Netlogon huge problem :)

Hi, i have big problem on my laptop with netlogon

Today i was playing around a bit and remotly conected to my other laptop all worked well when i disconected i tryed to log in to other laptop and got folowing message.

Unable to log you on because the netlogon service is not running on this machine.

I tryed everything log as admin didnt work(also my user account is admin),safe mode no help there,unpluged internet cable nothing,searched web no solution.
Is there any way to fixed that with out formating and loosing data?
I cant access my desktop as i need to login so cant see how to fix this

PS:Im not realy genious about that so step to step guide might help rolleyes

Please help

 

ouch, so you cant log on at all?

 

no,whatever i try

 

anyone had similar issue i still cant find solution

 

I've been looking around for this as well and I can't find anything that doesnt have to do with domain authentication. You might want to try this in software section as well. Some of the software people might have a better idea.

 

OK will copy paste my post there to

 

Ah well i guess i cracked issue on this forum that no mortal can solve and my laptop is still dead cos i dont want format it in meantime i searched world for solution and nothing came up microsoft support was even that smart to sugest me try loging in later again...how much later its been mounths since im trying this lol
I also tryed repair console,Reinstaling Windows(repair option),creating new user dooring repair,creating new workgroup nothing just perfect i wonder who is protected when i set my pc to password login there is like 1% chance that my pc will be stolen and 99% that dam windows will brake :cry:cry

 

Is it XP?
How many user accounts on the machine?

When you get to the XP logon do a CTL+ALT+DEL and see if another loon screen pops up.

 

Its win XP service pack 2
user name is one
I get to login screen i try to type in username and pwd and get that message thats far as i can go :yum

 

Is there any way i can start that netlogon service before windows launch?

 

You know.....I don't believe netlogon is even needed for a machine that is not on a domain. Its almost as if your machine is wanting to login to a domain.

 

Yes, i think that so to...im trying to bypas this with win xp new instal repair option but when i need to create new account and group it only alows me to select option --(Yes make this computer a member of folowing domain) and name of my worgroup is in that box...if i change name it does nothing just keeps loading if i try select option...(no,this computer is not on a network) also just loading so it doesnt even alow me to create any other group or username
Thats wery weird issue i have here as my pc is not member of any domain before this happen i didnt change any option all i done is i establist conection thru VPN from other laptop and loged into this one but now i cant doo even that as even if i try remote conection i get that message displayed



PS. I checked NetLogon service on this laptop that is working fine and Netlogon is disabled but i login with out any problems so i think i should be able to login to other one aswell i basicly have pretty much same settings on both laptops

 

Here is new message i stumbled upon after trying create new workgroup after 10 minutes of loading:
The domain could not be accesed due to networking problems.
Would you like to proceed for now and try joining domain later?

I atached screen of message

 

I believe it is the domain logon that is at issue. The thing that troubles me is that you can not get into safe mode.

The only other thing I can think of now is to go back to a working restore point. There is a way to do this using the recovery console and copying older version registry files. That is if the system restore was not turned off.

I'll have to try and find the procedure for recovery using recovery console.

 

Here is the procedure. I haven't tried it myself so take it with a grain of salt.

 

Hi Jconstan,

Sry for slow replay i was away a bit
Thx for pointing me in correct direction recovery console didnt helped me jet but at least gave me pointer to login into windows as administrator.

I tryed recovery console and noticed my admin password is not working there so it gave me idea to hack my admin pass someway...i searched solution and this is the manual of what i came up
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1. Place your Windows XP CD in your cd-rom and start your computer (its assumed here that your XP CD is bootable as it should be - and that you have your bios set to boot from CD)

2. Keep your eye on the screen messages for booting to your cd Typically, it will be Press any key to boot from cd

3. Once you get in, the first screen will indicate that Setup is inspecting your system and loading files.

4. When you get to the Welcome to Setup screen, press ENTER to Setup Windows now

5. The Licensing Agreement comes next - Press F8 to accept it.

6. The next screen is the Setup screen which gives you the option to do a Repair.

It should read something like If one of the following Windows XP installations is damaged, Setup can try to repair it

Use the up and down arrow keys to select your XP installation (if you only have one, it should already be selected) and press R to begin the Repair process.

7. Let the Repair run. Setup will now check your disks and then start copying files which can take several minutes.

8. Shortly after the Copying Files stage, you will be required to reboot. (this will happen automatically you will see a progress bar stating Your computer will reboot in 15 seconds

9. During the reboot, do not make the mistake of pressing any key to boot from the CD again! Setup will resume automatically with the standard billboard screens and you will notice Installing Windows is highlighted.

10. Keep your eye on the lower left hand side of the screen and when you see the Installing Devices progress bar, press SHIFT + F10. This is the security hole! A command console will now open up giving you the potential for wide access to your system.

11. At the prompt, type NUSRMGR.CPL and press Enter. Voila! You have just gained graphical access to your User Accounts in the Control Panel.

12. Now simply pick the account you need to change and remove or change your password as you prefer. If you want to log on without having to enter your new password, you can type control userpasswords2 at the prompt and choose to log on without being asked for password. After you ve made your changes close the windows, exit the command box and continue on with the Repair (have your Product key handy).

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THis isnt complete solution as changing/reseting my pass didnt alow me to launch recovery console jet but i did manage to login in windows as administrator....when i loged in i noticed that my group is gone and my username is deleted but i did noticed that all folders related to that user name are still there...also no program was working like someone done huge clean up inside jet all files are present just dead.
I cannot create any user accounts and my restore points in system tools are gone...im also getting pile of dll errors and add/remove programs window is empty

My next step is disabling userpass check for recovery console:
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Start | Run | Regedit
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole
Set the DWORD SecurityLevel value to 1
Exit Registry and Reboot
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OK recovery console didnt work so i will try restoring deleted user accounts

My fight for freedom will continue here.....

Not sure wich one i should place here so im adding both = :-D:cry

 

OK now all my files are completly backed up on external hard drive so i can start messing around
In worse case scenario i can format disc but 1st i would like to see if it will be posible to save this with out format :-D

 

Did you ever actually do a repair where windows files are actually copied from the cd to the hard drivre after step 6 you have noted?

 

Yes i done repair few times (problem occured before this that was just desparate atempt to solve it) until i discovered step 10 that 1 ending up solving my problem...only thing i needed make new user account and take ownership of all files from previous account that goes for emails etc..

strange thing all files from previous account and group were there just not listed so i needed take ownership of all also there was more then 10000 wrong registry entryes i fixed all those to with reg fix and litle patience