FrontPage 2003 Question

I've got this website I'm in charge of, and I'm required to use FrontPage. Which is fine, but I've noticed a couple of problems.

One is that any web effects that work in IE do NOT work in Firefox. My page title "flies" in from the right-hand side of the screen, in lieu of the evil Flash the council insists I use (which I refuse to).

The second one is the text colour. 90% of the page is formatted as black text, which is how it shows up in FrontPage and IE. But in FF, about half of it is dark blue, and quite randomly placed.

I'm completely at a loss. The fly-in isn't that big a deal, I guess, but the text bugs the crap out of me. Any suggestions that don't involve using other software or any other non-helpful obnoxious solutions are welcome.

The page in question, if that helps any: http://www.miaflcio.org/UnionLabel/index.htm

 

What flash? As in macromedia flash?

BTW, the text next to your logo, doesn't show in: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060816 Minefield/3.0a1 ID:2006081604 [cairo]

Then again, who really uses alpha version of FF, except for me?

IE7+ (vista) shows up properly, with the wierd text scrolling effect.

I'll ask a friend at work if he can suggest something. Since he loves FF, and typically fixes issues that arise within sites that are not compliant for FF, even with templates that don't work with FF. Though, you will have to wait for about 12 hours or so, for the reply.

 

Yep, as in Macromedia Flash. I spent way too many years on dialup to even consider inflicting that on anyone.

12 hours ain't no thing...I've been fighting with it for at least a week. That different colour text is about to drive me off my rocker. There is no good reason that I can find for it. At this point, any help from any source in whatever time frame is absolutely perfect.

 

*bump*

 

All right. One more bump, and then I'll assume no one here has a clue, either. This'll be the first time y'all let me down on a question.

 

Frontpage is infamous for creating pages that are unnecesarily large and non standards-compliant.

I'd say if you could, use NVU or Dreamweaver.

 

Yeah, thanks. Not helpful, though, as I don't get to pick software. What I need is a way to fix the problem I'm having with my existing software, not to be told to use something else.

The thing is, on further research, the text shows up properly in every other browser anyone I know has, it's JUST Firefox that has it the wrong colour.

I am leaning toward blaming Firefox rather than FrontPage at this point, since there are no issues with other browsers.

 

I'm telling you, Frontpage just sucks and if you must use it, then you can forget having the page work correctly with standards-compliant browsers.

 

Thank you, that was helpful. The problem is ONLY with Firefox. Not Opera. Not Dillo. Not Avant. Not IE. Not Enigma.

Anybody else have a real solution?

 

Switch to Page Source view.

Code snippet from the site

Code:

<p align="center" style="margin: 0"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2">
      Blanche Dame</font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="#000000"><b>, 
      Financial Secretary</b></font>
      </p>

Notice where the color attribute is in relation to the text.

You will need to manually edit the source either in Notepad++ or use the source view in Frontpage.

It should look more like this:

Code:

<p align="center" style="margin: 0"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="#000000">
      Blanche Dame, Financial Secretary</b></font>
      </p>

 

HA!!!! THANK YOU!

I must've looked at that three dozen times and totally missed it. I knew there was something funny about it, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

Thank you!!!!!!

 

You're welcome.

I know how fustrating it can get when something doesn't look the way you want. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes is all that is needed.

 

The inline css in the p tag is invalid.

margin takes 4 parameters for top left bottom and right (not sure of the order)

CSS styles must end with a ;

To apply a style to a specific margin use margin-top, margin-left etc.

<p style="text-align:center; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;">
or
<p style="text-align:center; margin-left: 0px;">

would be more proper.

 

Honestly, as long as the margins are correct (and they are, in all browsers), I'm not too interested in editing a whole lot of the FP code. I volunteer to do this website, they don't get my full effort. I do get it, though, you're right, and I do appreciate you pointing it out.

There are some issues that drive me batty and I will fix, though.

The problem now is that the entire freaken left column is in bold type. I got the blue to go away, but I cannot to save my life get the bold to go away. It's not as obnoxious as it could be...but again, it's a Firefox-only issue.

All the code I see quite clearly has </b> in the proper place, it just doesn't come up that way in FF.

 

I've just had a look at the source lol, I wouldn't want to go digging in there either, FP has put tonnes of redundant code in. Without digging too much its going to be hard to find whats causing it, (I don't have FF installed looks ok in maxthon and IE though)

Possibly you just have too many opening or closing < B > tags, IE is kind of nice in ignoring errors in html but FF is a lot stricter

 

I just viewed it in Firefox.
If it's any consolation, it's a PLUS for folks with poor vision that eyeglasses can't help.
I say it's a wrap.

 

i'd consider centring the page a little though I think the 2 column theme would look better if it didn't align left. (I am viewing on a 1280 x 1024 res though)

 

ROFL! Ain't that the truth!

Hmmm...something to consider, I guess. Although I did like the contrast of having important things in bold and the rest not. At any rate, it's going to stay there for a while, because my brain has a cramp down the middle from wading through the code.

It aligns left? How...odd. *sigh* It looks centered on all my machines, but then I don't have any above 1024 x 768. I'll have to take a peek the next time I'm at the office.

Thanks for the input! I really appreciate it. I inherited this thing three years ago from a woman who didn't care (and took a FP template to make it, near as I can tell). I've completely revamped about 90% of it so far. It's just those couple of niggling little issues that make me crazy.