Learnin comps

Hey, it seems like EVERY person here knows WAY more about comps then me, what can i do to learn about em? and i hate reading but oh wellz lol, maybe taken apart my laptop? (dont kno how but still lol) b/c i cant take apart my desktop b/c it really isnt mine its like everyones... so i cant do that and i only have like $500+ so i cant buy a computer (a good one anyways "maybe") thats good, b/c i play computer games like crazy on my desktop and stuff, so anyone kno?

 

Read up on it!

Literacy is one of the most powerful gifts you have.

Make it work for you.

 

literacy???

 

that means the ability to read

you dont necessarily have to know how to put one together to learn more about them. Heck, half of the people certified in windows and other sofwtare, even programmers, dont know how to put one together. (it's pretty easy actually though).


anyway, if you are interested in learning some basics, check out some of the editorials over at www.pcstats.com some of their stuff gets a little advanced, but they do a good job explaining a lot of computer 'ideas' to beginners.

while $500 wont get you the best system, you'd be surprised what it CAN get you. add a little more money and you can actually make a small powerhouse, guarenteed to be better than your families desktop (unless you JUST bought it and its top of the line)

EDIT: BAH! posted at the same time as Halo... with similar info! darn us.

 

oo thats what that word means lol god im dumb lol, and ill check them sites out, thanks

 

hah, awesome, and how much money would i need? like $600 $700 for a pretty nice comp

 

Re: welcome to the psychic hotline

Fools seldom differ! lol.
Just couldn't resist, sorry guys just a bit of fun

 

yeah, i'd say for around $600 you can get something that would play doom 3 / halflife 2 at pretty decent framerates. something to think about if you ever decide you need your own desktop.

of course..the longer you wait, the better you can get for that price... but thats just normal

 

ya there the 2 games i WANT and NEED lol, do i need a good graphic card for them kinda games? i have the regular HL and i play HL : Counter Strike like everyday lol and lots other games and they play fine

 

yes, a good graphics card is the key to playing those games well.

my friend just installed doom 3 on his system running a P4 2.8C and an ATi Radeon 9800 Pro, and it has trouble running any higher than medium graphics settings (there are High, and Ultra, above medium).

so if those are games you are really planning to play, if you can wait a little and save up a little more money, you'd see a big difference. but a $600 system would still play them... but not with as much eye candy.

and also, Doom3 is just ridiculously frightening. by far scarier than any scary movie ever. be warned!

 

hahah, well the graphics card on my desktop rite now is a GeForce 4 MX graphic card i think (more then likely its on the box, hah!) and is that good or can run a game like HL2 or Doom3? and that game is out now??? wtf i thought it just leaked out my accident or somethin lol not the real game came out but i dunno

 

nope, Doom 3 made its public debut this last week. its already here, and Halflife 2 is going public in November

yeah, your GeForce 4 MX (not a true geforce 4, actually a geforce 2) will have a terrible time running the game. even with the most advanced Processor backing that up, you'd still only be able to run the game with minimal settings and very bad performance.

if you'd like to upgrade that family desktop to be able to play those games, you'd need at least a new video card. but first you'd have to find out if you have an AGP slot that would allow you to upgrade, or if the GeForce 4 MX is integrated in your motherboard's chipset.

the easiest way to find out is to look inside your PC and see if you can find a brown slot above the white PCI slots.... or just give us the model # of your computer.

in any case, to play those games well, you're looking at at least a $150 graphics card, if not a $350 one.

 

omg... i dont wanna upgrade the desktop b/c i cant get on it everyday due to dumb lil bros and sisters, i wanna get my own, and you kno anywhere to get a wireless router and card for less then $120 all together? b/c i was goin to get the linksys router and card at circuit city for $120, for my laptop, and i have like 500 some dollars rite now and im saven up for a computer but i wanna buy that too...i dunno what to do

 

ECS ATI RADEON 9200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "R9200-128DV" -RETAIL
Model# R9200-128DV
Item# N82E16814134108
Price: $51.00

oo yeah.. well is this a good deal and will it work for doom 3? and HL2

 

Maybe You should try out ebay once

 

no, a 9200 will NOT play doom 3 and hl2. 9600 minimum if you want it to be playable. as I said, a 9800 pro was just barely playable with minimal eye candy.

also, if you plan on online gaming, you're not going to want to go wireless. while its more than acceptable for standard networking and internet... you'll have an additional 20-25ms ping for the wireless connection. that translates into annoying and unneccesary lag during mulitplayer internet gaming.

 

jesus christ... thats crazy... well what kinda card i need for it then? im not spending 300 for a dam card either lol

 

i have a geforce fx5200 and i play on 1024x760 or whatever with high details and all advances options except for vsync and shadows on.

 

Hey luke since the 9200 wont work then what kind should we get? Cause im not gonna pay 385$ for one either unless me and you combine our cash or sumthin or get one off ebay...

 

ya i kno richard.... and wolf you said the geforce fx5200 works???

 

geforce fx5200 works???[/QUOTE] so how much does it cost and I saw your lil cs thing lol. I beat that flag thingy.

 

Hey I just played it again 1890 now lol

 

you can get a 9800pro for around $200. thats about the lowest I would want to go to play those 2 games.

 

wolf cmon post back i need a new card lol

 

he's not online

 

dam... well them radeon cards cost alot

 

high end cards cost more than budget cards. its not any different with the nvidia cards. or cars. or houses.

 

Luke on tigerdirect they have gforce 5600's for 80$ maybe we should get that 1.

 

i kno, i dunno if that card will play doom3... i mean its only like $80 ??? anyone kno?

 

You got 130 on cs btw Im done for today 2130 on flag duh lol i feel sorry for myself. So whatever kind you get or they tell you Im gonn go ahead and get myself to. Bah dammit why does everything gotta cost so much cash ive found a bunch of g force 5600 for diff prices on google. 40-140$ but ebay looks better since they got the radeon 9800 for like 100-200$ so i think i might get one off ebay for my new pc.

 

Just picked up one of these cards for $200, so they are around you just have to look for them.

 

oo kool

 

no, an fx5600 is not great of a card. minimum i would go is a 5700, and if you want to play those games, FX5900XT or higher. like i said, you can get one of those for around $130-$180 and its comparable to a radeon 9800 pro.

i dont know what game Wolf is talking about, but be assured, an fx5200 will certainly not play Doom3 or hl2.

 

Welcome to the Forum!

Hmm... 500 bucks... On the first computer I built, I spent about 600, and it was a pretty decent system, (300 for basic hardware: Mobo, I had a HD laying around, and I bought a CD-RW) About 300 for Software (Win XP Pro, Office Student/Teacher edition (sadly, i lost Office)) So... 100 bucks more will make you a decent system!!

 

ooo dam, wolf i hate you, tryin to make me get a gay card, and years what about my RAM, processor and memory? i have a crappy desktop (laptop better) lol

 

Doom3 Buyer's Guide: AnandTech
Doom3 High End Graphics Comparison: TheTechReport
Doom3 Console Guide: ViperLair
Doom3 Performance: VR-Zone
Doom3 Performance Preview: X-bit Labs
GeForce 6800 Series Roundup: TheTechReport
AMD's Athlon 64 3500+ processor: TheTechReport

Not that any of those articles have a thing to do with the original topic of the thread, but since we seem to have segued into talking about Doom3... The information you need is out there, all you need to do is open your eyes, make Google your friend, and look for it.

OR...lacking the incentive to find out for yourself, you could always look at the front page news of any of a couple of dozen tech sites (I post news for two of them) where the information is all gathered right there for you.

 

ooo dam lol

 

sorry, i was off on vacation for a few days
yes, i have a fx5200, bought it for like $80, and it runs the game great. just make sure you download the latest drivers. doom 3 ran like crap until i did. i got them from http://www.3dchipset.com/drivers/official/nvidia/nt5/index.php.
i downloaded the 61.77 forceware and the game runs EXCELLENT!

 

wolf, what are your system specs?

also, what are you running the game in? meaning, resolution, quality settings and so on.

your card by all means should NOT be able to run that game in 1024x768 (standard resolution) and be playable. if it does... i'm amazed.

 

if it works then fhk ya im buying it lol