Extra Hard Drive Not Found????????????

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by biggerjim, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. biggerjim

    biggerjim Private E-2

    Hello all. After much hair pulling, swearing, jumping up and down and various other methods of generally not being happy, i finally got my old pc running again. C:\ and cd drive working fine thru primary ide. No probs with secondary ide as long as i attach 1 hard drive. If i attach a second drive it is not found. I have tried swapping ide cables and power plugs. Both of the drives work as long as only 1 of them is attached. I have tried them in various combinations with different cables. Please help if you can as this is baffling the hell out of me. I am running xp pro sp2.:confused:cry
     
  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Check that the jumper on the second ide drive is set to slave and the first drive is master.
     
  3. sosaman

    sosaman Sergeant Major

    or "cs" setting. my home comp, didn't like master/slave combo (but, mine was on the same cable). - sos
     
  4. Dan Penny

    Dan Penny Specialist

  5. Appzalien

    Appzalien Staff Sergeant

    For IDE hard drive as well as cd/dvdrom drives here are the rules:
    1. Master drive goes on the terminating end of the ribbon.
    2. Slave goes in the middle.
    3. Jumpers must be set correctly as master with slave/master alone or just plain master (depending on the hard drive type) and slave for both drives to work together.

    If your not familiar with drive jumpers there is usually a legend on top of the drive that will describe the positions and the pins that need to be connected. On the back of the drive usually near the power connection you will see sets of pins ::::. and depending on where you place the little plasic jumper, the drive will be set to what the legend describes for that position. If there is a pin alone as I indicated with the little pins diagram its for when the slave setting is actually no jumper at all, you can put the plastic jumper on the single pin for safe keeping while not actually connecting anything.
     
  6. Dan Penny

    Dan Penny Specialist

    This scenario only applies to CS jumper settings. Contrary to popular belief, if you're using Master/Slave jumper positions, the drive can go on either cable connector.
     
  7. Appzalien

    Appzalien Staff Sergeant

    Thats not true, as a matter of fact CS or Cable Select is named that way because it automatically sets the end ribbon drive to master and middle drive to slave for you (if both drives are set as CS anyway). And I have seen so many problems solved when they get this rule right it seems your the one who has the wrong unpopular belief. Maybe 1 out of 50 systems have an autocheck embedded in their chipset to set the OS drive as master no matter where it is and on those it seems to work but is still not correct.
     
  8. Dan Penny

    Dan Penny Specialist

    I don't refute this. I said the same thing;


    From; http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/Singl-Master-and-Slave-Drives-and-Jumpering.htm

    And from; http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confJumpering-c.html (Basically the same article, but older.)

    There are documents which state differently, due to standardization factors, but this is the only reason. I've done it, many times, because of drive placement in different towers. I always use M/S settings over CS. Try it before you state that I'm wrong.
     

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