External HDD

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by dell1705user, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. dell1705user

    dell1705user Corporal

    I would like to purchase a new external HDD. Are there any particular specs. I should be aware of in making this decision. I've never purchased anything for a computer, hardware-wise, other than an actual lappy. :D

    Thanks.
     
  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    What would you be using this external drive for and how much space would you need it to be as you have a few options.


    1. Ultra portable HDs that power via USB, these are small and light and do not need external power, smaller capacities though in the 250GB and below range, great for moving between loacations

    WD Passport drives as an example of these, but Seagate etc all make small USB powered external HDs ( these are my fave )
    http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=262

    2. Large external drives, still portable, but are generally larger and heavier than ultra portables and have a secondary power pack, upwards to 500GB+ range for capacity, not as easy as the small ultra portables to lug around as they are more desktop externals, but do offer larger storage as a plus

    WD My Books
    http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=224



    *note capacities are off top of my head to what I know personally available, other makers or indeed WD may have larger.
     
  3. hopperdave2000

    hopperdave2000 MajorGeek

    Keep in mind the larger ones requires their own power supply and power source (like the wall socket). The smaller ones are powered off the USB port and are much more portable. I have 2 external drives that I "built" myself; an 80gb and a 100gb. I purchased the enclosures for about $10 each and used laptop hard drives so I wouldn't have to deal with the AC adapter and needing a wall socket every time I wanted to access the drive(s). If portability isn't an issue and the external is just for backup on a home PC and won't be moved around very often, then a larger drive may be the way to go. Using a desktop hard drive (3.5 inch) will offer MUCH more storage space. Laptop drives max out at under 200gb (160gb is the biggest I think), where desktop drives are up to (and maybe larger than) 750gb. Also, if you're not building your own, you'll have to decide if you want firewire, USB, or eSATA. I prefer USB 'cuz it's totally universal and all PC's have USB ports so I won't have any problems hooking up my drives to other PC's. So keep that in mind; eSATA is fast, but few PC's will support it. Same goes for firewire; it's not as rare as eSATA, but not as common as USB.... let us know what you decide to do.

    hd2k

    I guess Halo and I were typing replies at the same time; he beat me to it ;)
     
  4. dell1705user

    dell1705user Corporal

    I am interested in a USB connected smaller HD either a 80Gb or 100Gb. Would this use up a lot of resources on the computer while running? I simply want to use it so that music, movies, other entertainment don't clutter/take up space on my laptop. Could you also explain to me what are firewire, USB, or eSATA are and their difference? Are these external HDD connection types to the main computer?

    Having said that, anything else you all would recommend?
     
  5. dell1705user

    dell1705user Corporal

    You know, having said I was looking for b/w 80 and 100GB, this might be pretty small for a secondary HDD correct?
     
  6. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Firewire, USB and eSATA are all connection types, save me typing a lot, I lazy and will link to descriptions on WIKI

    Firewire
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireWire

    USB
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

    eSATA
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

    USB is the main common one, but eSATA is becoming more popular on mid to high end motherboards, but not noticed many eSATA externals as yet, but then I not looked either.

    The main differences are basicall in transfer speeds, under Comparisons with other interfaces in the eSATA wiki page you have a table of the transfer speeds each of them max out at.

    How much data do you have to transfer aready to go from your main HDD now? if over 100GB then a larger drive is worth it, however, what I decided to do and more for portability was to go with WD Passport drives and get a few of them in the 120-160GB range ( didnt have the 250GB avail at the time ) and put Music on one, Images on another and General backups and data on the third.

    Choice also depends on if your going to be moving this external around between PCs in the house or friends PC etc or just needing a personal backup drive for say your desktop and laptop?


    If needing to be really portable then many the multiple small USB powered HDs would be best option, if not needing to move the external HDD around alot then the likes of the MY BOOKS are perfect for upwards of 500GB storage, or Get a 300GB+ Powered MY Book type HDD and a small 80-100GB passport drive for times when you need to easily move data from PCs adn various locations, say school, work, Uni, friends etc

    All comes down to what you wish to spend too, but I have hopefully given you some ideas to work with.
     
  7. dell1705user

    dell1705user Corporal

    Yes, thank you for taking the time to explain in such detail (even if there were a few corners cut (Wiki) :p:D)

    Again, thank you.
     
  8. dell1705user

    dell1705user Corporal

    Quick question, while I'm thinking of it...

    A friend of mine had a smaller, portable 80GB external and he said that you shouldn't set it in a vertical position(perpendicular to the ground) and that it should lay horizontal (parallel to the ground) so as to not wear out the head and actuator arm.

    Is this truth or myth?
     
  9. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    May have been true with older HDs but the modern ones, can and are happy vertical or Horizontal, many PC makers do have drives located in the smaller PC cases in the horizontal position.

    Heads on HDs dont wear out as they do not touch the drive platters if they did you would have data corruption and a dead HD as if a drive head hits platter it goes crunch....... they float above the platters.

    I'd be a bit buggered with the portable HD I have hooked to my PC now as its at a 30deg angle and at times if hooked to laptop could be in any position.
     
  10. dell1705user

    dell1705user Corporal

    I read that if I opted for an eSATA type connection, I would need an adapter. Is this the case? Also, are the speed differences b/w USB and eSATA that noticeable?
     
  11. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Yes you would need if your motherboard does not have an external eSATA port on the back an eSATA controller PCI card.

    Yes eSATA is quicker for data transfer than that of Firewire and USB2.0, noticable I dont know as I dont have both as yet to compaire but in the data of the two connections and reading a few reviews then yes you will see a ballpark 30-40% data transfer speed increase over USB, as real world figures over the max the connection types will do vary.

    eSATA externals are though more expensive than USB, that coupled with the cost of a eSATA PCI controller card as well.
     

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