Intel wants $50 to unlock restricted chip power

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by pclover, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. pclover

    pclover MajorGeek

  2. hrlow2

    hrlow2 MajorGeek

    Why don't they just put on a mask and grab a gun?

    Just a load of :crap on Intels part.
     
  3. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    It's not as though their products are cheap to begin with.
     
  4. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Well, it is a poor concept to me, but how are they stealing? You get what you paid for either way. You pay$x for y performance. You can then spend $50 to get y+z performance if you want.

    I have spent more than $50 in heatsinks and fans to overclock in the past... :-D But, in one way, you can spend less and get a chip that performs as it states, and you can spend $50 to upgrade it.

    The funny part is some people will figure out how to unlock it without spending the $50. :cool
     
  5. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    I don't see much wrong here either, it's not a bait and switch affair. Underhanded and sneaky, perhaps. AMD has been crippling chips for years, Like their 3X CPUs, ASUS core unlocker mobo's, granted AMD is not too happy with ASUS ATM.:-D
     
  6. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I do agree with Fred and Augie in that this has been going on for years in various tech areas, software you have to pay extra for (games mainly) to unlock specific new levels etc etc

    In some cases in past few years some Dual Cores from both AMD and Intel have actually been Quads, but locked off two cores, not that in this case you where asked to pay to unlock, but from the little I have read on this, this practice is only on OEM build PCs and not retail/OEM sourced CPUs on their own.

    Without knowning Intels rationale on this, I would have a guess that they could sell OEM PC builders cheaper CPUs thus lowering the cost of the Laptop (which many of these will go into) which in turn is good for the customer who may not want or afford to pay more, but they you get the option to increase the power (which from what I read is a whopping 5% increase in clock cycles) for a charge if they think oops I should have purchased the model above the one they bought as it cannot edit video or run some apps quicker etc

    Its kinda like Windows Anytime Upgrade in a way, you buy Windows Starter and think, mmmm wish I had gotten Home Premium or Ultimate, you have the option to upgrade for a nominal fee , over buying brand new again.


    I'm on the fence with this but can see pros and cons, when you really start to drill down into the information and what this is about.
     
  7. hrlow2

    hrlow2 MajorGeek

    Be that as it may, it still stinks like ( you know what ).
     
  8. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Ya, but the kicker is in unlocking HyperThreading which is making the chip a virtual dual-core machine.

    I don't believe that all the folders in the world would be utilizing all 8 virtual cores on an i7 would pass up doing the same work in 4 cores, hmm I wonder what the difference would be? When I went from a single to an X2 it was like night and day!:eek
     
  9. pclover

    pclover MajorGeek

    My argument is what is the point.

    Why do they put the stuff on the chip and then lock it down? Doesn't that just make the costs for them higher?

    I thought the locked cores are due to them being unstable and instead of throwing the cpu out they decided to make it a dual core. I know this is true with the AMD tri core
     
  10. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Indeed the process called "binning" has gone on your years as you rightly said they will lock certain parts of a CPU if the fabrication has had an issue on a batch, saves binning the silicon whicg costs a small fortune to produce.

    More info here http://www.reghardware.com/2010/09/20/intel_software_cpu_upgrade_trial/
     
  11. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Actually, after thinking about it, I kinda like it. Look at it this way, you are building a new gaming rig, your budget for the CPU is $200. Now, the crippled one costs $200 (I am making up these numbers buy the way...) So I get it, and in a couple of months I am ready to upgrade! So, normally you would have to buy a whole new CPU, pull the mobo, install, all that, and you are out a lot of cash and have a spare CPU. You can sell it for about 2/3 of it's worth, or build a backup computer. But you are out the cost of 2 CPU's.

    With this deal, $50, I unlock it, and bam, I am upgraded, not hardware work required. LoL, it is kinda like overclocking that won't void your warranty. :-D Plus, does the average user need hyperthreading to download virus and spyware?, they seem to do well on on older 1.5GHz machine... ;)
     
  12. Puppywunder58

    Puppywunder58 Master Sergeant

    This "product upgrade" is kinda like when Coca-Cola tried to have vending machines increase the price of the drinks when the weather got warmer. At 70 degrees you paid $1, but at 80 or 90 degrees you would have to pay $1.50 for the same drink.
     
  13. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    I like that idea also. The beauty of economics. :-D
     

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