Need Error Help

Discussion in 'Software' started by Mynameischris, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. Mynameischris

    Mynameischris Private E-2

    Recently experiencing BSOD and seemingly random application crashes. Ran windows debugging tool, results are attached. Not sure how to proceed from here...
     

    Attached Files:

  2. sdawg27

    sdawg27 Private E-2

  3. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Could you post the actual BSOD code, opposed to the memory dump as BSOD codes can be more helpful than mem dumps?
     
  4. Mynameischris

    Mynameischris Private E-2

    hi, i wrote two stop codes:
    0x0000001A (0x00000030, 0x87E5B588, 0xA1A59000, 0x9AD99870)

    and

    PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
    0x00000D4E (0x00000007, 0x00095AC2, 0x00096EC1, 0x00000000)
     
  5. Mynameischris

    Mynameischris Private E-2

    another crash just happened:
    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
    0x0000001A (0x00000030, 0x87FEA9F0, 0xA1B78000, 0xA0C0A870)
     
  6. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It's looking like a random crash, usually indicative of bad memory, I'd run Memtest86+ for at least 7 runs or overnight.
     
  7. Mynameischris

    Mynameischris Private E-2

    ok ill give it a go, thanks
     
  8. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    May also be worth upgrading to SP3 for your XP as many of the updates add fixes for various issues
     
  9. Mynameischris

    Mynameischris Private E-2

    when i run memtest the computer restarts every time it gets to about 48% on test #0... and i'm running vista not XP
     
  10. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

  11. The Shadow

    The Shadow Specialist

    That memtest result says that you DO have one bad or at least failing memory stick. If you have multiple memory sticks, test them one at a time by removing all but one stick. If that stick passes memtest86, then remove it and set it aside and test the next stick.

    I've saved dozens of 'bad' memory sticks over the years, by just washing it, either with soap and water of Denatured Alcohol.

    I just had one stick 'fail' in my own PC. I removed it, gave it a thorough cleaning and reinstalled it and it's working just fine. No Problemo! ;)

    This ram is less than one year old.
    It was actually preventing my PC from booting up.

    Good Luck,

    The Shadow :cool
     
  12. sdawg27

    sdawg27 Private E-2

    the shadow, could you give me more info on this "washing technique"?

    thanks sdawg27.
     
  13. The Shadow

    The Shadow Specialist

    This board won't let me go back and edit my last post so I can't.......

    What I'd want to say is that the first cleaning was very superficial and didn't really solve the entire problem. My PC would boot to XP just fine but would BSOD every time I'd try to boot to Win-7 (two versions, on two different drives).

    When I would take out the new ram, 2 x 2 gig sticks, everything worked just fine with both XP and Win-7.

    So I decided it was time to get really serious with cleaning up this crappy ram. (testing this ram with Memtest86+ did NOT show any errors)

    For this exercise, I decided to go with the alcohol bath instead of the soap and water, because the chips are the new surface mount type.

    I put the two ram sticks in a shallow pan and poured in enough denatured alcohol to cover them. Then I took and old (clean) toothbrush and just scrubbed the heck out of both sticks. Then I blotted them dry with a paper towel and let them air dry for about an hour before reinstalling them back into my PC.

    Unlike Isopropyl Alcohol, Denatured Alcohol contains NO water, so it's totally NON-Conductive. It makes a good wash for all sorts of electronics.

    Now my PC once again boots properly into Win-7 as well as XP. Job done!

    In retrospect, I remember the day my monitor started showing colored pixels randomly across the screen. I recognized this as a Video Ram problem.
    I took out the video card and washed it with warm water and liquid dishwashing detergent at the kitchen sink, using a toothbrush to scrub the area along the sides of the chips where the electrical contacts are.

    I concentrated on the ram chips on the front end of the card. After a very thorough rinse in warm water to remove the soap, I finished the process with another rinse in Denatured Alcohol, to displace all the remaining water. Then after a couple of hours drying time in the afternoon sun, I reinstalled that card and had NO more video ram problems.
    That was several years ago now, and that card is still working just fine in my backup PC.

    I'd love to have all the ram sticks and video cards that people throw away, because I know I could salvage a very high percent of them, just by giving them a good washing.

    I hope that answers your question.

    The Shadow :cool
     
  14. ~Q~

    ~Q~ Command Sergeant Major

    That is a very inforamative post Shadow, thank you very much, i have kept many old and "failed" ram sticks over the years, lets see what i can recycle. :)
     
  15. sdawg27

    sdawg27 Private E-2

    Thank you very much.
    i will try this since i just replaced my RAM because i believe them to be bad.
     

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