Is flash other windows active-x

Discussion in 'Software' started by nec209, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. nec209

    nec209 Private First Class

    Some one was saying flash is bad for malware? Can some explain to me how flash is bad for malware?

    I know that flash is way better than windows active-x do to active-x is very dangerous for malware .

    no idea why internet explorer use active-X when it is so dangerous for malware ??? No one other than Microsoft uses active-X these days:major
     
  2. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Re Flash, read this recent article by Brian Krebs.

    And this from the same author, about the vulnerability of outdated browsers and plugins generally.

    ActiveX is still a part of several plugins available for Firefox, maybe for other non-IE browsers too - open in IE tab is probably one of them.
     
  3. nec209

    nec209 Private First Class

    I don't think they hide exploits and malware in ads but when you have web site and there are ads you have to check where ads are coming from .

    Also has a webmaster you have to make sure who you go with for the ads.


    I think web site with good firewall and good router this will not happen.


    These hackers that hacked that web site or put malicious code in the site would not happen if the webmaster use a good firewall and good router .


    It is in beta and you need firefox. It will not run on IE.

    Windows vista and windows 7 not to say IE8 and IE9 have a crude sandbox. Windows 9.x and windows XP have no sandbox.

    Where firefox and Google Chrome have a much better sandbox.

    Now flash under pressure have to start implementing a sandbox.
     
  4. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    That's about the only part you got right, get out there and study the history of these things a little more - the articles on that site, and the links to other security blogs etc. are a good place to begin.

    Come back in 3 - 5 days and tell us where you were wrong in the last post and why!
     
  5. nec209

    nec209 Private First Class

    Where did I say the information in those articles are wrong?
     
  6. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I'll give you the first clue, it's your first comment, the others are much the same.

     
  7. nec209

    nec209 Private First Class


    If that is false than majorgeeks and google would be unsafe .
     
  8. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    That's the whole point, no-one is 100% safe when there are so many exploits and security holes. And serving up malicious ads and pictures has been going on for quite some time now, all it takes is a vulnerable PC/server in Serbia to get owned and you might be the next unlucky recipient via a link from your favorite search engine or an ad served via your local news site.

    Stick around and see how many spammers sneak in here and post each day - there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes, but they'll always find a way through, spend enough time on any site, you'll see signs of possible or actual intrusion at some point. Do you have a router at home - if so, check the logs. Then check where the chips in it were made.

    Even little chips can be coded ...
     
  9. nec209

    nec209 Private First Class

    The reason why I posted like I did above is I use to go to this one web site all time and most 90% time it was safe but the webmaster was having trouble with ads has malware was coming through ads like Virus Heur: trojan.script.Iframer


    No idea what happen but the webmaster was having lots problem with ads.


    oh about all those exploits and security holes ( some may be okay but so many in large numbers ) with windows and IE well may be some programmers need a new job if they do not know how to program code the proper way.

    If it is pressure or not getting enough sleep or time to check the programming code well than the CEO should get new job than.

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    Last edited: Feb 15, 2012
  10. nec209

    nec209 Private First Class

    There is also alot myth going around abut flash some it true or only partly true .

    -- flash is bloated does not work well on computers more than 5 years old ( computer not fast enough )

    -- flash does not work well on OS and browsers that are old.

    --flash is bad for malware.

    I hear this new flash is going to cut down on malware with this new sanbox that will be coming out soon.
     
  11. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    If you don't like or need it, uninstall it.
     
  12. nec209

    nec209 Private First Class

    I never said I do not like flash.I just wanted some one to clear up some of these myths about flash and see what other people here think about flash.
     
  13. usafveteran

    usafveteran MajorGeek

    So, which of the above do you think is true and which is partly true?

    In general, I think this is perhaps only partly true. I'm running Windows 7 on a Pentium IV computer with 4GB of RAM. In other words, this computer is over 5 years old. When viewing some sites with flash, yes, their flash content may make CPU usage spike upward and have a noticeable affect on the browser's and computer's performance. But then, other sites using flash work without causing sharp upward spike CPU usage and without a noticeable performance impact. I attribute this to the skill of the web developer; some of them seem to be not very committed to optimizing their flash content to run smoothly on older computers; in many cases, I believe they could do better.

    Well, how old? The browser is the main issue here since that's where flash is experience by most Internet users. I don't believe the OS has much to do with this. Regarding the browser, this may be a reason to not use very old browsers.

    Yes, this reference confirms that: http://www.security-faqs.com/how-is-malware-spread-through-flash-based-advertising.html. This is where your antivirus software can play an important protective role. I use avast! Free Antivirus. I believe its Web Shield feature provides effective protection against any malware contained in websites. And, in addition, everyone should be using one or more malware removal programs such as MalwareBytes AntiMalware.

    As a general viewpoint on flash, I can't imagine not using it because much streaming media on the web uses it and I want that content; youtube is an example.
     

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