My computer has a very slow start up. Can anyone help?

Discussion in 'Software' started by ColonelAngus, Feb 7, 2004.

  1. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    Hello,

    My specs are:

    Pentium 4 2.00 GHz
    384 MB of RAM
    Microsoft Windows XP
    Home Edition
    Version 2002
    Service Pack 1
    20 Gb Hard Drive

    When I turn on my computer it loads up to my desktop screen in about 10 seconds (that's fine) then for reasons that escape me it stalls on my desktop for about 90 seconds. While it's stalled on my desktop I can't click on anything or go into any folder. When the 90 seconds is up the windows welcome music plays, my Norton Antivirus and Zone Alarm Firewall load up and then I can finally use my computer.

    Why does my computer do this? It didn't always do this. It used to load up fast.

    I've tried Bootvis and Cacheman programs but that didn't change the start up time. I've limited the amount of things that load on start up in the msconfig option. I don't have a virus or spyware and I defragment regularly. I can't figure out why it does this.

    Someone please help.
     
  2. ArchAngel

    ArchAngel Sergeant

    Hey Colonel, haven't seen ya around in a while.
    Do you have X-teq? If not, get it. You can find it here.

    Make sure you have UDMA/66 enabled in HARDWARE/HARDDISK.

    Also you may want to play with the Prefetch stuff. That's in SYSTEM/FILE SYSTEM/WINDOWS PREFETCHING. Try clearing the prefetch folder. I even disabled prefetching altogether. Hope it helps. Good to see ya.
     
  3. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    I'm not a network pro, but I remember hearing that a botched network connection can cause the system to hang a while while Windows attempts to establish connection.
     
  4. ArchAngel

    ArchAngel Sergeant

    You are too modest. And correct, I might add.

     
  5. Hipster Doofus

    Hipster Doofus MajorGeek

    Some alternatives>>

    Correcting System Hang at Startup

    If your system hangs about 2 or 3 minutes at startup, where you can't access the Start button or the Taskbar, it may be due to one specific service (Background Intelligent Transfer) running in the background. Microsoft put out a patch (pre SP1) for this but
    it didn't work for me. Here's what you do:

    1. Go to the control panel/admin tools/.
    2. Go to the 'Services' tab, find the 'Background Intelligent Transfer' service, disable it, apply the changes & reboot.




    Also if not on a network disable 'workstation' at the same place as above.
     
  6. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    Thanks everybody. :) Major Geeks is fast, friendly and helpful as usuall. :) I'm going to try what was suggested tonight and hopefully I will solve the problem.

    Oh yeah... How do I fix a botched network connection if that is the problem?
     
  7. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    may not be a botched network connection.

    Wht you described sounds like DHCP timing out. It takes close to that time sometimes for DHCP to time out and to get an APIPA address. (169)

    If you are on PPPoE DSL, statically assign yourself a nonroutable IP address to your NIC, like 192.168.0.1. It wont hurt connecting to the net.

    Problem solved.
     
  8. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    When you say "network connection" do you mean internet connection? If so, why would that be an issue when turning on my computer? When I turn on my computer it doesn't connect to the internet. I have to turn on my modem and manually connect to the internet. And, I am on PPPoE DSL.

    Also, Adrynalne, I like your avatar picture.
     
  9. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    In this context, network connection would be in reference to Local Area Connection (your network card) in Network Connection in Control Panel.
     
  10. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    Ok, I get it now. I do have an IP address starting with 169. Should I change it like you said Adrynalyne? Am I supposed to be able to change my IP address? Will changing it cause problems?
     
  11. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    No, you dont need to change it. But if you want to fix your problem, go ahead.

    If this is the only computer and you arent on a network, then it will not hurt a thing.

    And even if it did, you simply undo the changes, and reboot your computer.
     
  12. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    If it were me, I would change it right now. I think you will be quite pleased with the results.

    Change it, then reboot and test results. Then come back here and post your findings.
     
  13. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    What do i go into to change my IP address?
     
  14. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    start-control panel.

    Switch to classic view.

    Double left click Network Connections.

    Right click Local Area Connection (should say enabled underneath), choose properties.

    Highlight Internet Protocol (TCP/P), choose properties.

    You will see this:
     
  15. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Make it look like this:

    Click OK All the way out when you are done.

    Reboot, and test.
     
  16. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    Didn't work :( My computer started up just as slow and it wouldn't let me connect to the internet after I changed it. Thanks for your help though. :)
     
  17. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Then I would guess you arent using PPPoE.

    Did you change the Local Area Connection, or the Broadband connection?
     
  18. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    WOW! Right when I clicked on Sbmit Rely the MG page disappeared!

    It's all better now.

    It say's that I'm using PPPoE. Anyway, I changed the Local Area Connection and it didn't work. Then I changed the Broadband Connection and it still didn't work.

    I don't know if this means anything but It say' that I have two Broadband Connecitons. Is that wierd?

    This is what they say:

    My ISP
    Disconnected, Firewalled
    WAN Miniport (PPPOE)

    Sympactico Access Manger
    Connected
    WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
     
  19. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    This would be easier over windows messenger. Do you use it?
     
  20. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    No. Sorry.
     
  21. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Ok, next test. Disable your network card. Yes, it will kick you offline.

    Reboot.

    See if its still slow. If it is, then your network connection has nothing to do with it.

    Hurry back ;)
     
  22. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    I should have logged out of MG before I disabled my network card. I didn't have to log in this time cause' it thought I was still logged in from last time. :D

    Anyway, I disabled my network card and it still took a long time to boot. :(
     
  23. dperino

    dperino Capt. Caveman

    CA,, check in your "network connections" and see if there are entries that you don't use. if there are,, delete them. I had the same bootup problem, and found 4 of them listed. Axed 'em, and no more problems.
     
  24. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Ok, its not your network connection.

    Download bootvis from MG. Not only will it optimize boot time, but it will show you in the form of a graph what time it takes to load different stuff.

    Report back what you find.
    Maybe even make a screenshot of the graph for everyone to examine.

    I'm trying my best, but unfortunately, message board troubleshooting is slow and clumsy.
     
  25. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    Thanks Adrynalyne. I appreciate you helping me. I used Bootvis before and it didn't help. When I used Bootvis before the Bootvis graph showed a huge gap in activity and never fixed it. If all else fails I will download ir again and do what you suggested.

    @ dperino - there were two Broadband Connections and I got rid of one of them but nothing improved. Thanks for the suggestion though.
     
  26. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    I'm going to try ArchAngel's suggestion next. I will let ya' know how it turns out.
     
  27. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    I know it's been a few day's but I hope people are still interested in my problem.


    @ robo - My computer will not start up in Safe Mode. It gets stuck on a bunch of lines of text that have something to do with System32 stuff. Do you or anyone out threre know wht to do?
     
  28. i64SCREEMER

    i64SCREEMER Private E-2

    What OS u running sounds like since ur seeing repeated lines of system32 ur trying to boot to safemode in either windows 2000 or windows XP. if this is the case it can take up to 5-10 min to boot an xp or 2k machine in safe mode depending on how hosed up the os is so be a good doctor and have lots of patients.

    if still no luck then ur looking at a clean OS reload. in laymans terms this means booting to a windows 98 startup disk and fdisking and formatting your hard drive [yes i said loose any and all data] and start over. if your wondering why i so friviously suggest that is i dont believe in after the f-up data recovery.

    if u need help with this write me back at webdevii@hotmail.com and i will send u a help sheet step x step.

    good luck
    Rob
     

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