My first thoughts after the election...

Thursday, November 4th, 2004

My first thoughts after the election...

Cpl. Roberto Abad, Sgt. Michael D. Acklin II, Spc. Genaro Acosta, Pfc. Steven Acosta, Capt. James F. Adamouski, Pvt. Algernon Adams, Sgt. Brandon E. Adams, Spc. Clarence Adams III, 1st Lt. Michael R. Adams, Pfc. Michael S. Adams, Lt. Thomas Mullen Adams, Spc. Jamaal R. Addison, Lance Cpl. Patrick R. Adle, Capt. Tristan N. Aitken, Spc. Segun Frederick Akintade, Lance Cpl. Nickalous N. Aldrich, Spc. Ronald D. Allen Jr., Sgt. Glenn R. Allison, Lance Cpl. Michael J. Allred, Capt. Eric L. Allton, Cpl. Nicanor Alvarez, Cpl. Daniel R. Amaya, Pfc. John D. Amos II, Lance Cpl. Brian E. Anderson, Airman 1st Class Carl L. Anderson Jr., Petty Officer 2nd Class Michael C. Anderson, Spc. Michael Andrade, Pfc, Spc. Yoe M. Aneiros, Lance Cpl. Levi T. Angell, Army Spc. Edward J. Anguiano, Chief Warrant Officer Andrew Todd Arnold, Lance Cpl. Alexander S. Arredondo, Spc. Richard Arriaga, Staff Sgt. Jimmy J. Arroyave, Spc. Robert R. Arsiaga, Sgt. Evan Asa Ashcraft, Pfc. Shawn M. Atkins, Maj. Jay Aubin, Capt. Matthew J. August, Lance Cpl. Aaron C. Austin, Spc. Tyanna S. Avery-Fedder, Lance Cpl. Andrew Julian Aviles, Pfc. Eric A. Ayon, Sgt. 1st Class Henry A. Bacon, Sgt. Andrew Joseph Baddick, Staff Sgt. Daniel A. Bader, Staff Sgt. Nathan J. Bailey, Spc. Ronald W. Baker, Spc. Ryan T. Baker, Sgt. Sherwood R. Baker.

Pfc. Chad E. Bales, 1st Lt. Kenneth Michael Ballard, Maj. Spc. Solomon C. Bangayan, Lt. Col. Dominic R. Baragona, Pfc. Mark A. Barbret, Pfc. Collier E. Barcus, Sgt. Michael C. Barkey, Spc. Jonathan P. Barnes, Command Sgt. Maj. Edward C. Barnhill, Lance Cpl. Aric J. Barr, Sgt. Michael Paul Barrera, Maj. Carlos Barro Ollero, Sgt. Douglas E. Bascom, Spc. Todd M. Bates, Sgt. 1st Class Michael Battles Sr., Gunnery Sgt. Ronald E. Baum, Spc. Alan N. Bean Jr., Spc. Bradley S. Beard, Spc. Beau R. Beaulieu, Capt. Ryan Beaupre, Spc. James L. Beckstrand, Sgt. Gregory A. Belanger, Cpl. Christopher Belchik, Sgt. Aubrey D. Bell, Pfc. Wilfred D. Bellard, Staff Sgt. Joseph P. Bellavia, Sgt. 1st Class William M. Bennett, Spc. Robert T. Benson, 1st Lt. David R. Bernstein, Spc. Joel L. Bertoldie, Staff Sgt. Stephen A. Bertolino Sr., Staff Sgt. Marvin Best, Cpl. Mark A. Bibby, Sgt. Benjamin W. Biskie, Sgt. Michael E. Bitz, Sgt. Jarrod W. Black, Chief Warrant Officer Michael T. Blaise, Capt. Ernesto M. Blanco, Command Sgt. Maj. James D. Blankenbecler, Spc. Joseph M. Blickenstaff, Spc. Nicholas H. Blodgett, Sgt. Trevor A. Blumberg, Lance Cpl. Jeremy L. Bohlman, Gunnery Sgt. Jeffrey E. Bohr Jr., Lance Cpl. Todd J. Bolding, Sgt. Dennis J. Boles, Sgt. 1st Class Craig A. Boling, Petty Officer 3rd Class Doyle W. Bollinger Jr, Sgt. 1st Class Kelly Bolor, Staff Sgt. Stevon A. Booker.

Chief Warrant Officer Clarence E. Boone, Capt. John J. Boria, Pfc. Rachel K. Bosveld, Spc. Mathew G. Boule, Staff Sgt. Elvis Bourdon, Pvt. 1st Class Samuel R. Bowen, Staff Sgt. Hesley Box Jr., Pvt. Noah L. Boye, Lance Cpl. Aaron Boyles, Spc. Edward W. Brabazon, Cpl. Travis J. Bradach-Nall, Staff Sgt. Kenneth R. Bradley, Staff Sgt. Stacey C. Brandon, Spc. Artimus D. Brassfield, Pfc. Joel K. Brattain, Pfc. Jeffrey F. Braun, Chief Warrant Officer William I. Brennan, Staff Sgt. Steven H. Bridges, Spc. Kyle A. Brinlee, Staff Sgt. Cory W. Brooks, Sgt. Thomas F. Broomhead, Sgt. Andrew W. Brown, Tech. Sgt. Bruce E. Brown, Lance Cpl. Dominic C. Brown, Cpl. Henry L. Brown, Pfc. John E. Brown, Spc. Larry K. Brown, Spc. Lunsford B. Brown II, 1st Lt. Tyler H. Brown, Spc. Philip D. Brown, Pfc. Timmy R. Brown Jr., 1st Lt. Tyler H. Brown, Cpl. Andrew D. Brownfield, Petty Officer 3rd Class Nathan B. Bruckenthal, Lance Cpl. Cedric E. Bruns, 2nd Lt. Todd J. Bryant, Sgt. Ernest G. Bucklew, Spc. Roy Russell Buckley, Pfc. Paul J. Bueche, Lt. Col. Charles H. Buehring, Lance Cpl. Brian Rory Buesing, Sgt. George Edward Buggs, Spc. Joshua I. Bunch, Staff Sgt. Christopher Bunda, Staff Sgt. Michael L. Burbank, Staff Sgt. Richard A. Burdick, Spc. Alan J. Burgess, Lance Cpl. Jeffrey C. Burgess, Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett, Sgt. Travis L. Burkhardt.

Pfc. David P. Burridge, Pfc. Jesse R. Buryj, Pfc. Charles E. Bush Jr., Pvt. Matthew D. Bush, Pfc. Damian S. Bushart, Sgt. Jacob L. Butler, Capt. Joshua T. Byers, Cpl. Juan C. Cabralbanuelos, Pfc. Cody S. Calavan, Sgt. Juan Calderon Jr, Sgt. Charles T. Caldwell, Spc. Nathaniel A. Caldwell, Staff Sgt. Joseph Camara, Spc. Michael C. Campbell, Sgt. Ryan M. Campbell, Spc. Marvin A. Camposiles, Spc. Isaac Campoy, Spc. Ervin Caradine Jr., Spc. Adolfo C. Carballo, Pfc. Michael M. Carey, Cpl. Richard P. Carl, Pfc. Ryan G. Carlock, Pfc. Benjamin R. Carman, Staff Sgt. Edward W. Carmen, Spc. Jocelyn L. Carrasquillo, Sgt. Frank T. Carvill, Capt. Christopher S. Cash, Spc. Ahmed A. Cason, Pfc. Jose Casanova, Lance Cpl. James A. Casper, Capt. Paul J. Cassidy, Staff Sgt. Roland L. Castro, Sgt. Sean K. Cataudella, Lance Cpl. Steven C. T. Cates, Pfc. Thomas D. Caughman, Staff Sgt. James W. Cawley, Spc. Jessica L. Cawvey, Petty Officer 3rd Class David A. Cedergren, Lance Cpl. Manuel A. Ceniceros, Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, Spc. James A. Chance III, Staff Sgt. William D. Chaney, Chief Warrant Officer Robert William Channell Jr., Spc. Jason K. Chappell, Pfc. Jonathan M. Cheatham, Sgt. Yohjyh L. Chen, Lance Cpl. Marcus M. Cherry, 2nd Lt. Therrel S. Childers, Spc. Andrew F. Chris.

Staff Sgt. Thomas W. Christensen, Spc. Brett T. Christian, Spc. Arron R. Clark, Staff Sgt. Michael J. Clark, Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline Jr., Pfc. Christopher R. Cobb, Lance Cpl. Kyle W. Codner, 1st Sgt. Christopher D. Coffin, Pvt. Bradli N. Coleman, Cpl. Gary B. Coleman, 2nd Lt. Benjamin J. Colgan, Sgt. Russell L. Collier, Sgt. 1st Class Gary L. Collins, Lance Cpl. Jonathan W. Collins, Chief Warrant Officer Lawrence S. Colton, Spc. Zeferino E. Colunga, Sgt. Robert E. Colvill, Sgt. Kenneth Conde Jr., Sgt. Timothy M. Conneway, Spc. Steven D. Conover, Capt. Aaron J. Contreras, Lance Cpl. Pedro Contreras, Sgt. Jason Cook, Command Sgt. Major Eric F. Cooke, Sgt. Dennis A. Corral, Chief Warrant Officer Alexander S. Coulter, 2nd Lt. Leonard M. Cowherd, Spc. Gregory A. Cox, Pfc. Ryan R. Cox, Lance Corporal Timothy R. Creager, Sgt. Michael T. Crockett, Staff Sgt. Ricky L. Crockett, Sgt. Brud J. Cronkrite, Lance Cpl. Kyle D. Crowley, Pvt. Rey D. Cuervo, Pfc. Kevin A. Cuming, Spc. Daniel Francis J. Cunningham, Staff Sgt. Darren J. Cunningham, Spc. Carl F. Curran, Cpl. Michael Edward Curtin, Staff Sgt. Christopher E. Cutchall, Pfc. Brian K. Cutter, Pfc. Anthony D. D'Agostino, Spc. Edgar P. Daclan Jr., Capt. Nathan S. Dalley, Lance Cpl. Andrew S. Dang, Spc. Danny B. Daniels II, Pvt. 1st Class Torey J. Dantzler, Pfc. Norman Darling, Capt. Eric B. Das.

Spc. Shawn M. Davies, Pvt. Brandon L. Davis, Staff Sgt. Craig Davis, Staff Sgt. Donald N. Davis, Spc. Raphael S. Davis, Staff Sgt. Wilbert Davis, Staff Sgt. Jeffrey F. Dayton, Pvt. Jason L. Deibler, Spc. Lauro G. DeLeon Jr., Sgt. Felix M. Delgreco, Sgt. Jacob H. Demand, Staff Sgt. Mike A. Dennie, Spc. Darryl T. Dent, Pfc. Ervin Dervishi, Spc. Daniel A. Desens, Pfc. Michael R. Deuel, Pvt. Michael J. Deutsch, Petty Officer 3rd Class Christopher M. Dickerson, Cpl. Nicholas J. Dieruf, Spc. Jeremiah J. DiGiovanni, Spc. Jeremy M. Dimaranan, Spc. Michael A. Diraimondo, Spc. Anthony J. Dixon, Spc. Ryan E. Doltz, Sgt. Michael E. Dooley, Chief Warrant Officer Patrick D. Dorff, Petty Officer 2nd Class Trace W. Dossett, Lance Cpl. Scott E. Dougherty, 1st Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, Pfc. Stephen P. Downing II, Spc. Chad H. Drake, Pvt. Jeremy L. Drexler, Cpl. Jason L. Dunham, Staff Sgt. Joe L. Dunigan Jr., Spc. Robert L. DuSang, Spc. William D. Dusenbery, 2nd Lt. Seth J. Dvorin, Petty Officer 2nd Class Jason B. Dwelley, Pfc. Sheldon R. Hawk Eagle, Staff Sgt. Richard S. Eaton Jr., Cpl. Christopher S. Ebert, Sgt. William C. Eckhart, Spc. Marshall L. Edgerton, Pfc. Shawn C. Edwards, Spc. Andrew C. Ehrlich, Sgt. Aaron C. Elandt, Spc. William R. Emanuel IV, Lance Cpl. Mark E. Engel, Spc. Peter G. Enos, Senior Airman Pedro I. Espaillat Jr.

Pfc. Analaura Esparza Gutierrez, Sgt. Adam W. Estep, Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto, Pfc. David Evans, Cpl. Mark A. Evnin, Pfc. Jeremy Ricardo Ewing, Sgt. Justin L. Eyerly, Pvt. Jonathan I. Falaniko, Sgt. James D. Faulkner, Pfc. Raymond J. Faulstich Jr., Capt. Brian R. Faunce, Capt. Arthur L. Felder, 2nd Lt. Paul M. Felsberg, Spc. Rian C. Ferguson, Master Sgt. Richard L. Ferguson, Master Sgt. George A. Fernandez, Staff Sgt. Clint D. Ferrin, Spc. Jon P. Fettig, Cpl. Tyler R. Fey, Sgt. Jeremy J. Fischer, Sgt. Paul F. Fisher, Lance Cpl. Dustin R. Fitzgerald, Pfc. Jacob S. Fletcher, Spc. Thomas A. Foley III, Sgt. Timothy Folmar, Gunnery Sgt. Elia P. Fontecchio, Spc. Jason C. Ford, Capt. Travis A. Ford, Chief Warrant Officer Wesley C. Fortenberry, Sgt. 1st Class Bradley C. Fox, Spc. Craig S. Frank, Lance Cpl. Phillip E. Frank, Staff Sgt. Bobby C. Franklin, Pvt. Robert L. Frantz, Pvt. Benjamin L. Freeman, Sgt. David T. Friedrich, Spc. Luke P. Frist, Spc. Adam D. Froehlich, Pvt. Kurt R. Frosheiser, Pfc. Nichole M. Frye, Sgt. 1st Class Dan H. Gabrielson, Lance Cpl. Jonathan E. Gadsden, Capt. Richard J. Gannon II, Spc. Tomas Garces, Lance Cpl. Derek L. Gardner, Cpl. Jose A. Garibay, Spc. Joseph M. Garmback Jr., Sgt. Landis W. Garrison, Sgt. Justin W. Garvey, Spc. Israel Garza.

1st Sgt. Joe J. Garza, Pfc. Juan Guadalupe Garza Jr, Spc. Christopher D. Gelineau, Lance Cpl. Cory Ryan Guerin, Cpl. Christopher A. Gibson, Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, Pvt. Kyle C. Gilbert, Command Sgt. Maj. Cornell W. Gilmore, Petty Officer 3rd Class Ronald A. Ginther, Pfc. Jesse A. Givens, Spc. Michael T. Gleason, Cpl. Todd J. Godwin, 2nd Lt. James Michael Goins, Spc. Christopher A. Golby, Spc. David J. Goldberg, Lance Cpl. Shane L. Goldman, Cpl. Armando Ariel Gonzalez, Lance Cpl. Benjamin R. Gonzalez, Cpl. Jesus A. Gonzalez, Cpl. Jorge Gonzalez, Lance Cpl. Victor A. Gonzalez, Cpl. Bernard G. Gooden, Pfc. Gregory R. Goodrich, Sgt. 1st Class Richard S. Gottfried, Spc. Richard A. Goward, 2nd Lt. Jeffrey C. Graham, Sgt. Jamie A. Gray, Petty Officer 2nd Class Michael J. Gray, Sgt. Tommy L. Gray, Lance Cpl. Torrey L. Gray, Cpl. Jeffrey G. Green, Lt. Col. David S. Greene, Pfc. Devin J. Grella, Spc. Kyle A. Griffin, Staff Sgt. Patrick Lee Griffin Jr., Cpl. Sean R. Grilley, Pvt. Joseph R. Guerrera, Chief Warrant Officer Hans N. Gukeisen, Pfc. Christian D. Gurtner, Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, Pfc. Richard W. Hafer, Staff Sgt. Guy S. Hagy Jr., Spc. Charles G. Haight, Lance Cpl. Michael J. Halal, Pfc. Deryk L. Hallal, Pvt. Jesse M. Halling, Pfc. Andrew Halverson, Chief Warrant Officer Erik A. Halvorsen, Capt. Kimberly N. Hampton, Sgt. Michael S. Hancock.

Pfc. Fernando B. Hannon, Sgt. Warren S. Hansen, Sgt. James W. Harlan, Sgt. Atanacio Haro Marin, Staff Sgt. William M. Harrell, Sgt. Foster L. Harrington, Pfc. Adam J. Harris, Sgt. Kenneth W. Harris Jr., Pfc. Torry D. Harris, Pfc. Leroy Harris-Kelly, Pfc. John D. Hart, Sgt. Nathaniel Hart, Sgt. 1st Class David A. Hartman, Sgt. Jonathan N. Hartman, Staff Sgt. Stephen C. Hattamer, Staff Sgt. Omer T. Hawkins II, Sgt. Timothy L. Hayslett, Chief Warrant Officer Brian D. Hazelgrove, Sgt. David M. Heath, Spc. Justin W. Hebert, Pfc. Damian L. Heidelberg, Pfc. Raheen Tyson Heighter, Spc. Jeremy M. Heines, Staff Sgt. Brian R. Hellerman, Staff Sgt. Terry W. Hemingway, Cpl. Matthew C. Henderson, 1st Lt. Robert L. Henderson II, Staff Sgt. Kenneth W. Hendrickson, Sgt. Jack T. Hennessy, Spc. Joshua J. Henry, Pfc. Clayton W. Henson, Spc. Armando Hernandez, Spc. Joseph F. Herndon II, Pfc. Edward J. Herrgott, Spc. Jacob B. Herring, Sgt. 1st Class Gregory B. Hicks, Spc. Christopher K. Hill, Spc. Stephen D. Hiller, Sgt. Keicia M. Hines, Pfc. Melissa J. Hobart, Sgt. Nicholas M. Hodson, Sgt. 1st Class James T. Hoffman, Spc. Christopher J. Holland, Staff Sgt. Aaron N. Holleyman, Staff Sgt. Lincoln D. Hollinsaid, Spc. James J. Holmes, Spc. Jeremiah J. Holmes, Cpl. Terry Holmes, Airman 1st Class Antoine J. Holt, Pfc. Sean Horn, Master Sgt. Kelly L. Hornbeck.

Staff Sgt. Jeremy R. Horton, Capt. Andrew R. Houghton, Lance Cpl Gregory C. Howman, Pfc. Bert E. Hoyer, Spc. Corey A. Hubbell, Pfc. Christopher E. Hudson, 1st Lt. Doyle M. Hufstedler, Staff Sgt. Jamie L. Huggins, Spc. Eric R. Hull, Cpl Barton R. Humlhanz, Lance Cpl. Justin T. Hunt, Spc. Simeon Hunte, 1st Lt. Joshua C. Hurley, Lance Cpl. James B. Huston Jr., Lance Cpl. Seth Huston, Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, Pfc. Ray J. Hutchinson, Pfc. Gregory P. Huxley Jr., Spc. Benjamin W. Isenberg, Spc. Craig S. Ivory, Pfc. Leslie D. Jackson, Spc. Morgen N. Jacobs, Chief Warrant Officer Scott Jamar, Cpl. Evan T. James, 2nd Lt. Luke S. James, Spc. William A. Jeffries, Petty Officer 2nd Class Robert B. Jenkins, Sgt. Troy David Jenkins, Spc. Darius T. Jennings, Pfc. Ryan M. Jerabek, Sgt. Linda C. Jimenez, 1st Lt. Oscar Jimenez, Capt. Christopher B. Johnson, Spc. David W. Johnson, Pfc. Howard Johnson II, Spc. John P. Johnson, Pfc. Markus J. Johnson, Spc. Maurice J. Johnson, Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class Michael Vann Johnson Jr., Spc. Nathaniel H. Johnson, Staff Sgt. Paul J. Johnson, Chief Warrant Officer, Pfc. Rayshawn S. Johnson, Pvt. Devon D. Jones, Capt. Gussie M. Jones, Staff Sgt. Raymond E. Jones Jr., Spc. Rodney A. Jones, Lt. Kylan A. Jones- Huffman, Sgt. Curt E. Jordan Jr., Sgt. Jason D. Jordan.

Staff Sgt. Phillip A. Jordan, Cpl. Forest J. Jostes, Spc. Spencer T. Karol, Spc. Michael G. Karr Jr., Spc. Mark J. Kasecky, 1st Lt. Jeffrey J. Kaylor, Spc. Chad L. Keith, Lance Cpl. Quinn A. Keith, Lance Cpl. Bryan P. Kelly, Cpl. Brian Kennedy, Chief Warrant Officer Kyran E. Kennedy, Staff Sgt. Morgan D. Kennon, 1st Lt. Christopher J. Kenny, Spc. Jonathan R. Kephart, Cpl. Dallas L. Kerns, Chief Warrant Officer Erik C. Kesterson, Capt. Humayun S. M. Khan, Spc. James M. Kiehl, Pt. Jeungjin Na Kim, Staff Sgt. Kevin C. Kimmerly. Spc. Levi B. Kinchen, Staff Sgt. Lester O. Kinney II, Pfc. David M. Kirchhoff, Staff Sgt. Charles A. Kiser, Lance Cpl. Nicholas Brian Kleiboeker, Spc. John K. Klinesmith Jr., Sgt. Floyd G. Knighten Jr., Petty Officer 3rd Class Eric L. Knott, Spc. Joshua L. Knowles, Staff Sgt. Lance J. Koenig, Cpl. Kevin T. Kolm, Pfc. Martin W. Kondor, Chief Warrant Patrick W. Kordsmeier, Capt. Edward J. Korn, Sgt. Bradley S. Korthaus, Cpl. Jakub Henryk Kowalik, Sgt. Elmer C. Krause, Pvt. Dustin L. Kreider, Pfc. Bradley G. Kritzer, Capt. John F. Kurth, Sgt. 1st Class William W. Labadie Jr., Sgt. Joshua S. Ladd, Sgt. Michael V. Lalush, Lance Cpl. Alan Dinh Lam, Spc. Charles R. Lamb, Spc. James I. Lambert III, Pfc. James P. Lambert, Sgt. Jonathan W. Lambert, Capt. Andrew David Lamont, Staff Sgt. Sean G. Landrus, Gunnery Sgt. Shawn A. Lane.

Pfc. Moises A. Langhorst, Spc. Tracy L. Laramore, Spc. Scott Q. Larson Jr., Chief Warrant Officer Matthew C. Laskowski, Staff Sgt. William T. Latham, Pfc. Karina S. Lau, Cpl. Jeffrey D. Lawrence, Staff Sgt. Mark A. Lawton, Lance Cpl. Travis J. Layfield, Staff Sgt. Rene Ledesma, 2nd Lt. Ryan Leduc, Cpl. Bum R. Lee, Pfc. Ken W. Leisten, Staff Sgt. Jerome Lemon, Spc. Cedric L. Lennon, Pfc. Farad K. Letufuga, Spc. Justin W. Linden, Spc. Roger G. Ling, Spc. Joseph L. Lister, Staff Sgt. Nino D. Livaudais, Sgt. Dale T. Lloyd, Sgt. Daniel J. Londono, Spc. Ryan P. Long, Spc. Zachariah W. Long, Pfc. Duane E. Longstreth, Sgt. Edgar E. Lopez, Lance Cpl. Juan Lopez, Sgt. Richard M. Lord, Staff Sgt. David L. Loyd, Capt. Robert L. Lucero, Pfc. Jason C. Ludiam, Lance Cpl. Jacob R. Lugo, Pfc. Jason N. Lynch, Pfc. Christopher D. Mabry, Lance Cpl. Gregory E. MacDonald, Lance Cpl. Cesar F. Machado-Olmos, Pfc. Vorn J. Mack, Lance Cpl. Joseph B. Maglione, Spc. William J. Maher III, Staff Sgt. Toby W. Mallet, Chief Warrant Officer Ian D. Manuel, Pfc. Pablo Manzano, Pfc. Lyndon A. Marcus Jr., Staff Sgt. Paul C. Mardis Jr., Cpl. Douglas Jose Marencoreyes, Master Sgt. Jude C. Mariano, Spc. James E. Marshall, Sgt. 1st Class John W. Marshall, Pfc. Ryan A. Martin, Staff Sgt. Stephen G. Martin.

Sgt. Francisco Martinez, Pfc. Francisco A. Martinez Flores, Pfc. Jesse J. Martinez, Spc. Michael A. Martinez, Pfc. Oscar A. Martinez, Spc. Jacob D. Martir, Sgt. Arthur S. Mastrapa, Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, Lance Cpl. Ramon Mateo, Spc. Clint Richard Matthews, Lance Cpl. Ramon Mateo, Cpl. Matthew E. Matula, Staff Sgt. Donald C. May Jr, Pfc. Joseph P. Mayek, Spc. Patrick R. McCaffrey Sr., Lance Cpl. Joseph C. MacCarthy, Pfc. Ryan M. McCauley, Cpl. Brad P. McCormick, 1st Lt. Erik. S. McCrae, Spc. Donald R. McCune, Spc. Dustin K. McGaugh, Pfc. Holly J. McGeogh, Sgt. Brian D. McGinnis, Spc. Michael A. McGlothin. Petty Officer 2nd Class Scott R. McHugh, Hospitalman Joshua McIntosh, Spc. David M. McKeever, Spc. Eric S. McKinley, Pvt. Robert L. McKinley, Staff Sgt. Don S. McMahan, Sgt. Heath A. McMillin, 1st Lt. Brian M. McPhillips, Cpl. Jesus Martin Antonio Medellin, Spc. Irving Medina, Spc. Kenneth A. Melton, Cpl. Jaygee Meluat, Petty Officer 3rd Class Fernando A. Mendezaceves, Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Menusa, Staff Sgt. Eddie E. Menyweather, Spc. Gil Mercado, Spc. Michael M. Merila, Spc. Christopher A. Merville, Sgt. Daniel K. Methvin, Pfc. Jason M. Meyer, Sgt. Eliu A. Miersandoval, Spc. Michael G. Mihalakis, Pfc. Matthew G. Milczark, Cpl. Jason David Mileo, Pfc. Anthony S. Miller, Pfc. Bruce Miller Jr., Staff Sgt. Frederick L. Miller Jr.

Sgt. 1st Class Marvin L. Miller, Sgt. Joseph Minucci II, Sgt. First Class Troy L. Miranda, Spc. George A. Mitchell, Sgt. Keman L. Mitchell, Sgt. Michael W. Mitchell, Spc. Sean R. Mitchell, Pfc. Jesse D. Mizener, Staff Sgt. Jorge A. Molinabautista, Pfc. Anthony W. Monroe, 1st Lt. Adam G. Mooney, Lance Cpl. Jason William Moore, Pfc. Stuart W. Moore, Sgt. Travis A. Moothart, Spc. Jose L. Mora, Sgt. Melvin Y. Mora, Pfc. Michael A. Mora, Master Sgt. Kevin N. Morehead, Capt. Brent L. Morel, Petty Officer 3rd Class David J. Moreno, Sgt. Gerardo Moreno, Spc. Jaime Moreno, Pfc. Luis A. Moreno, Spc. Dennis B. Morgan, Staff Sgt. Richard L. Morgan Jr., Pfc. Geoffery S. Morris, Pfc. Ricky A. Morris Jr., Lance Cpl. Nicholas B. Morrison, Sgt. Shawna M. Morrison, Sgt. Keelan L. Moss, Spc. Clifford L. Moxley Jr., Sgt. Cory R. Mracek, Sgt. Rodney A. Murray, Sgt. Krisna Nachampassak, Spc. Paul T. Nakamura, Spc. Nathan W. Nakis, Pvt. Kenneth A. Nalley, Chief Warrant Officer Christopher G. Nason, Maj. Kevin G. Nave, Spc. Rafael L. Navea, Spc. Charles L. Neeley, Staff Sgt. Paul M. Neff II, Pfc. Gavin L. Neighbor, Spc. Joshua M. Neusche, Cpl. Dominique J. Nicolas, Lance Cpl. Joseph L. Nice, Spc. Isaac Michael Nieves, Lance Cpl. Patrick R. Nixon, Spc. Allen Nolan, Spc. Marcos O. Nolasco.

Sgt. William J. Normandy, Spc. Joseph C. Norquist, 1st Lt. Leif E. Nott, Staff Sgt. Todd E. Nunes, Spc. David T. Nutt, Cpl. Mick R. Nygardbekowsky, Spc. Donald S. Oak Jr., Pfc. Branden F. Oberleitner, Lance Cpl. Patrick T. O'Day, Spc. Charles E. Odums II, Spc. Ramon C. Ojeda, Cpl. Terry Holmes Ordonez, Cpl. Brian Oliveira, Spc. Justin B. Onwordi, Spc. Richard P. Orengo, Lt. Col. Kim S. Orlando, Lance Cpl. Eric J. Orlowski, 1st Lt. Osbaldo Orozco, Pfc. Cody J. Orr, Staff Sgt. Billy J. Orton, Sgt. Pamela G. Osbourne, Lance Cpl. Deshon E. Otey, Pfc. Kevin C. Ott, Sgt. Michael G. Owen, Lance Cpl. David Edward Owens Jr, Sgt. Fernando Padilla- Ramirez, Pvt. Shawn D. Pahnke, Spc. Gabriel T. Palacios, Capt. Eric T. Paliwoda, 1st Lt. Joshua M. Palmer, Staff Sgt. Dale A. Panchot, Pfc. Daniel R. Parker, Pfc. James D. Parker, Pfc. Kristen Parker, Cpl. Tommy L. Parker Jr., Sgt. Harvey E. Parkerson III, Sgt. David B. Parson, Staff Sgt. Esau G. Patterson Jr., Master Sgt. William L. Payne, Sgt. Michael F. Pedersen, Staff Sgt. Abraham D. Penamedina, Spc. Brian H. Penisten, Sgt. Ross A. Pennanen, Staff Sgt. Gregory V. Pennington, Pfc. Geoffrey Perez, Staff Sgt. Hector R. Perez, Sgt. Joel Perez, Spc. Jose A. Perez III, Pfc. Luis A. Perez, Lance Cpl. Nicholas Perez.

Spc. Wilfredo Perez Jr., Petty Officer 1st Class Michael J. Pernaselli, Staff Sgt. David S. Perry, Pfc. Charles C. Persing, Staff Sgt. Dustin W. Peters, Spc. Alyssa R. Peterson, Staff Sgt. Brett J. Petriken, Staff Sgt. James L. Pettaway Jr., Staff Sgt. Erickson H. Petty, Pfc. Jerrick M. Petty, Lt. Col. Mark P. Phelan, Pfc. Chance R. Phelps, Sgt. 1st Class Gladimir Philippe, Sgt. Ivory L. Phipps, Capt. Pierre E. Piche, Pfc. Lori Piestewa, Capt. Dennis L. Pintor, Spc. James H. Pirtle, Pfc. Jason T. Poindexter, 2nd Lt. Frederick E. Pokorney Jr., Staff Sgt. Andrew R. Pokorny, Spc. Justin W. Pollard, Spc. Larry E. Polley Jr., Sgt. Darrin K. Potter, Pfc. David L. Potter, Sgt. Christopher S. Potts, Spc. James E. Powell, Lance Cpl. Caleb J. Powers, Cpl. Dean P. Pratt, Pfc. James E. Prevete, Pvt. Kelley S. Prewitt, Sgt. Tyler D. Prewitt, Pfc. James W. Price, 1st Lt. Timothy E. Price, Lance Cpl. Mathew D. Puckett, Sgt. Jaror C. Puello- Coronado, Staff Sgt. Michael B. Quinn, Staff Sgt. Richard P. Ramey, Sgt. Christopher Ramirez, Spc. Eric U. Ramirez, Pfc. William C. Ramirez, Pfc. Christopher Ramos, Spc. Tamarra J. Ramos, Pfc. Brandon Ramsey, Pvt. Carson J. Ramsey, Sgt. Edmond L. Randle, Pfc. Cleston C. Raney, Capt. Gregory A. Ratzlaff, Spc. Rel A. Ravago IV, Spc. Omead H. Razani.

Spc. Brandon M. Read, Pfc. Christopher J. Reed, Pfc. Ryan E. Reed, Sgt. Tatjana Reed, Staff Sgt. Aaron T. Reese, Spc. Jeremy F. Regnier, Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, Sgt. Brendon C. Reiss, Staff Sgt. George S. Rentschler, Sgt. Sean C. Reynolds, Lance Cpl. Rafael Reynosa- Suarez, Sgt. Yadir G. Reynoso, Cpl. Demetrius L. Rice, Sgt. Ariel Rico, Spc. Jeremy L. Ridlen, Pfc. Diego Fernando Rincon, Cpl. Steven A. Rintamaki, Sgt. Duane R. Rios, Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, Pfc. Henry C. Risner, Sgt. 1st Class Jose A. Rivera, Cpl. John T. Rivero, Spc. Frank K. Rivers Jr., Sgt. Thomas D. Robbins, Sgt. Todd J. Robbins, Lance Cpl. Anthony P. Roberts, Lance Cpl. Bob W. Roberts, Spc. Robert D. Roberts, Staff Sgt. Joseph E. Robsky, Sgt. Moses D. Rocha, Pfc. Marlin T. Rockhold, Pfc. Jose Francis Gonzalez Rodriguez, Cpl. Robert M. Rodriguez, Spc. Philip G. Rogers, Sgt. 1st Class Robert E. Rooney, Cpl. Randal Kent Rosacker, Staff Sgt. Victor A. Rosales, Pfc. Richard H. Rosas, Sgt. Scott C. Rose, Sgt. Thomas C. Rosenbaum, Sgt. Randy S. Rosenberg, Spc. Marco D. Ross, Sgt. Lawrence A. Roukey, Capt. Alan Rowe, Spc. Brandon J. Rowe, Sgt. Roger D. Rowe, 2nd Lt. Jonathan D. Rozier, Spc. Isela Rubalcava, Pfc. Aaron J. Rusin, Sgt. John W. Russell.

1st Lt. Timothy Louis Ryan, Chief Warrant Officer Scott A. Saboe, Spc. Rasheed Sahib, Cpl. Rudy Salas, Cpl. William I. Salazar, 1st Lt. Edward M. Saltz, Capt. Benjamin W. Sammis, Spc. Sonny G. Sampler, Spc. Gregory P. Sanders, Pfc. Leroy Sandoval Jr., Spc. Matthew J. Sandri, Staff Sgt. Barry Sanford, 1st Lt. Neil Anthony Santoriello, Spc. Jonathan J. Santos, Pfc. Brandon R. Sapp, Staff Sgt. Cameron B. Sarno, Staff Sgt. Scott D. Sather, Lance Cpl. Jeremiah E. Savage, Capt. Robert C. Scheetz Jr., Spc. Justin B. Schmidt, Spc. Jeremiah W. Schmunk, Pfc. Sean M. Schneider, Cpl. Dustin H. Schrage, Maj. Mathew E. Schram, Lance Cpl. Brian K. Schramm, Spc. Christian C. Schulz, Master Sgt. David A. Scott, Pfc. Kerry D. Scott, Spc. Stephen M. Scott, Spc. Marc S. Seiden, Capt. Christopher Scott Seifert, Pfc. Dustin M. Sekula, Lance Cpl. Matthew K. Serio, Sgt. Juan M. Serrano, Staff Sgt. Wentz Jerome Henry Shanaberger III, Spc. Jeffrey R. Shaver, Maj. Kevin M. Shea, Spc. Casey Sheehan, Sgt. Kevin F. Sheehan, Sgt. Daniel Michael Shepherd, Sgt. Alan D. Sherman, Lt. Col. Anthony L. Sherman, Pfc. Harry N. Shondee Jr., Lance Cpl. Brad S. Shuder, Capt. James A. Shull, Pfc. Kenneth L. Sickels, Lance Cpl. Dustin L. Sides, Cpl. Erik H. Silva, Pvt. Sean A. Silva, Sgt. Leonard D. Simmons.

Pfc. Charles M. Sims, Lance Cpl. John T. Sims Jr., Spc. Uday Singh, Spc. Aaron J. Sissel, Pfc. Christopher A. Sisson, Pfc. Nicholas M. Skinner, Petty Officer 3rd Class David Sisung, 1st Lt. Brian D. Slavenas, Pvt. Brandon Ulysses Sloan, Lance Cpl. Richard P. Slocum, Lance Cpl. Thomas J. Slocum, Pfc. Corey L. Small, Sgt. Keith L. Smette, Capt. Benedict J. Smith, Sgt. Benjamin K. Smith, Pfc. Brandon C. Smith, 2nd Lt. Brian D. Smith, Chief Warrant Officer Bruce A. Smith, Cpl. Darrell L. Smith, 1st Sgt. Edward Smith, Chief Warrant Officer Eric A. Smith, Pfc. Jeremiah D. Smith, Lance Cpl. Matthew R. Smith, Lance Cpl. Michael J. Smith Jr., Spc. Orenthial J. Smith, Sgt. 1st Class Paul R. Smith, Capt. Christopher F. Soelzer, Sgt. Roderic A. Solomon, Cpl. Adrian V. Soltau, Maj. Charles R. Soltes Jr., Sgt. Skipper Soram, Pfc. Armando Soriano, Cpl. Tomas Sotelo Jr., Pfc. Kenneth C. Souslin, Spc. Philip I. Spakosky, Pfc. Jason L. Sparks, Cpl. Michael R. Speer, Staff Sgt. Trevor Spink, Maj. Christopher J. Splinter, Sgt. Marvin R. Sprayberry III, Pvt. Bryan N. Spry, Sgt. Maj. Michael B. Stack, Pfc. Nathan E. Stahl, 1st Lt. Andrew K. Stern, Staff Sgt. Robert A. Stever, Maj. Gregory Stone, 2nd Lt. Matthew R. Stovall, Pfc. William R. Strange, Sgt. Kirk Allen Straseskie, Pfc. Brandon C. Sturdy.

Spc. William R. Sturges Jr., Spc. Paul J. Sturino, Lance Cpl. Jesus A. Suarez Del Solar, Spc. Joseph D. Suell, Spc. John R. Sullivan, Spc. Narson B. Sullivan, Lance Cpl. Vincent M. Sullivan, Staff Sgt. Michael J. Sutter, Pfc. Ernest Harold Sutphin, Chief Warrant Officer Sharon T. Swartworth, Spc. Thomas J. Sweet II, Staff Sgt. Christopher W. Swisher, Maj. Paul R. Syverson III, Sgt. Patrick S. Tainsh, Sgt. DeForest L. Talbert, Sgt. 1st Class Linda Ann Tarango-Griess, Spc. Christopher M. Taylor, Maj. Mark D. Taylor, Capt. John R. Teal, Staff Sgt. Riayan A. Tejeda, Lance Cpl. Jason Andrew Tetrault, Spc. Joseph C. Thibodeaux, Master Sgt. Thomas R. Thigpen Sr., Cpl. Jesse L. Thiry, Sgt. Carl Thomas, Staff Sgt. Kendall Thomas, Spc. Kyle G. Thomas, Sgt. Anthony O. Thompson, Spc. Jarrett B. Thompson, Sgt. Humberto F. Timoteo, Capt. John E. Tipton, Pfc. Joshua K. Titcomb, Spc. Brandon T. Titus, Spc. Brandon S. Tobler, Sgt. Lee D. TodacheeneCpl. John H. Todd III, Sgt. Nicholas A. Tomko, Master Sgt. Timothy Toney, Pfc. George D. Torres, Lance Cpl. Michael S. Torres, 2nd Lt. Richard Torres, Spc. Ramon Reyes Torres, Lance Cpl. Elias Torrez III, Sgt. Michael L. Tosto, Spc. Richard K. Trevithick, Pfc. Andrew L. Tuazon, Staff Sgt. Roger C. Turner Jr., Pvt. Scott M. Tyrrell, 2nd Lt. Andre D. Tyson, Spc. Eugene A. Uhl III, Lance Cpl. Drew M. Uhles.

Rick A. Ulbright, Pfc. Daniel P. Unger, Spc. Robert Oliver Unruh, 1st Sgt. Ernest E. Utt, Sgt. Michael A. Uvanni, Staff Sgt. Gary A. Vaillant, Lance Cpl. Ruben Valdez Jr., Sgt. Melissa Valles, Spc. Allen J. Vandayburg, Spc. Josiah H. Vandertulip, Chief Warrant Officer Brian K. Van Dusen, Lance Cpl. John J. Vangyzen IV, Lance Cpl. Gary F. Van Leuven, Staff Sgt. Mark D. Vasquez, Spc. Frances M. Vega, 1st Lt. Michael W. Vega, Staff Sgt. Paul A. Velazquez, Cpl. David M. Vicente, Sgt. 1st Class Joselito O. Villanueva, Cpl. Scott M. Vincent, Staff Sgt. Kimberly A. Voelz, Staff Sgt. Michael S. Voss, Spc. Thai Vue, Lance Cpl. Michael B. Wafford, Sgt. Christopher A. Wagener, Sgt. Gregory L. Wahl, Staff Sgt. Allan K. Walker, Sgt. Jeffery C. Walker, Sgt. Donald Ralph Walters, Pvt. Jason M. Ward, Pfc. Nachez Washalanta, Lance Cpl. Christopher B. Wasser, Pvt. David L. Waters, Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Waters-Bey, Maj. William R. Watkins III, Petty Officer 2nd Class Christopher E. Watts, Chief Warrant Officer Aaron A. Weaver, Spc. Michael S. Weger, Staff Sgt. David J. Weisenburg, Spc. Douglas J. Weismantle, Pfc. Michael Russell Creighton Weldon, Lance Cpl. Larry L. Wells, Chief Warrant Officer Stephen M. Wells, Spc. Jeffrey M. Wershow, Spc. Christopher J. Rivera Wesley, Sgt. James G. West, 1st Lt. Alexander E. Wetherbee, Spc. Donald L. Wheeler, Sgt. Mason Douglas Whetstone, Pfc. Marquis A. Whitaker.

Staff Sgt. Aaron Dean White, Lt. Nathan D. White, Sgt. Steven W. White, Lance Cpl. William W. White, Pfc. Joey D. Whitener, Spc. Chase R. Whitman, Spc. Michael J. Wiesemann, Cpl. Joshua S. Wilfong, Sgt. Eugene Williams, Lance Cpl. Michael J. Williams, Spc. Michael L. Williams, Sgt. Taft V. Williams, 1st Lt. Charles L. Wilkins III, Sgt. 1st Class Christopher R. Willoughby, Spc. Dana N. Wilson, Command Sgt. Maj. Jerry L. Wilson, Staff Sgt. Joe N. Wilson, Lance Cpl. Lamont N. Wilson, Lance Cpl. Nicholas Wilt, 1st Lt. Ronald Winchester, Spc. Trevor A. Wine, Lance Cpl. William J. Wiscowiche, Spc. Robert A. Wise, Spc. Michelle M. Witmer, Pfc. Owen D. Witt, Spc. James R. Wolf, 2nd Lt. Jeremy L. Wolfe, Sgt. Elijah Tai Wah Wong, Sgt. Brian M. Wood, Capt. George A. Wood, Spc. Michael R. Woodliff, Spc. James C. Wright, Pfc. Jason G. Wright, 2nd Lt. John T. Wroblewski, Lance Cpl. Daniel R. Wyatt, Pfc. Stephen E. Wyatt, Sgt. Michael E. Yashinski, Sgt. Henry Ybarra III, Pfc. Rodricka A. Youmans, Sgt. Ryan C. Young, Lance Cpl. Andrew J. Zabierek, Spc. Nicholas J. Zangara, Spc. Mark Anthony Zapata, Pfc. Nicholaus E. Zimmer, Cpl. Ian T. Zook, Lance Cpl. Robert P. Zurheide Jr.

May they rest in peace.

And may they forgive us someday.

-- Michael Moore

 

I could look up the list of people killed on September 11th at the World Trade Center but I think my point is made.

 

My friend Isaac in the 82nd Airborne, who just got back 2 days ago from Afghanstan, and served in Iraq before that, and Afghanistan before that, said that he was very relieved that Bush won, and that a majority of troops voted for Bush. Hmm. Guys like Isaac defending guys like Michael Moore, who repays him with a bunch of belly aching. I salute Isaac. Michael can go back to Flint, if that's really where he's from.

 

Yep, it is. Thank you.

 

Eric, have you ever been to Flint? It's like hell on earth, but it's grey and cold.

 

Yep, I have. I just don't like Michael Moore, that's all. I don't trust him, and his methods are questionable.

 

Questionable? whoa , that's being nice. That guy is nothing but a bag of beer and sour kraut farts.

Catch you guys later, time for me to commute home and listen to how the kitchen isn't finished yet

 

He really is from Flint. And before he got to be...whatever the hell he is now... Roger and Me was spot-on with what happened.

 

Flint Michigan isn't far enough. Send him to France; he's obviously French at heart.

Moore does not speak for America, he does not speak for the military, and he does not have the country's best interests at heart, no matter what airs he puts on. He won't "sleep well at night" until America BECOMES France. I hope he has insomnia for the rest of his life.

80% of the military did not WANT Kerry for Commander In Chief. 100% of the military volunteered for their jobs, knowing that they might end up in a flag draped coffin.

Good links Star. I own Fahrenhype 911. Down here, I picked it up at Sam's Club. Part of THAT documentary is voluntary real interviews with some of the military and military related people that Moore used, WITHOUT permission, in his so-called "documentary". They hate Moore, what he said, and what he stands for, and wish they could have their segments removed from his film.

Cooked, you need a better role model. Moore is scum.

 

I thought he was actually from Davison, MI. Not too far away from Flint, but a much nicer town than Flint even before GM pulled out.

Anyone else can confirm this?

 

We have an ALL volunteer military. They all volunteered. They were not told they could pick the issues or where they would serve.

 

He was born/raised in Flint. At age 18 he won election to the Davison School Board. His only foray into politics except as a critic.

 

My thoughts on this election is I may never vote again LOL(joke) being from Florida,,we are becomming the state for fugging a election,,,the have just announced on the local news the state of Florida is now doing a recount,,after 400,000 votes were lost due to a software glitch. and all of the absenty ballots have not been counted,and it will change laws pertaining to voting in general,,Glenn

 

Are you serious! Another recount in Flordia?



cooked

 

The only foolproof voting method for Florida voters.

All ballots to be plain paper, with name, party, and picture of each candidate, with a 1" square box next to the picture.

Square box to be filled in with crayon by the voter.

Ballot to be inspected by kindergarden teacher before it is put into ballot box.

Voters that can't draw inside the lines to receive a frowny face on their ballot and sent to the back of the line and told to do it over.

 

that is a huge list OC, and yes i hope that they do forgive us for choosing to go to war

sept 11 was not a choice it was an action against us...
what happened was going to happen no matter what, but iraq did not and should not have happened
our government chose to go to iraq.

can we still be friend mgrist?

 

Yes Sept. 11th was not a choice. It was an attack on the US. Going into Afghanistan, and seeking out Alkida and Bin Laden was a must. I am 100% behind that.

Iraq was nothing but a goal on Bush's personal agenda. No WMD, no Alkida, nothing. I'm not saying that going into Iraq was absolute for nothing, and that no good came of it. Much good did come. We stopped Saddam from killing Innocent people, and Iraqis are now free. It is the pretense that we went into Iraq that i have a problem with. How can a President lie about a PERSONAL affair, and get impeached. While a president can lie to the whole country about a WAR, and go along his merry way? It just doesn't make sence.



cooked

 

Well we are all entitled to our own opinion. At least for now.

I personally like Moore, and agree with most of his findings. I throughly enjoyed Bowling for Columbine, and loved F911. Just because he is labeled as a socialist, and is not afraid to express his personal opinion, does not make him scum IMO.



cooked

 

I still think 300,000 Kurds massacred is enough of a reason to remove a dictator. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6235402/

For the record, there was a while there where I was regularly checking that list in fear that Isaac's name would show up on it, or at the very least, the name of one or more of the guys in his unit. I had several talks with Isaac's mom about if he would come back from Iraq alive. Still in the midst of all that, Isaac would assure us repeatedly that he was there for a reason. Eric had told him that if it came down to it, he would join up. He would rather that than have us have to fight this war in our own backyard. Isaac's response was, "If you had to do that, then I'm not doing my job very well. I'm here so you don't have to be."

 

Let me get this straight. The president made up all the WMD intelligence, and wasn't crooked enough to plant evidence? Why didn't he have some anthrax and VX gas planted over there to back him up? We have several thousand pounds of Russian plutonium and uranium, the president could have easily planted that and uncovered Saddam's 'black market nuclear weapon stockpile'.

 

He's not scum because he's a socialist. He's scum because he fabricates his "facts", misquotes people intentionally, misrepresents the truth to suit his agenda, and calls it documentary instead of the political satire that it is. That makes him a blatant liar. Find and watch a copy of Fahrenhype 911 for an opposing view of that work, and let me know what you think.

 

Saw that in the movie store the other day. That's the hardest I've laughed at a piece of merchandise since I can remember.

Simply put, he's an attention whore. Personally, I enjoy Moore's style, but he tries too damn hard to get a point across.

In Bowling for Columbine when he was kicked out of Chuck Heston's place, and he set that picture of the little girl against the wall...What the hell? Could he have NOT done that and still made Heston look like an ass? Probably.

 

Could you post a link to some information about this? I've seen nor heard nothing on the national media about this and all I seem to be able to find about any voting problems in South Florida was a count problem on something
called 'Amendment 4'.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10103931.htm?1c

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/lo...ov05,0,3802608.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

 

the united states government gave those weapons to iraq.
during the reagan years. the US was behind iraq, and russia was behind iran ( does the iraq, iran war ring a bell )
lets think about something else. sadam did kill many people, but NOW we have killed over 100,000 inocent people..
i thought we were liberators


http://workingforchange.speedera.net/www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/WFC/Bo040829.gif

 

Well, I suppose we did give Iraq weapons. So, I guess my question is what do you propose we do? We can't go back in time and take the weapons back, and I don't think that the weapons were necessarily the problem. The problem was Hussein, and his warped way of thinking.
One could even make an arguement that since we gave the weapons to Iraq, we should take responsibility and put a stop to Husseins actions.
What are your thoughts on this?
Also, can you give me a link to some facts about the 100,000 innocent people we've killed? I'm just curious where that number comes from.

 

Bottom line:
There is but one truth. Unfortunately, people see it in a different light and draw different conclusions. As I see it, there are 2 types of ideals: liberal and conservative. Liberals see the conservatives as ignorant extremists; conservatives see the liberals as ignorant extremists. The recent election was about those two ideals. President Bush is not the ideal conservative by any means, but Kerry is the ideal liberal. The election results show that more US citizens are conservative in their thinking. Because Bush is more of a moderate, the Democrats would have won if they had placed another moderate, such as Lieberman, on the ticket. Liberals don't stand much of a chance. Kerry would have lost by a much larger margin if he had claimed to be a liberal (the major news failed to inform the people of his status as "Most Liberal Senator").
What I'd like to see (and I will assume most Americans also) is Bush going farther to the right and begin shrinking the federal government. And also appointing judges who will not legislate their own beliefs and simply follow the Constitution as it is written (no interpretation is necessary).

And a little reminder: How many times in the past 4 years has U.S. soil been assaulted? ONCE (the terrorists have threatened us many times since, however).

Reason we haven't had any recent attacks: We took the fight to them.

We did not cave in to the terrorists and elect a liberal President, like Spain did. We are not a nation of liberals who will rely on the U.N. to protect us. Now get over it and jump in the boat with the rest of us.

 

Probably Michael Moore or the recent monk convert George Soros?

 

When I do something wrong, I consider it my responsibility to fix the problem I created. Apparently you feel otherwise. By the way, when we lberated Germany and Japan, we destroyed their whole countries and killed millions of innocent people in the process.

 

Well said.

 

Moore's style is compelling, which is why he sells. Moore's substance is blatant lying to suit is prejudices. Since his topics are important ones to the country, that a lot of people use to make decisions about important issues, that makes the truth of his "work" more important than the average film-maker. Oliver Stone's opinions about Kennedy's death are irrelevant. HIS work is presented as fiction. Please read this for a detailed analysis of Moore's "facts" in Columbine and then tell me how much you admire that movie:

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

 

Funny how the liberal media and Hollywood play up those type of "documentaries", but condemn a "fictional" movie such as "The Passion". They don't care one iota about the truth, just their own agendas.

 

Spoken like a true Conservative. Kerry is NOTHING LIKE the "ideal liberal". My cat is more liberal than he is.

 

My first thoughts after the election were - how pathetic! How can a nation be so ignorant? How can a nation let itself be led by a moron such as Bush? Does America not realize it's becoming a joke to the people outside of it's own nation?



I don't hate America, I'm just sick of hearing about how it won't fix it's own problems. Why can't America spend $87 billion dollars to help itself fix its own problems?

Bush won't fix anything. It's a horrible thing that he got re-elected.

 

I guess being the senator with the most liberal voting record (when he was actually doing his job) accounts for nothing.

Are you a liberal?

Who did you vote for?

Case closed.

 

Exactly what problems? Are they the same problems that not even St. Clinton could fix?

 

The poverty, poor education, poor health care, the unemployment, gun control, the crime, the racism, the environment, the obesity, etc.

Why not spend billions of dollars to fix those problems before going half way around the world to fight a war you don't need to be fighting. The only reason to fight that war is to get more oil for the people who controll Bush.

 

Case closed, huh? How interesting. I am a liberal. I voted for Badnarik. Case re-opened. Please do not make assumptions about me when you are uninformed.

Kerry may have the "most liberal voting record" (which is something pulled directly from a George Bush campaign commercial, and may or may not actually reflect reality), but he is still NOT the "ideal liberal".

 

Read the writings of Noam chomsky and you may have a different opinion on Democracy.

 

i must say i agree with colonel angus...

bush is an ignorant bumbling idiot, who only thinks about himself, and sometimes America

no, i dont hate America, i just extremely dislike Bush.

its obvious that he wanted to go into iraq for personal reasons, you dont just invade a country, overthrow a government (albiet a bad one) because you have "evidence" that there is weapons of mass distruction.

and if your saying that this doesnt involve me well think again.

i live in southern ontario, which in near new york. during the summer we often get really horrible days with tons of smog. Do you know where most of that smog comes from? America. Now i dont know if kerry was going to do any green decisions, but you must realize how bad those smog days are.

also, bush, and his administration have been repeatedly breaking the NAFTA aggreement. they have been putting tarriffs on canadian softwood, even after the NAFTA has told them to stop. How much more ignorant can you be? those tarriffs are seriously hurting the Canadian lumber industry, which is quite a large chunk of the Canadian economy. I know that our lumber hurts you economy, but you signed the agreement too!

Now im done, and i just want to say one thing. I dont neccasarily support kerry, its just bush might be good for america, but honestly, other countries are important too.

 

Kinda sounds like you blame Bush for the smog

 

Plus, it's a lot more cost-effective to kill the people we send over there.

We keep sending, they'll keep killing.

 

My opinion: I would rather have seen anyone other than George W. Bush as the president of the USA because he seems to be a warmonger.
And I like Michael Moore as he shows a different side of the politics in the USA. He does exaggerate alot though.

I am aware that, as a non-citizen of the USA, my vote in this doesn't count for much. But hey, it's just an opinion!

 

My first thought after the election was "Thank you God!" I voted for George Bush and I am proud of it. People say that he is an idiot but maybe they should try taking a look at his educational background. Chances are he's smarter than you (yes, you. The one reading this). I also don't think that it is fair to criticise President Bush for the way he has chosen to run this country. Have YOU ever run a country? I didn't think so. When President Bush was sworn into office in January of 2001, he did not know that just eight months later we would be getting attacked by terrorists and that many, many lives would be lost. To say "I support the war" seems quite stupid. But I do think it is right for us to be over there. If somebody broke into your house and tried to kill you or your family, wouldn't you try to defend yourselves? As the richest nation in the world, I believe, we have a duty to help those less fortunate than ourselves. A lot of good has been done in this war.

I don't think the majority of America's problems lie in who is in charge. America's issues stem from a lack of individual morals. People in this country don't care about other people the way we should.

As far as the economy is concerned, it seems like everybody wants to get rich quick and nobody wants to really work unless it's something fun. When I lived in California, I kept hearing about how my state was in debt and all I could think was, if we are in debt, and it's such a huge problem, why are we paying $10 a pop to go see movies and then paying those movie stars millions of dollars? Who needs that kind of money?

I know it seems like I am just ranting and raving but this is how I feel. I'm just tired of people whining about things all the time but never taking the time to do anything about it.

It's like the sharks say in Finding Nemo "If I am to change this image, I must first change myself." Pretty deep coming from a cartoon, I think.

 

But you're from Ireland...That's credibility enough.

 

The "anybody but whoever" argument is frightening as hell to any thinking human being. Anybody?????? No. A viable candidate other than Bush, yes. But anybody? Yikes. Like who? Rush Limbaugh? Michael Moore? Bob Dole? Ted Kennedy? David Duke? Al Sharpton?

"Anybody" is a very dangerous and scary position to hold.

 

Answer to the first question:
Because it's president (notice lack of capitalization out of disrespect) has a 98 IQ.

The second:
Too much of america is too ignorant to care...they would rather watch a 'good football game' than do their political homework.

The third:
Good question for Cheney!!!

All & all, our 'war' is over oil and religion...control. It has NOTHING to do with terrorism!!!

Here is a letter I received the other day...read and THINK.

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Hey all,

I’m writing this at 35,000 feet, exhausted, saddened, and angry, on my way back form Ohio where I spent the days of the election doing everything possible to avoid the outcome we all feared. Kerry has conceded defeat, begging the question “What now?” I’ll get to that shortly but there is so much to consider and there are stories to tell. This email will be a bit long so I’ll give you a “table of contents” so you can skip to the parts that are of interest.

1. Election 2004: my take
2. What we can do now
3. Ohio tales
4. Thanks, extra special thanks, and extra, EXTRA special thanks.

Enjoy,

K



1. Election 2004: my take



Well, it obviously wasn’t the outcome we had hoped for. What saddens me is that in the end, it wasn’t about terrorism (or security in general). It wasn’t about the economy. Nor was it about health care. It wasn’t jobs, the environment or even social security. In the end, it was Guns, God, and Gays. It was people voting for their right-wing Christian beliefs over good governance. I watched people who are in the grips of endemic, intergenerational poverty tell me they were voting for Dubya because (and this is a quote) “I don’t want my daughter gittin’ an abortion.” (note to you lady: You’re daughter is going to have an abortion whether its Kerry, Bush or Abraham freakin’ Lincoln in the White House. The question is whether she’s going to be safe and whether the doctor is going to get arrested. Sorry, tangent.)

I watched people vote AGAINST THEIR ECONOMIC INTERESTS over and over again so that *gays can’t marry*!!! Let me get this straight: your child’s education isn’t getting funded and your job just went overseas. Plus your Soc. Sec. check is in limbo and your prescription drugs cost twice as much as they should…BUT…you are on cloud nine because Steve and Jim can’t get MARRIED? Holy crap. I learned during my high priced bidness edjacashun that human beings are “maximizers of utility.” BS! They voted on BELIEF. We are living in a United States where about half of us want a theocracy (correction: a CHRISTIAN theocracy) and the other half want…well, what do we want?

And there is the crux of the matter. The Republicans are willing to settle for the lowest common denominator in order to win. They will subjugate their own agenda in order to win. And we won’t do it. For better or worse (worse, I guess) we want to make sure every opinion and agenda is addressed. We have a “big tent” which is great…BUT…at what price? And do we want to marginalize one group at the expense of the whole? Which group? How can we create a grand coalition that makes sense? Are we too enamored of “plans and ideas” over “faith and ideals”? I sure hope that we don’t have to sink that low in order to win back the White House.

Four more years of ideological extremism, a move further away from the center, a house and senate full of lackeys that are going to rubber stamp every bad idea that comes along and a supreme court that is going to get more conservative. Good bye civil rights, civil liberties, and civility. This is going to get ugly. My only consolation is that Bush now has four years to live with what he has created: A war with no exit strategy, a $400 billion dollar deficit, shrinking tax revenue, and a sputtering economy. He shall be hoist upon his own petard. (If you don’t know what that means, look it up. It’s actually a pretty elegant and funny turn of phrase and I’m chuckling to myself as I write it. Anything for a smile today.)

2. What Comes Next –



With defeat assured, my first inclination was to say “screw it” and just go into a funk for the next four years. Perhaps some of you are feeling the same way. I gave myself just this morning to feel that way and now I realize that we have a mandate, indeed an OBLIGATION to commit ourselves to four years of consistent hard work to make sure that 2008 is the year that we take back this country. Sure, we worked hard for a few months but wasn’t that like cramming for the exam when we had a full semester to study?

By the end, my list was up over 200 names. Think about it. If each of you created your own list of even half that size and if even half of those names were unique (non-overlapping), we could reach tens of thousands of people in just a few progressions of forwards. This is the power that we put to use and this is the power that we have to enlighten, educate, empower, and enrage. I hope that you were able to forward some of these messages along and that in doing so, you realize how integral you are to the process of an educated and insightful electorate.

Some quick math:

• I sent out an email each day or so to roughly 200 people. That touches 200 people. But If…
• Half of those 200 each sent it out to another 100, we will have touched (in one degree of forwarding) another 10,000 people. And if…
• Half of those 10,000 each sent it out to another 50, we will have touched (in a second degree of forwarding) another 250,000. And if…
• Half of those 250,000 sent it to just 25 people, we will have touched (in a final degree of forwarding) another 3,125,000.
• That, my friends, is power.

Here’s the plan: (a) I am going to set up a website. It will be a clearinghouse of information on everything we stand for. It will have clearly defined sections on everything from voting rights and the Democratic party to progressive issues and the candidates we believe in. Beyond a portal to information, it will be a clarion call to ACTION. There will be tons of information on how to GET INVOLVED. I’ll make sure you know about it. Give me until just after the New Year to get it up and running. And if there is something you would love to see on the site…let me know and it will be there. (b) I will keep Konrad’s Progressive Issues List up and running. I’ll try and send out one modest email per week with the best of the issues, the best of our elected officials and occasionally the worst. As always, let me know if you have people to add to the list or if you would like to unsubscribe. I’ll keep the volume of emails sent out very modest and the value high. And as always, your names will stay in the bcc section so you’ll be anonymous. (c) I’m going to challenge everyone to stay committed. It is too easy to treat our election process like we do swimming or track and field: once every four years for a few weeks at the Olympics and then we forget about it. Let’s lay the groundwork today, tomorrow and beyond for success in taking back America.

In spite of the outcome, realize that even though the “electoral map” looks mighty red, MOST AMERICANS ARE MODERATE AND COMMON SENSICAL. What can we do to inspire them to get involved and recapture our country from the ideologues? What can YOU do to educate and inspire the good people to get out and vote their conscience the way that the radical right wingers do?

3. Ohio Tales



As you no doubt know, many months ago, I volunteered to work with Election Protection Volunteers, a non-profit, non-partisan group that organized and trained volunteers to watch the polls in key battleground states and states with a history of voter intimidation, harassment, and suppression. I originally chose Arizona but at the last minute switched to Ohio in order to be closer to The Action! What an awesome decision. I didn’t get into any confrontations (damn!) or have any shenanigans, hijinx, or skullduggery at my polling place but it was still amazing to be involved.

I left just after midnight on Sunday and arrived early on Monday into Columbus, rented a car and headed to meet some Kerry canvassers in a rather conservative working class suburb of Cincinnati. I worked with a great woman named Vietly who is a Cincy native who has recently moved to LA. She and I went door-to-door in a really working class neighborhood and worked to get out the vote for our man. It was a real eye-opener for me. I have rarely been around that kind of cyclical poverty and I realized how wickedly effective the GOP has been in somehow getting voters to vote AGAINST their best economic interest. As I would learn, this election had NOTHING to do with terrorism, the economy, jobs, health care, or education. It was God, Guns, and Gays.

After a day of canvassing, we did our training with literally HUNDREDS of enthusiastic folks at a local church. Everyone was so amped. The vibe was terrific. I could barely sleep which was a downer because…

I was up the next morning at 4:40 AM (that’s 1:40 AM Pacific Time, the clock my body decided to work on) and we headed down to the church to meet our field lawyer and three law students from Indiana University. Our crew of seven volunteers (remember…no one got paid) went to a precinct about a mile or two from downtown in a older part of the city. The populace was trending toward elderly and almost 100% African-American. If three people voted for Bush, I didn’t see ‘em! It was really amazing to see the energy and focus of the voters at our polls.

There were almost no problems except that the poll workers were as slow as molasses which caused some minor lines. Nothing compared to the snafu’s up in Columbus where lines extended to 5 HOURS because the idiot Secretary of State (Republican, natch) had understaffed and under-machined many polling places. You mean record turnout caught him by SURPRISE? Geez. Anyway, our precinct was smooth. The only downer was the it rained on and off all day and we had to, by law, be 100 feet from the polling place meaning on a sidewalk with no cover except our umbrellas and ponchos. The rain fell hard enough and there was enough wind that it really didn’t matter what we were wearing…we were soaked to the bone all day. 12 hours on a sidewalk handing out information and not getting into any confrontations. A bit boring.

But the net result was a smooth experience and over 75% turnout at our precinct. Mission accomplished.



4. Thanks to everyone who has received my emails this summer and fall-

First off, I have to give a warm and heartfelt *thank you* to everyone who asked to be added to my email list and thanks to everyone who stayed with it until the bitter end in spite of my best efforts to rival penis enlargement, online Viagra, and Nigerian bankers as the webs most noxious spammers. I’ve tried to keep the value high and only send you the best, most credible, funniest, and most intense information I could find. I hope that some of you were able to use it to help form your own opinions and to stoke your fire as we fought this incredible fight.

An *extra special* thanks to everyone who went one step further and gave of their time, money, or expertise to help the candidates and issues that mattered to us. It could have been a donation, phone calling, canvassing, or public speaking. You might have written a check, designed a website, or helped organize volunteers. Whatever you did, you did something and it was that kind of commitment that made this thing as close as it was. Keep in mind…no sitting President has EVER been unseated during wartime. We almost entered uncharted waters. Think what we can do with four more years of incompetence.

An *extra extra special* thanks to the people who inspired me to channel my frustration and anger into making a difference this year. They deserve mentions by name: My wife, Stef, whose patience (as most of you know) would make Job seem restless, Alexandra Paul and Ian Murray whose principles, idealism and activism were guiding lights for me, and my parents who inspired me more than I think they know. They taught me that it is ALWAYS better to do what is right instead of what is easy.

And finally a really small thank you to Dubya and his merry band of Idiots, without whom I’d probably be as apathetic as 50% of the American “voting public”.

That’s all from election central. You’ve been a faithful and energetic audience and your constant encouragement and even more constant needling and sarcasm have kept me in the game.

This is not the end. This is the beginning.

Konrad

 

Joseph Stalin? Pol Pot? Adolph Hitler? Mohamar Khadafi?........

"Anybody but _______" is how Hitler came to power, in a free republic structured very much like ours. Stupid and dangerous outlook.

 

He was never more than a "C" student. He never showed up in class His father paid his way through college. He has a criminal record (drug charges).

Do your political homework! These are public facts...and only an isolated few of many.

There is nothing more formidable than the righteous, that's for sure...they're so right, they haven't the space to think.