NetPal.PrizePopper won't permanantly delete

Discussion in 'Malware Help - MG (A Specialist Will Reply)' started by ComputerGate, Dec 16, 2004.

  1. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    PestPatrol finds a spyware bug on my computer called NetPal.PrizePopper. PestPatrol is supposed to delete it after a reboot. But it doesn't. I am running Windows XP Pro on a dual MP2200 processor scsi motherboard. I run four scsi drives, and when I scan each drive individually with PestPatrol the same file shows up on all four drives. I also run Spybot S&D with tea timer, Zonealarm, Adaware personal se, Norton antivirus, CWShredder, Bazooka, and Spyware Blaster all with fresh updates. Only PestPatrol detects the NetPal.PrizePopper bug. I have system restore turned off on all four drives. I've done the PestPatrol scan several times and each time after I delete the file, I do a reboot and it's always back again on the next scan. Any ideas?
     
  2. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    First, please follow ALL the steps in this Sticky thread READ ME FIRST BEFORE ASKING FOR SUPPORT: Basic Spyware, Trojan And Virus Removal
    If you already have any of the programs linked in the tutorial please double check your version to make sure you have the latest one and that you have any/all updates for the programs.

    NOTE: In order to resolve the issues you are having it is very important that you at least try to perform all the steps as outlined. If you have any difficulty please post back letting us know what steps you have completed, what you found while doing the scans if anything and details about any problems you have encountered in completing the steps. The more details you can provide the better.


    After doing ALL of the above if you still have a problem:

    Make sure you have HijackThis 1.99 and follow the guidelines on where to install it and how to post a log as an attachment. This is all covered in the sticky thread NO HIJACK THIS LOG FILES BEFORE READING THIS: HJT Tutorial & LOG File Posting

    Now post a HijackThis as a .txt file attachment to your message. All running programs should be closed, including your web browser, e-mail. Close before running Hijack This!

    To repeat: Do NOT run Hijack This from the Desktop, a temp folder, or a sub-folder of C:\Documents and Settings, or choose to run it directly from the downloaded ZIP file. Place it in its own folder, for example C:\Program Files\HJT
     
  3. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    O.K., I took a few hours to complete but I followed all the way down that list and did everything right to the letter. The only thing I couldn't do was the two online scans in safemode. I was able to do them in normal mode. Not one single bug was found by any scan I did. I even ran all of the suggested alternative scans. Now that I have followed the instructions, does anyone have any advice to offer on my original question, that being PestPatrol finding the NetPal.PrizePopper bug, but not being able to permanently delete it?
     
  4. PhilliePhan

    PhilliePhan Guest

    Hi ComputerGate,

    I am just popping in with a quick suggestion.
    Look for the following filenames:
    KER7120.DLL
    Kernell32.dll


    Those are the NetPal/PrizePopper files that should be removed. The following is the related BHO:
    {C7ADE150-743D-11D4-8141-00E029626F6A}

    If you still have problems, send us a HijackThis Log. Be sure to follow the instructions below:

    Note that your HijackThis should be up-to-date (v1.99) and MUST be extracted to its own safe folder – C:\Program Files\HijackThis!

    If you need a Fresh Download of HJT, get it HERE: HijackThis 1.99

    Also note that, before you scan, you MUST close all running programs including your web browser, e-mail and items in the system tray.

    Please save your HJT Log as a .txt File and attach it via the "Manage Attachments" tool in the Additional Options section when you post.

    I am tied up these days, but somebody will take a look when they get a chance.

    Best luck :)
    PP
     
  5. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Please follow directions. I said if you still have a problem, follow the steps for posting a HJT log and post one. Now PP has also requested the samething. What PP is referring to is this: http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/n/netpal_prizepopper.asp
     
  6. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    I've already been to PestPatrol over this. I have been back and forth with a tech who doesn't seem to be able to read english. I asked for a better explanation of how to manually delete all the items they mention, and I never got any answer that was directed to my question. I even emailed doxdesk the same question as he has the identical procedure posted. Unfortunately, again, I don't know how to follow the procedure. I looked up the kernell32.dll and I had 16 listings of it. I managed to permanently delete all but one of them in safe mode. The one keeps coming back. But here is my hijack this log.
     

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  7. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    Oh yes, specifically, I don't know how to unregister the dll's with regsvr32. I have no idea what that means.
     
  8. PhilliePhan

    PhilliePhan Guest

    Hi CG,

    I'm really rushed and have to check back after dinner, but please locate HJT in its own folder as per my previous post.

    This is malware:
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [®Windows Update] svchosts.exe

    I don't see the others right away.

    PP :)
     
  9. Turcoloco

    Turcoloco MajorGeek

    certain components has the be registered with DNS servers, kind of like getting activated. To unregister a certain component (xxx=component's name):
    START > RUN > type regsvr32 /u xxx > OK

    To see all available options: START > RUN > type regsvr32 /? > OK
     
  10. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Yes! As we mentioned already, we prefer that HJT not be in a temp folder or in any subfolder of c:\documents and settings. Put it in C:\Program File\HJT

    And ALL browsers must be shutdown before running HJT. You had the below running:
    C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe

    You OS and IE are severely out of date. This is a big security hole.

    To unregister DLLs your do the following:
    Click Start, and then click Run. (The Run dialog box appears.)
    Type, or copy and paste, the following text:
    regsvr32 /u dllfilename.dll <--- replace dllfilename.dll with the actual DLL to unregister.
    then click OK. If a dialog box confirming this action appears, click OK.

    Make sure you have system restore disabled and viewing of hidden files enabled (per the tutorial).
    Run HijackThis and select the following lines but DO NOT CLICK FIX until you exit all browser sessions including the one you are reading in right now:
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [®Windows Update] svchosts.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [®Windows Update] svchosts.exe

    Boot into safe mode and use Windows Explorer to delete:
    c:\windows\system32\svchosts.exe
    Now reboot in normal mode and post a new HJT log. And tell us how things are working.
     
  11. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    I actually did put the program in its own folder. I use Mozilla firefox for 99% of my internet surfing. In fact, the only reason I used IE for this is that IE allows me to save the page into a desktop shortcut. I am going to download the hijack this again from internet explorer and do the initial install directly into a folder. I'll follow back up as soon as i'm done with all this to update you. Thanks.
     
  12. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    I wish I could say that something had gone well but it didn't. I followed the example for the run menu and I typed it in with the exact spaces as shown and I get an error. I will attach a snapshot of the error along with the hijack this log. By the way, I used IE to do the download and I was able to direct the download to it's own folder. But I don't see how that was different then just dragging the executable into a folder before opening it. Anyway, here is the two files.
     

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  13. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    A follow up. Even though I wasn't able to deregister the dll's per PestPatrol instructions, I decided to try to delete the rest of the files you mentioned in safe mode. Bingo! I rebooted and ran the PestPatrol scan and the bug is gone. Incidentally, the reason I don't have the windows updates running is that I ran into a major problem with one of them giving me bluescreens via my video card. I don't have the money for a new video card so I decided to not run any updates, use as much security as possible and use firefox. The bug I got came from a screensaver download that I should have known better than to get. Other than that, without updates over a 5 month period of time, this was the very first bug that showed up in any scan. And I was getting bluescreens several times a day. Now I don't get one a week. The video card is the FX5200 256mb chaintech. Those cards have a slew of websites devoted to bluescreens. So thanks very much for the help. I had ran the hijack this a while back and saw the svchost.exe files, but I found eroneous info online that led me believe they were windows files. Thanks again.
     
  14. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    You added and extra /32 to the regsvr32 command. That is why you got an error. Follow the example I gave you.

    We did not just say put HJT in its own folder, we specifically said where NOT to put it. You keep putting here:
    C:\Documents and Settings\Main Account\Desktop\hi\HijackThis.exe

    Read my message again!!
     
  15. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe is a valid windows file.

    The one we gave you is svchosts.exe it is not valid. You always need to read very closely here. Malware tries very hard to confuse you and hide itself.

    You may want to post another HJT log (put it in the proper directory) because you last one still showed problems.
     
  16. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    "We did not just say put HJT in its own folder, we specifically said where NOT to put it. You keep putting here:
    C:\Documents and Settings\Main Account\Desktop\hi\HijackThis.exe

    Read my message again!!"

    Well, I'm sure you've done that a hundred times so it's second nature to you. But once in a while a walkthrough helps strike the point home. I have done quite a bit of downloading, and in fact I have downloaded hijack this probably 10 or 15 separate times and I don't ever recall seeing an option for hijack this to create it's own folder. So I gather I need to create the folder in advance which is what I did. If i'm missing something then I simply need a better explanation. Reading the message again is not helping. I think a lot of the folks who help here forget how time consuming all the steps you have us go through are. I spent close to 6 hours straight on this today. I in no way shape or form was trying to sidestep any details. If you consider the effort that it takes for all those scans that you guys insist on, you would realize that we are giving it a best effort. And I might mention, that in two problems I have brought here, those scans have not turned up a single problem. That's an aweful lot of wasted time to deal with. In my case it was some malware, and I had to do quite a bit of unnecessary virus scans. If you take a look at the software I use, you will realize that it is very carefully thought out. Norton antivirus, Spybot S&D, ZoneAlarm, PestPatrol. All four of those have real time monitoring. It was a safe bet that the problem wasn't going to lie with additional scans from other software makers, no matter how much a favorite they may be of everybody. The post that I followed by Chaslang that helped me delete the problem could just as easily have been given to me without all the scans. I realize that on a given day, some of those scans could catch some of the issues that people bring here. But as I said, I have a well thought out software collection that in addition to the above four programs also includes adaware se, bazooka, cwshredder, hsremove and spyware blaster, and I run the updates and scans quite frequently (more than once a week). When you tell me to read your comments again, perhaps it would help if you read mine.
    I had a problem a year ago or so, on a screen name I lost before this one. It was also one of those where I had to scan a bunch of stuff first. And I also wound up being able to fix it in safe mode. So the lesson learned here for me is to try to look for the safe mode fixes before anything else. All's well that ends well, and this ended well. I do appreciate the help, quite a bit. My only gripe is how much unnecessary time it takes for all those scans.
     
  17. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    You are one particular case! There are literally thousands of cases where those scans do find problems and in many cases it is those additional scanners picking up problems that other programs do not. Are they always going to find problems and fix them? No! But neither do Norton, Bazooka, Spybot S&D, ZoneAlarm, and PestPatrol. They each have their pros and cons. The thing all the experts have learned is that no single package is good enough. The online scanners are in many cases updated sooner than full blown virus applications. Thus they will sometimes surprise people and find and fix things their Norton, McAfee, ...etc will not.

    We do not take for granted how long they scans take. However you are forgetting how much time it takes for us to answer all these questions and we do it for free. And we waste lots of our time and users time when we have to keep repeating ourselves with information that is in all the Sticky threads to begin with. Getting peoples systems into some kind of pre-known condition is important for us and saves us lots of time in the long run. We just need people to follow the directions give so we can all save time. Granted sometimes a person may just not understand a direction as we write them. But another message asking for explanation is an easy thing to do. Literally thousands of people have followed those directions and have not had a problem doing so.

    HijackThis does not have an option to create its own folder because it has no installation program. It is in a ZIP file when downloaded from us. Any program you use to unzip a file (especially if you use WinZip) gives you the option to create a new folder when you unzip. It is rather simple using Winzip. You just double click on HijackThis.zip and Winzip comes up. You click Extract not in the Extract window you can either navigate to an existing folder or you can click NewFolder. In the New Folder window, you would simple type in c:\Program Files\HJT and hit return. Now the folder is created and appears in the extract window. Click Extract. The file is extracted to that folder and the extract window closes. Now exit WinZip. It is not exactly rocket science.

    You could have also created that folder when you downloaded HijackThis.zip to begin with and then directly extracted it right into that directory. Again it is fairly simple.

    Our goal in this Forum is to help everyone resolve their Spyware problems and in order to answer the large volume of messages that come in, we cannot spend all of our time teaching people how to use the simpliest functions of Windows. In many cases we do an awful lot of that anyway, and it makes it difficult for us to answer all the threads. There are typically only two of us that answer most of the threads. A couple others spend a small amount of time helping. We are giving our help willingly and for free. All we ask in return is that our directions be followed and for the users to give us feedback on steps. It is a "Help us to help you" method.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2004
  18. ComputerGate

    ComputerGate Specialist

    Understood, but this is the 3rd time that I have visited this website and went through all the scans for nothing. The last time I was here, I had a "water drop" sound happening in certain websites. My common sense told me that if this was not caught with all the software I use, then nothing would. I ran all the scans anyway. Got yelled at for doing some things wrong. At some point in time I thought I had it fixed. Later that evening it was back. You know what that wound up being? It is the sound of PestPatrol killing a cookie. It is enabled/disabled in the tooltray PestPatrol icon. Following that whole list takes HOURS. I think if you took a poll of the people coming out of it without any luck you would find a high percentage of disatisfaction. Yes it is free. That's certainly admirable. But I think all of us computer people help the people we know for free. I know that I certainly don't make my friends jump through hoops for hours before I will even take a look at the problem. All I'm saying is that you have, in my opinion, a unnecessarily rigid system setup. My opinion. Oh and when I downloaded hijack this, I created the folder in advance and then sent the program to the folder. I still don't get how that is different from your scendario. I mean, you still haven't said there actually is a difference. The scans I understand. There's the what if factor. But the folder thing I just don't get. When I open up that zip file with my stuffit expander, the exe file goes right in that folder, as does the backup. How can that possibly be any different from what you described?
     
  19. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    We don't have any choice. If we were sitting in front of your computer hands on, we would probably do things differently. We also get people with all kinds of capabilities. We need a generic starting point. And we don't need a poll. We get told via PMs, email, and new threads everyday that the READ ME FIRST alone helped. We have had thousands of messages like that since about May or June alone.

    Idid say there is a difference. I said not to put HJT in c:\documents and settings. The difference is not in creating the folder in advance. The difference is where you are creating it. The tutorial specifically states,

    C:\Document and Settings is for Documents and Settings not for executable programs. Will it run from there. Of course. But loads of malware will stick themselves in there and quite often cleanup methods can cause inadvertent loss of backups. It is safer not to have HJT or the backups there.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2004

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