If youre a gamer read this!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by volumeone0686, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    All i had tons of questions even tho i know a shit load about computers im not a geek but a hardcore gamer.But the lack of options r running thin with bf screwing up with patches ea release.But! ea got kicked and dice will handle the patches!So theres a little hope for dx9 games.Whats the point like i said runnign thin on games.U had bf2,bf2142,css,dods for online that i loved for fps.but the bf series dropped with bad bugs from patches,css ever since i saw the hitboxes on google it was never the same and dods was good but not good as the bf1942.This is what i read over the last month on what to get for the new next gen of gaming.I have a feeling games will finally be the way i wanted them to be in dx10.



    Monitor:If u can get a LCD DIV connector monitor with atleast 19in and under 8ms of response time!I bought a 21 inch proview vga and i never really knew bout div,now i knew something was with my 21 inch.THe monitor is amazing but with vga its copying the image and trying to emulate it.Like in alot of my games i had the best hardware and was getting angry cuz i so see clean lines like the image was catching up.I met alot of ppl saying div is the main connectors and ull never have a problem with it.


    Video cards:As many of u gamers heard about crysis!the makers of fary cry making a far cry2 also!I just bought a 7900 for 189 bucks just to get me by until real dirct x10 cards come out and u have a wide range of cards to pick from.Take my advice if u dont have the money to blow and the games that r gonna be dx10 doesnt come out till like 4-6 months just hold out till the cheaper ones come.Ive been watching a trend ever since dec1 the 8800 gt and gtx r slipping in prices.Whats happening are they re doing mail in rebates then it ll be instant+mail in rebates.If u have the cash to burn get the 8800 gts or gtx it plays dx9 beautifully!


    processor:I was kinda misled on the new intel duo cores! :p...like i said i always read up on things.Turns out that the duo cores are the fastest processors u can get.In this mag i was reading they built a nice pc for 1500! the guy bought a e6300 and overclocked it with the stock fan to 3.0 ghz.And when i said i was misled i read that same kinda passage before i bought the e6400 thinking i can madly overclock! turns out the board u need to do this is a 680i evage motheboard.Right now with xp u cant used dual cores,but one of those single cores runs faster then a 5000 + and a 4800x2.Nothing is really designed for multi tasking until vista comes out and i cant wait to see how fast thing can be with its true nature of its designs.


    motherboard:if ur gonna go next gen u have to get a 680i motheboard i have many reasony to do this.Remember like 3 years ago?pci e was so new agp still killed it and all of the sudden boom agp is dead.then u had sli! the best thing to hook up two cards together!what turned out back then was that ur sli was 8x and 8x so u never had full speed on the second gpu of the card.Now with the new 680i u get 3 pci e 16x.HD sound cards r gonna be on that 3rd slot i can tell.But now u can take 2 cards and sli them and get 100 percent on both of em at 32x.Before sli was designed for say like u have a 6600 and u got left behind u could take another and sli and kinda catch up.Now if i wanted to i could take my 7900 and go faster than the 8800 but no directx10.I just cant imagine how fast two 8800 would be omg!


    ram: u have kingston,corsair,geil,ocz,cruical theses the big boys!ocz and cruical tech r the fastest ram in the industry.WHere u have corsair with xms and geil designed for gaming.so if u need ram for gaming get either geil or corsair xms ddr2 800! ull scream.


    dvd burners: 18x-20x r out now and omg theyre r quick and cheap too! if u go to compusa and a local shop ur gonna spend so much more.I bought a 18x samsung dvd burner.I can take a dvd cuz i like to make a copy just incase someone steals and burn it.With my 16x it took between 30-40 to shrink then 3 mins to burn the iso i made.Now with the 18x dvd i can take a movie shrink and burn it all together in 6 mins.


    pc cases: u want a good pc case for the long 11 inch cards? u need a full tower nuff said!


    Powersupplies:i always got left in the dust haha with these,i couldnt wiat to get a 500 watt and its already outdated.so what i did was bought a 1000 watt psu for 269.and u know y cuz most 850 watts and 700 watts range in that price and bfg is a good company.My friend owns a shop and either way from nvidia,to cool master or enermax theyre all amazing.The only thing u have to worry bout is the psu that comes with the case.But u need atleast a 650-750 watt for the new cards.


    hard drives:this is what made me want to write this article to help u guys out.my info isnt fake i read this in the pc hardware mag! im glad i dide cuz iwas gonna buy a nice 500 gb 7200 rpm 16 cache.and im like well im gonna get a 10,000 rpm then u know to get better stuff for gaming.It turns out 10,000 rpm doesnt do anything but load levels alittle faster so dont waste money on it if u think itll boost fps.



    CPU cooler:I wish i wrote this on the top but get a zalman 9700 cooler for 50 bucks cuz on newegg its a instant 20 bucks saving.u can idle at 12 c,and get artic silver for ur paste itll dropped it 5 more c



    well that sums it all up and i hope ull find this info helped out alittle bit!
     
  2. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    uh how iz 1 to read this stuff with the grammar bad speling and puncuations i dont know that any1 cud make it to the end.
     
  3. ShockTroop

    ShockTroop Specialist

    After sorting through the IMing language garble, I'm assuming this is supposed to be some sort of advice post? I hope you didn't reproduce what they wrote in the mag and put an unintelligible twist to it.

    Monitor: DVI, not DIV (from what I recollect, anyway). Under 8ms is for people who can notice a great difference between that and 8ms and want to brag about it...IMO.

    Video cards: Of course prices are going down. They certainly won't go up with new cards being developed. I'll wait until either the physical size is shorter or when DX10 is mainstream, which will most likely be after the first wave of DX10 games are released (I can live without the extra eye candy for a bit).

    Processor: Indeed, Core 2 Duos are the fastest according to most benchmarks. Multi-tasking has always been done, it's just that some processors are better at it than others. Software in XP can use dual core. Nothing's taking full advantage of both cores yet, if that's what you mean.

    Motherboard: If you're going to go next-gen, wait until more motherboards come out to choose from so you have more variety instead of being forced to choose one. The 680i isn't the only motherboard that can perform full x16/x16, either.

    RAM: I'm already screaming trying to read what you wrote. There's RAM faster than 800MHz now, too. OMG!

    DVD Burners: Um....ok.

    PC Cases: Thank you, Captain Obvious.

    Power Supplies: Case PSUs almost always need upgrading, especially on gaming rigs. The "new cards" that will most likely be the budget 8 series cards (8300, 8500, whatever), probably won't need that big of a power supply. For future reference, new won't always mean higher requirements. For the 8800s, yes, but hopefully they'll improve on efficiency.

    Hard drives: Yeah, because, you know, it's from a mag, it MUST be true!! Yeah, more RPMs basically makes reading/writing faster, which doesn't affect gaming that much (from what I understand, anyway).

    CPU Cooler: Yay Zalman! Liquid cooling is quite nice, too, such as Coolermaster's.

    Summary: Don't upgrade/buy just to have the best of the best. If you've done the research, compared to other hardware, and realized you won't notice much of a difference (or don't care), save tons and get what you think you'll really take advantage of, not what you want to brag about.

    (No offense, of course ;)...A for effort!)
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2006
  4. mcadam

    mcadam Major Amnesia

    ...D for grammar :p

    On the other hand, a good response there ShockTroop, I actually found that far easier to read irrelevant of my current state of mind - tired and in a bad mood!:eek:
     
  5. sl00py99

    sl00py99 Private First Class

    :eek: Ok, vol, you know your gaming, I guess. But, how is it that kids can study their own language for 12 years or so, and yet have not mastered it?
     
  6. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    its different when i type, im not good at typing but better in pen! plus i was born deaf too. I didnt get my hearing till i was 8 so language arts was always kinda hard for me.But I mastered in math,history,sci tho!And I was in a hurry,sometimes when im in a hurry i think what im typing and skip words.
     
  7. mcadam

    mcadam Major Amnesia

    Guys can we not hijack the thread and keep it on topic please.

    Thanks.
     
  8. Jazagod

    Jazagod Command Sergeant Major

    who the heck really needs a 1000 WATT PSU??:eek: Most 500 watt (dual rail) will do ..good enough for dual pci e NVidea SLi cards...WOW 1000?
     
  9. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    well an 8800 gtx needs 700 to run and i found alot of good psu for the price of a 700 and 800
     
  10. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Appreciate that, but you might consider a spell checker :)
     
  11. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    This is incorrect. ;)

    http://evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=768-P2-N831-AR

    Running in SLI, then yes. :) Perhaps more. :)


    Note #108: The video card itself is NOT taking 450 watts. Just the recommendation on your overall system needs.
     
  12. BCGray

    BCGray Guest

    Hey volumeone0686 I really appreciate the fact that you have a problem with typing, I did to too start with and found that if I composed my posts in a Word Processor with "Spell & Grammar Check" and then used Copy & Paste, my posts got better responses.......................Hey there is know rush here to post, just take you time. Too many posters have the "IM Messenger" Syndrome which is cool for the IM boards were the messages flow quickly, but here where we need all the info possible it can become a Pain.

    Hey and considering your handicap when younger, your doing a great job, just slow down a little. Hey your at Major Geeks were Time itself stands still;) :D
     
  13. sl00py99

    sl00py99 Private First Class

    :eek: Ok, vol, you got me. Sincerest apologies and Merry Christmas to all.
     
  14. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    appericate it fellas merry xmas to everyone! where my xmas present is coming early, i think with my wife being in labor! :p
     
  15. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Wow, that makes for a fun holiday, good luck with it :)
     
  16. Jazagod

    Jazagod Command Sergeant Major

    Thx theefool, also the dual rail kicks it up a notch
    Ps, I hhope your head doesnt hurt;)
    Jaza
     
  17. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    yeah someone told me the card needed plike 450 for itself or some crap like :/ guess that person was wrong.Right now im fishy about listening to advice saying duos r junk,680i boards are having problems and u cant have more than 4 gbs.Now im glad to know that u dont need a 700-1000 watt to run this game!
     
  18. Jazagod

    Jazagod Command Sergeant Major

    um Pardon?
     
  19. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    card*cuz i thought i had to buy a new psu cuz my card wasnt getting a enough power to run bf2.
     
  20. Jazagod

    Jazagod Command Sergeant Major

    whew, I just gave 1942 battlefield 2 away..
    You must have too many HD's
    or too mant somethings
     
  21. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal


    god u know i love battlefield! i just love the way is meant to be and the way it was. :(.EA seriously ruined that game,u know?I went to play 1.01 just for the heck of it and man that was the good ole days.Where u could jump and prone and jump,where u could throw c4,not have claymores everywhere.Im hoping quake wars will end bf for me cuz i have no clue why i try to play that game.I know my problem is my ram where i dont have enough to run it right,and im stucking thinking do i really wanna spend 300 more for 2 gbs.Battlefield2 and 2142 made it rare where ur not stuck like counter strike and dod in a closed area.What game did u go to online jazagod? i tried wow but its not the same,i just cant get into it like a fps.
     
  22. Jazagod

    Jazagod Command Sergeant Major

    straight up, Starwars Battlefront 2. more like BF vietnam in gameplay, sweet grfx with no big load. 512 ram is more than enough ram to play, and i believe a 64 vid card will do to. Flying all them ships is the cats bottom too..more than 22 levels and more modded levs too, good game... Free FEAR is lotsa fun too, though a little heavy on the specs.
    Battlefield is a great game, im so sorry bf2 was as bad as it is.my oppinion of course.
    I just got guild wars...I hope its not dissapointing;)
    Jaza
     
  23. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    yeah i bought battlefront 2 and never played it isnt that a bit ch? haha my girl gets mad at me cuz i buy games and never play them.If u look on my xfire profile,i think i have around 120 games.a good 80-90 were under a 30mins a piece
     
  24. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Computer gaming. Dead. Hardly anyone releases good pc games anymore. Battlefield 2142 should have been a mod. WOW is fun for so many months. Flight Sim X is pretty cool. But, really, in the past year you can list games you really enjoyed on 1-2 hands. I used to have dozens of games laying around, I now have 3 or 4.

    Consoles were always silly to me. Online play was even younger kids acting like idiots worse then pc games. Most console games are simply arcade in style, in other words, you go from checkpoint a-b, b-c and when you fail you do it over and over again. Of course games like GTA and some others dont apply. All graphics, not a lot of gameplay.

    I am enjoying my Wii, that takes all my time up gaming wise now
     
  25. volumeone0686

    volumeone0686 Corporal

    well i cant really agree with u on this one major attitude! :p
    Yeah i suppose its dead right now but most of the good games r coming for the pc!

    ill list them


    call of duty 3,4,5 4/5 will be pc only
    crysis
    far cry2
    prince of persia 4
    assassin creed
    project instellarmarines
    city of villians/heros
    wow
    starcraft
    madden series r okay on pc
    fear
    rainbow six vegas and 3
    star wars rebel assualt 1 and 2
    doom1,2,3,final doom
    half life1,2,supposely 3 is coming!
    quake2,3,4, and 5 coming
    postal 3
    unreal tournament 07
    gears of war
    bioshock
    battlefield series adds up to like 5
    need for speed
    dark messiah
    oblivion
    far cry


    PS im not trying to be right im just saying,i dont think itll die will direct x10 coming.I think alot of gamer developers left dx9 to bring out good dx10 games now and thats y we have less good hit titles
     

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