Much difference between "Acer" and "Asus"?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by grc123, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    Hi,

    I am today, seeing two Netbooks for sale, which appear to be identical (same processors/RAM/screen size/etc.) - only difference is, one is an Acer, and one is an Asus...and oh, $40 separates the two in price :-D

    Any advice, suggestions, or opinions, please? Any/All welcome............
     
  2. mcsmc

    mcsmc MajorGeek

    Acer is like the budget brand, while Asus is more of a name brand.
     
  3. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    Good to know...so, the Asus, at $40 LESS than the Acer, with all the same specs (they both match with CPU's, hard drive size, RAM, screen size, etc - as far as I can see/tell - all identical), is a MUCH better deal, eh?
     
  4. mcsmc

    mcsmc MajorGeek

    I would say yes. Acer isn't a BAD brand, mind you, just not as good as Asus AFAIK. If you go to the Asus website and look at their laptops, they're pretty heavy duty machines. Asus is also known for making good motherboards.

    I'd definitely go with the Asus, especially as it's cheaper too!
     
  5. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    TY-again-VM - however....I think I may have found, "the catch" (?)...the Asus is "refurbished" (though "Quality", Refurbished, haha).

    Do you know much about that scenario - "refurbished", "reconditioned", "restored" - anything of the sort?

    Reason I ask is one recent experience of mine (a 19" Polaroid LCD 720P Monitor) was not such a good experience. That thing seems to work for my sons video games, but as an actual computer monitor, it has this "QUIRK" (for lack of a better term), whereby it will simply SHUT-DOWN...

    Now, all I need to do is power it right back up, but it seems like, on average, about once every 24 hours or so it does (DID) this, hence, it no longer serves as a PC monitor, but rather sits-around waiting for someone to play a vid. game on it (ha). It became quite annoying after about the 2nd or 3rd time of it doing that. Once a day is 30 times a month (and 365 x's per year!!!), so...that would be VERY annoying.

    I suppose (??) it might work well-enough as a TV, I don't know, but the only thing I can think is that my Vista (Home) OS has more complex graphics (or electrical/electronic stressors of some sort) than the vid. game - which surprises me...!?!
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2011
  6. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi Glenn

    Had quite a few ACER laptops over the years and wouldnt have then down as a budget brand as they are one of the worlds largest PC makers (they do have some budget brands in their portfolio in eMachines, Gateway, Packard Bell) , quality of the ones I have/had have been superb, two are still working without fault now, but I do go for the mid to top range models and not the very basic entry level PCs.

    What I would say is its worth researching all the brands and work out if they will do what your requirements are, as many come with low ram or onboard graphics over dedicated graphics.

    But ASUS, ACER, HP, DELL do make great PCs, buts wouldnt personally go with the likes of eMachines, Packard Bell, Medion etc

    Plus I would not fault ASUS motherboards as I use them myself.
     
  7. mcsmc

    mcsmc MajorGeek

    Refurbished simply means it was likely already sold to a customer and was returned, possibly had a faulty part. Refurbished machines go through all of the final tests new products go through AGAIN before being put back on the market, and any faults corrected (faulty hardware replaced, etc.).

    I know Asus makes good laptops. They're not exactly the most portable, being made of heavy duty components (more metal, less plastic). Their netbooks I'm sure are different.

    The main thing I know about Acer is that their laptops have pretty light duty casing, and their monitors aren't the best.

    In the netbook world, honestly I'm not sure it would matter in this case, now that I've thought about it more... make sure you look at not only the speed specs, but the hardware makes (i.e. hard drive) to see if one of the two models you're looking at has better quality components in it.
     
  8. mcsmc

    mcsmc MajorGeek

    I have to disagree that HP makes good computers. I think since the (fairly) recent mergers (last few years), their PCs (and especially laptops) have taken a steep decline in quality. Same with Toshiba laptops.
     
  9. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    Very good David - thank you as always...and this is good news for me, in that I think I've found an HP laptop (and also refurbished) that i like better...I don't care for the extra 4180 I may spend on it, but it is MUCH superior in terms of everything compared to the more budget-friendly models that I was originally asking about here...! ;)

    Thanks again!
     
  10. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    OH NO!!! And then I see THIS!?! (hadn't originally seen it until after I posted my last message just now). rolleyes

    Oh well, maybe that is why the one I'm looking at needed refurbishing?!? :confused

    And the hunt continues............ :( (I loathe shopping) :wave
     
  11. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    Will do - thank you!

    Do you mean the "more metal, less plastic" is "different", please?
     
  12. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I own an ASUS netbook. When I researched (2007), Acer made it next to impossible to update the RAM. Since netbooks come with very little RAM (mine started life with 512MB), I did not want to have to dismantle my new purchase just to replace the 512 stick with a 1GB one.
    My ASUS has a RAM slot on the bottom. After I fired it up and used for a few hours to be sure it worked, I opened it up, took out the 512 stick and put in the 1GB stick. There is only one slot for memory.
    Also be aware that the processors in netbooks are low powered so expecting to do what you do on a fast notebook or desktop just isn't going to happen.
     
  13. thomas_nuffan

    thomas_nuffan Private First Class

    I disagree with the previous poster about the decline of Toshiba and HP. I think their laptops are outstanding and highly reccomend them (have a Toshiba myself). I work on Acer the most here at work and I'm turned off by thier quality of design. All I see is Gateway reborn :\

    Asus on the other-hand, I think also makes high quality machines. The only think I don't like from Asus is their website for downloading drivers
     
  14. mcsmc

    mcsmc MajorGeek

    I've fixed a lot of HPs and Toshiba laptops, and know a lot of people that have sold them super cheap in order to get a different machine, as they can't stand theirs anymore.

    OP: Yes, I mean the more metal less plastic different in netbooks. Netbooks are DESIGNED to be lightweight, no need to be heavy duty.
     
  15. thomas_nuffan

    thomas_nuffan Private First Class

    In retrospect, I've always believed the computer business is very much like the car industry. Guy (A) loves the car company "Ford" and has absolutely no issues with any vehicle he may own; while Guy (B) owns a "Ford" and has nothing but problems with his vehicle.

    The same scenarios can be said about the computer industry in my opinion.
     
  16. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I think this has to be a one of those times to agree to disagree as I have seen all PC makers have failure rates and some better than others, HP have in our work enviroment of 15K+ PCs being a mix of Dell and mostly HP are not so bad, and most users are novice so will test the patience of any PC.

    I personally have in my office DELL, 5 of them (not that I can use 5 at once!) and 2 have been a PITA, the others fine, last 2yrs they all behaved, but the HPs in the other part of my dept have all worked great no issues so far and they are tested to destruction by the users of these PCs, which is where I'm saying that they are OK, in my experience (as you are with yours) in the real world test, over hearsay on the net.

    I will agree that quality is an issue with PC makers but all are testing the limits with this.

    Think at the end of the day a personal build is far better then an OEM build to do, but you have to weigh up the experience of the user and the cost, at times its easier to buy OEM, if Glenn you where willing to build your own then no doubt we would help you in the steps to do this, within the budget you have.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2011
  17. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek


    Thanks for this plodr!


    Very interesting thanks. Now, how bad could the website be (?)...I mean, I'm very curious, what exactly was/is the issue(s) encountered, please (?) - and thanks again...


    Beautiful - thank you again...



    Well put - understood, agreed, and thanks again.


    Thanks as always David...I was seriously wanting to do my own build awhile-back, and had actually even started a thread here to that end, however, it was abandoned when my financial situation took several consecutive hits a few months ago.

    A bit of Good
    ;) News (!) ... --->>>

    Things have improved (ever-so-slightly), and, if no one would be in a rush to help me (and I certainly would not be demanding of it), I am entertaining the idea once again, based-on a number of factors.

    The only downer on this is that actually, at this time, I am more so needing something portable (whether laptop, notebook, or net-book, I am not sure at the moment), but again, I think I might begin to gather some parts for my own, personally-custom-built, good, STRONG/SECURE - "FAST" desktop/PC. And just so you know...though the more cerebral, "invisible" or intangible aspects of computers
    :confused largely (and often) escape me, :-o I am MUCH more capable with my hands, and actual, physical work, such as would be the case in building a machine (have been going into towers/cases/etc. to learn and change-out parts etc., for some years now - and have always worked with my hands - otherwise), so, we would have THAT in our favor/working for us in any joint effort to "build" something!! :major

    Thanks again - and see you all S00N! :wave
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2011
  18. thomas_nuffan

    thomas_nuffan Private First Class

    Very interesting thanks. Now, how bad could the website be (?)...I mean, I'm very curious, what exactly was/is the issue(s) encountered, please (?) - and thanks again...

    Asus driver updating in my opnion does feel very streamlined in my opinion.

    Here's some screenshots of a few Asus websites. Starting from the homepage, thinking like your typical standard user I would need a few moments to think of where to go for my drivers. Unlike Intel's website where it's right in your face.

    Going on to the next page, I get greated by a text box from Asus's website, and then once I finally go to the downloads section I can finally get to an auto-updater. Not very polished in my opinion for a professional website
     

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