Mini Rant - About Microsoft Known Bugs

somewhat. but knowing that MS does full regression testing with ALL service pack levels is important. That means that they are testing compatibility with every version of their OS. It takes time. They sometimes have to notify vendors of changes that may affect their software.. Windows is a huge platform which supports an unending amount of software. It's difficult to make sure everything works when something is changed.

 

Their solution to this problem is IE6.. but apparently the bug may have migrated along with it.

MS does that. If there's a bug in Version 1 and no resolution is found or is not brought to the table early enough, they say "scrap it, and wait til the next biuld"..

 

I agree

Same as Ford, General Motors, General Electric, ad nauseum. It is simply the world we live in. People allow it (by buying/using the product) so they keep doing it. The population needs to demand more accountability.

 

The thing is though, how can it be a bug, if we don't all experience it?

My IE6 doesn't have that 'feature'

 

Hello, Press 1 for formatting intructions.
Press 2 for fdisk instructions..

Good Bye
/sarcasm

 

well, E613, removing of windows media player, and open source code should help wane your anger

 

Wow this makes a change another thread knocking Microsoft

There is a choice dont bother using their products

 

oh come on now.. there are alternatives.. MAC and LINUX are plenty viable. Not MS's fault if the rest of them can't market worth a shit.

 

Yeah lets bash MS for making a product that was successful, its ludacris how dare they, quick fine them and make them allow everyone else to add what they want to their product, quick call Ford and tell them that chevy will be shipping some radios that they want installed beside Ford's radio so that the users will have a choice. Man its democracy at its best.....no wait .......thats communism

/Sarcasm

 

M$ products and updates

Remember Netscape Navigator before M$ Internet Explorer steamrollered it to a shadow of it's former popularity..

Apple Mac was/is better than IBM compatible PC's, but PC clones and M$ almost crushed them.

They tell me that Beta was/is better than VHS but who won out.

Sheer weight of numbers installed, anti competition practices, marketing methods and predatory pricing are major factors that ensure what "succeeds".

An old saying "You pays your money and takes your choice". I use M$ for Windows and investigate freeware options for all the rest where possible. I use M$ Office 2000 as it came with my laptop. If not, I would have tried freeware alternatives. Baz

 

Predatory pricing?

OSX is cheaper and comes with more than one license than Windows XP of any full version flavor.

Apple's downfall is the price for their hardware, not MS.

MS takes the heat for a lot of crap that isn't their fault.

Just about anyone can use a non MS alternative, hardware or software.

The problem is, they don't want to.

Shall MS be punished because people want them over the alternatives?

You can't police people's desires.

For most people, MS products are more desirable than the competition.

Thats not a monopoly, thats smart.

 

I think its off track because Kodo already pretty much summed up the answer to your thread in a single post

 

No, you don't have to. That was my point in an earlier post.

Correct me if I am wrong. What MUST you have MS software/hardware for?

 

Games and convenience. Games for the hardcore computer savvy that would run strictly Linux otherwise, and convenience for the other 98% of Windows users. Not to mention Apple, which still has ~ 10% of the market, last I heard.

Office? Run Corel Word Perfect, or there are FREE ones out there that do almost as good as Office.

Oh, but those are only ALMOST as good? That's not Bill Gates fault.

And no non-computer-geek will even get Linux to run without a lot of handholding. Warts and all, in ALL the things consumers judge by, Windows is biggest because Windows is best.

Don't like it? Buy a Mac.

 

Exactly what I was looking for G.T. I couldn't have said it better.

 

Your company pays you to stomach MS. You are not forced to use MS or their MS only products.

You are paid to.

Your company made the choice to use those products. They made a choice.

Why?

Because it was either cheaper or better to use MS products, or MS compatible only products.

 

Couple comments though G.T. .

I didn't mention games because in the end, the computer is a tool for most, not a toy.

Convenience isn't a must. There are plenty of inconvenient alternatives out there

 

Fair enough

 

OK so MS does engage in business practices that aren't 100% 'fair', but in a free market, it's a given that businesses will pursue profit and push the envelope in doing so.

Their products aren't perfect, but they can compete with any others out there. The fact remains that without a good, popular, successful product, MS would never have gotten where they are today.

 

One other thing. MS contracts out to technical writers outside of the company.


They don't always update articles to show that the issues have been resolved. In fact, most of the time they don't.

 

True enough, although the percentages of home toys has been growing for years.

True, but even for business, convenience is a factor, as convenience usually equates to efficiency, which is $$$. Otherwise a lot more businesses would have already switched over to Linux or Unix. Come to think of it, most older businesses switched from Unix or something else TO Windows many years ago. We did where I used to work.

 

Good points as usual

 

I tried, chaslang. I think this thread is permanently derailed, LOL.

 

That wasn't very nice.


No I am not. I am outsourced support for MS. I am not bias, and hold no loyalties. If Macs were cheaper, I would not be using Windows at all, save for a couple games.

I am giving you possible reasons for your question. I think you know where you can shove the above comment

 

Don't apologize. I have an attention span of about 5 seconds and don't take anything personal

What were we talking about again?

 

No Offense, but there is a reason why they call it a DESKTOP database..
If you guys aren't using SQL server or some larger database Back-End in lieu of using an MDB, then you're fooling yoursleves. Access is fine for an FE(front-end) using an ADP to connect to SQL server or some other DB but certainly not meant for what you're doing..

 

The general rule of thumb is that MS Access is for personal or for use by a few non-concurrent users and not for Enterprise wide databases. MS SQL Server and Oracle are mid-range and large scale database solutions. I did come across an MS article assisting the decision between the various MS database products published by MS. Anyone use MS Foxpro? Ingress? Informis? Sybase? etc. other database solutions depending upon what functionality and problesm you require your database to address.

Anyway back to the main topic, humans build software and cars and unfortunately are not perfect, we can pay for these things to be fixed and set up a support service agreement with the vendors.