but then I had a message saying ' A problem occurred during installation, your hardware may not work properly'.

    I went into device manager and there was a yellow circle with exclamation mark next to the floppy drive.

    I uninstalled then reinstalled again and received the message 'windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. Driver may be corrupt or missing (code 39). :cry
     
  14. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Time to email Dell and find out why a floppy drive will not work on a "new" factory restored computer.
     

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