Moniter Issues Again

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Ichinzen, Apr 14, 2016.

  1. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    So i just recently moved and afterwards the monitor whenever connected to my computer occasionally blinks on and off. It does this every now and then and I had thought all my display issues had been resolved, but now I seem to be having new ones. It seems I just can't win against these display issues and will probably have to pay for outside support.

    I do know that the monitor itself is not faulty since when it is hooked up to the ps4 it doesn't blink I checked the cable connecting to my computer and it was all the way in and checked the one going into the monitr and it was also all the way in as well so as far as the wire not being in fully that isn't the issue. I have no idea where the source issue seems to lie
     
  2. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    You need unplug your computer from the wall, remove the side panel, touch bare metal of the case interior to discharge any static in your body, then make sure all the power and data cables inside the computer are securely fastened.
     
  3. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Actually that post by Digerati is one of several troubleshooting tips given on a few forum threads with exactly the monitor problem posted about. Others were those the OP has already tried. Carefully checking the connections - with power off and carefully static-discharged - can't cause a problem or worsen any other if done with due care.
     
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  4. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Geesh! No need to be an ungrateful idiot.

    1. Clearly you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about as making sure you don't have any loose cables is just basic electronics troubleshooting.
    2. No way it can make anything worse unless you are an oafish ogre.
    3. Ensuring you don't have any static in your body before reaching in is just common sense.

    So good luck with your problem, pal!
     
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  5. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    Any other suggestions that don't involve opening up the computer? I'm not sure I could do that.
     
  6. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Since you said at first you checked the external connector issues, and they were fine on another system, you are just left with checking the connections suggested inside the box displaying the problem. There are no other relevant suggestions. There are plenty of You Tube tutorials to guide you on checking inside.
    If you don't want to do it then take it to a repair shop.
     
  7. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    Could it be the graphics card?
     
  8. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    My apologies for calling you an idiot. I take offense when people come seeking FREE help are disrespectful to the volunteers who donate their own spare time to help others. I should not have said that.

    My advice is to take this computer to a shop.

    Yes it could very well be the graphics card - if you have one. Since you didn't bother to post any information about your computer, we have no way of knowing if you even have a card, or if using integrated. But nevertheless, since you think it harmful to simply open the case and check to see if there might be any loose cables to a graphics card (not uncommon after moving), my advice again is to take it to a shop.
     
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  9. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    I have no experience with the inside of the computer, but it is very doubtful that it is anything like what you said, as I handled the computer myself when moving and handled it very carefully so as to not loosen any internal components. Besides my graphics card seems to have more issues than any other component in the computer so I figured the issue was with it yet again.

    I was under the impression static electricity was bad for computers so when you said "touch the metal plate to discharge any static in your body" I was under the impression you were trying to troll me. Unless the metal plate is there to for discharging the static electricity, all the other stuff you said seemed like valid advice.
     
  10. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Any user of a system has to, at some point, get INTO the inside of a processor box:
    - to remove dirt and dust
    - to upgrade RAM
    - to upgrade anything inside it
    Saying you do not believe it is an internal connector issue is bizarre - you don't know!
    As far as static is concerned jut search it on the net. It's simple.
    If you were already having trouble with an actual graphic card (and not 'onboard' also known as 'integrated' graphics) then it would have been best to say that at the start.
    The same answer applies though - if you are not confident enough to follow any of many online video tutorials, then take to a repair shop.
     
  11. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    ESD (electro-static discharge) is VERY bad for ESD sensitive devices - particularly, high-density integrated circuits (ICs) like CPUs, GPUs, and memory "chips". What makes it worse is a tiny discharge can torch a Grand Canyon size (microscopically speaking) trench through one of those devices, yet be so tiny we as humans cannot see, feel or hear it.

    The bare metal of the case interior is a major component and part of the system "ground" and as such, when you touch it, you discharge any static in your body to ground though that bare metal. If you don't do that, then when you reach into towards the motherboard or other devices, the static in your body can jump (arc) from your finger tip, through the ESD sensitive device, and then to ground - destroying the device along the way.

    As far as assuming and treating someone as a troll over something you readily admit you don't have experience or knowledge of, I would suggest you use your friend, Bing Google and look it up first, or simply come back and say, "I though that was dangerous, is that safe?".

    Note too if you click poster's username, a popup will appear showing how long they've been on the site and their number of posts/messages. In my case, you would see I've been here since 2008 and have over 2000 posts. If I were a troll, I would have been banned long ago!

    Max is absolutely right. It is the user's responsibility to ensure there is not a blanket of heat-trapping dust built up inside the case. And because the case fans WILL pull dust, dirt, hair, dander, and little critters that eat that dander inside every case, this cannot be put off forever. Either you have to do it, or you need to take the computer to a shop and pay them to do it.
     
  12. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    As far as it being doubtful you have a loose cable, you really cannot tell without looking. Simple vibrations from the fans, drives, and footfalls on the floor can cause a connection that was not secure in the first place to work even more loose over time. Picking up, tilting and setting down a computer could work it even more loose.

    But clearly you are hesitant, so no shame in taking it to a professional.
     
  13. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    I've never really had issues like this before with any other computer, so I feel like this is most likely an issue with the card. I'd rather see if it isn't the card first before taking my computer to a shop, since there has been some previous problems before. Mostly some alerts with it but nothing quite this serious. I did manage to fix it and stop the alerts so I feel like we should check all other possibilities first before cracking open the computer. I probably won't need a professional since I'm good with following directions to the letter, I mean i did manually remove a virus from my computer using online instructions after all. They just need to be specific step by step instructions nothing vague.
     
  14. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    You now just need to say what you want step by step instructions to do. And with the problem you have being specific to that box, it's likely to mean reseating the graphics card (and while you are inside the box cleaning it!) and there are YouTube video guides to doing that.
     
  15. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    Let's start with things that could be causing the issue on the software end shall we, rather than hardware. A thing to not however is sometimes readjusting the hdmi piece plugged into the monitor will temporarily fix the issue.
     
  16. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Have you made sure you have the latest graphics driver? That's it software wise.
     
  17. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Other than what Digerati says above = and your previous posts gave the impression you'd already done that - I can think of no other troubleshooting steps than the ones shown on multiple threads in multiple forums for your exact issue.
     
  18. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Have you tried something as simple as replacing the hdmi cable?
     
  19. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    Now that you mention that the monitor used to do something similar with my ps4 and now it doesn't, i thought it was because of the weird angle that I had the cord plugged in from. I had to wiggle the wire then too, but now it's doing it with my computer. I'm using the same wires for my computer and ps4, so it can't be the wires are bad. Perhaps if the cord itself is pulling on the connecting part in a weird angle then that may be the reason why the issue occurs. In any case I'm just shooting in the dark right now, but the two problems seem similar enough. After all my ps4 used to be further away from the monitor than my computer prior to the move and now the pc is the one that is further away. It's now far enough away that the cord is really pulling on the connector, but the temporary fix is about the same both ways. My current setup since I haven't got the same amount of space won't allow me to move my computer closer but once things get settled I may be able to resolve the issue by moving the computer closer.
     
  20. Ichinzen

    Ichinzen Corporal

    hey is it possible the cable for the hdmi is coming loose and the end result is the flashing end eventual no signal i'm getting. In my last post I had stated that I had similar issues with my ps4. Since hdmi cables don't fasten in like dvi cables maybe perhaps that's the issue? After all when i adjust the cable part that is connected to the monitor then the issue seems to correct itself.
     

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