How can i wipe the SMART data on a hard disk

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by WarKirby, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. WarKirby

    WarKirby Private First Class

    Hello everyone. I want to wipe the SMART data for a particular disk.

    And to head off the obvious first posts,
    • YES i know what i'm doing,
    • YES there is a reason for it,
    • YES i know it won't actually fix drive problems,
    • YES I DO actually want to just wipe the SMART data, and not the data stored on the drive.
    • I have already confirmed the drive itself is healthy.
    Please do not post those answers, like everyone does on every other forum in existence.

    now as to the why;
    My drive has a ton of CRC errors built up, which i traced to a failing SATA cable. I have confirmed, with empirical testing, benchmarking, and several other known working cables, that the drive itself is not at fault. It is perfectly healthy. I know this, don't question it.

    Now in addition to this, i ordered several replacement cables from a wholesaler, and either due to their incompetence, or sheer misfortune, i was give three broken cables. And in the process of testing these out before returning them, the drive incurred a heck of a lot MORE errors. Most notably, End to End error detection shows data of 19, which is a fail mark.

    Because of this, windows is repeatedly requesting to run checks on the drive at boot time. No i don't want to disable these checks, or actually run them. I want to clear the SMART data so it doesn't ask me.

    Please provide some information on software that i can use to achieve my objective.
     
  2. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Since it's a SATA drive, I'm presuming you're running Vista or later. Maybe the instructions for clearing the dirty bit on this page will help.
     
  3. brownizs

    brownizs MajorGeek

    You cannot is the simple answer. S.M.A.R.T. info is saved on a PROM on the board for the drive. Even if you swapped the board. The first time you boot that drive up, the new board would find all of the bad info about the drive.
     
  4. WarKirby

    WarKirby Private First Class

    Thank you. This is not the answer i was hoping for, but it is the correct one, and the only worthwhile one that could be posted. You are indeed correct, it cannot be done. I went and researched PROMs, and it is so staggeringly "cannot be done" it's pretty crazy.


    RE: My other issues; I ended up, for various reasons, wiping the drive and upgrading to a new version of windows. That has solved all data/configuration issues, although it seems i will have to live with the screwed up SMART data until I replace the drive.

    I am currently engaged in metaphorically shouting at the wholesaler i got the cables from. All three cables being bad, indicates failure to perform random testing on their part.
     
  5. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    What size drive and what is the percentage shrewed up? Just curiousity. Why install a new Windows on a limited drive? Of course if a small percentage then no big deal. My drive just booted - no drive attached - and it was the sata channel . Swapped with the dvdrom and now it- the dvdrom- has errors. Probably motherboard .-
     
  6. WarKirby

    WarKirby Private First Class

    invalid question. the errors are entirely superficial, there is no problem with the drive, and the faulty cables didn't change that. if you've had the same issue,. then you now have the same problem - not really a problem at all, juist annoying.

    It's like living with graffiti sprayed on the walls of your house. Theoretically it does nothing, it's just annoying to look at.
     
  7. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest


    How did you verify that SMART is the issue?

    Windows does not read SMART data to trigger disk checks.
     
  8. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Am I correct in saying it "reads"the dirty bit and it should be cleared?
     
  9. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest


    Yes sir :)

    The dirty bit being set at a filesystem level. After scanning/fixing, it flips the bit.

    fsutil can be used to manipulate it too:

    ---- Commands Supported ----

    8dot3name 8dot3name management
    behavior Control file system behavior
    dirty Manage volume dirty bit
    file File specific commands
    fsinfo File system information
    hardlink Hardlink management
    objectid Object ID management
    quota Quota management
    repair Self healing management
    reparsepoint Reparse point management
    resource Transactional Resource Manager managemen
    sparse Sparse file control
    transaction Transaction management
    usn USN management
    volume Volume management
    wim Transparent wim hosting management
     

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