New Flash Drives

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by durkinjt, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. durkinjt

    durkinjt Corporal

    Just bought 2 flashdrives on the net 250G for $15USA & 60 G for $ 8, problem is when I format them to NFTS the are not recognized, when I format to Fat32 they are, which obviously I will never get the 250G & 60G. The old story you get what you paid for.
     
  2. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    It depends what you want to store on them. As long as no individual file is larger than 4GB you can save up to 2TB with Fat32. So you wont lose any usable space on either of them.
     
  3. durkinjt

    durkinjt Corporal

    Thanks fot the reply Max, helps a bit as I thought it was a total of 4G, if it is just not usable for individual files over 4G might be useful, but still kinda disappointing.
     
  4. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    As a matter of interest...
    After formatting the flash drives using FAT32, what capacities are shown?
     
  5. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

  6. durkinjt

    durkinjt Corporal

    Thanks for the reply, same, 250 G
     
  7. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Try deleting the flash drive volume in Disk Management and then reformatting to NTFS.
     
  8. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    If it shows 250 GB, what is the problem?
     
  9. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Flash drives don't come in the size you posted in your first post. If you purchased a 64GB flash drive, Windows will report it as around 59.6GB so I can see where you say 60GB there.
    However a 256GB flash drive weighs in at 238.4+GB.
    If you purchased something advertized as 260GB, I'm not sure what you have.

    Also for the prices you paid, I suspect these are not really the sizes quoted.
     
  10. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    OP has already said the 250gb shows as that. The usable space will of course be less - that's the same with any drive.
    The only problem the OP might face with Fat32 is trying to save any individual file bigger than 4gb. If not, there is not a problem.
     
  11. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Max, they do not make flash drives with 250GB capacity. It is 256GB NOT 250GB.
    Check the Kingston chart
    https://www.kingston.com/us/flash/storage_chart

    To see 250GB something on the flash drive has been tampered with. That is what I'm trying to point out.
    A 256GB would appear as 238+ GB, not 250GB.
    The next in size is 512GB which would show close to 477GB capacity.

    See if the flash drives are fakes:
    https://www.raymond.cc/blog/test-an...b-flash-drives-bought-from-ebay-with-h2testw/

    Now if the drive is an ssd that is different. Some ssd drives do come in 250GB sizes.
    Source: http://www.hardware-revolution.com/how-much-storage-capacity-do-i-need-for-my-computer/
     
  12. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I think we should wait to see if the OP comes back. They can just look at the packaging to see what they say.
    There are 250GB USB Flash drives for sale on Amazon so they must exist!
    The issue for the OP is clear - can they use all of the drive space with Fat32 - answer: yes along as no individual file is more than 4gb.
     
  13. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    They have 250 GB flash drives at Staples and Alibaba as well.
     
  14. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Links please.

    These are the capacity choices Amazon in the US gives me.
    capacity.jpg
     

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  15. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Last edited: Dec 8, 2016
  16. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Sure do, see my picture on US Amazon when I searched for USB flash drives. There is nothing offered between 128GB and 512GB so I want to see these 250 flash not ssd drives.
     
  17. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I've just posted a link to one. I haven't checked Staples or Alibaba but Mdonah wouldn't say they had found them if they didn't. The link I gave is a FAT33 250GB flash drive.
    But apart from anything else the OP's issue was whether - with Fat32 - they could use all the space on the ones they have purchased, and we have established clearly that (a) they can if they save data up to 4gb per individual file, or (b) they can see if the links provided by foogoo will alow them to format to NTFS.
    Everything else is academic and irrelevant.
     
  18. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It seems Max and I are incorrect. Google Search produces results for "250 GB flash drive" but when you click on one of the links, no such animal appears, They're all 256 GB. And that 250 GB Max links to is a hard drive not a flash drive.
     
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  19. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Untitled.jpg
    Speak for yourself mdonah - not my Amazon USA link - that's a 250GB FAT32 FLASH DRIVE, not a SSD. I'm not blind.
    Anyway, it's totally irrelevant. The OP has the flash drives and the size is irrelevant to their issue.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2016
  20. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Despite it's irrelevance, please check your link again. It shows up as a Bipra portable hard drive.
     
  21. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Flash Drive is a generic term for a device that stores data EXTERNAL to another device. 'Portable Drive' is a Flash Drive.
    But either way it is nothing to do with the issue raised by the OP. Not waiting for the OP to come back and then going on about an irrelevancy is just that. Irrelevant. Do we want to help them or confuse them?
    None of us know the name/model of the 250gb drive the OP has so quibbling over 'names' is pointless as the OP could be using the term 'Flash Drive' in the same way we all do..
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2016
  22. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Looking at the prices, they are flash drives as in... thumb drives, pen drives, memory sticks, etc.
     
  23. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    The thing is, the OP needs to run H2TestW as suggested more than once.

    My flash drives are thumb/pen drives. My portable hard drives are just that — spinners in enclosures.
     
  24. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    "We" don't use the term "flash drive" for HDDs, period.

    Flash in this context is derived from the memory type, similar to that used in the BIOS (yes, the thing that might need 'flashing'), CompactFlash, SmartMedia, SD Cards, PCMCIA memory cards (add-in solid-state drives for older notebooks), USB stick/thumb and SSD drives, etc.

    Yes, Flash drive capacity can be forged, best to test them before wasting any more time on it, return time is limited.
     
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  25. durkinjt

    durkinjt Corporal

    No file over 4G is recognized by a Fat32 drive.
     
  26. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    You can't save a file greater than 4gb with FAT32.
    If you do need to save files greater than that size, then see Foogoo's post #5

     
  27. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    The links in foogoo's post are for testing flash (pen/thumb) drives for fake capacities and formatting hard drives (spinners) up to 2 TB in size to Fat32. Nowhere do they mention storing files greater than 4 GB in size on Fat32.
     
  28. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Then 4gb max file size it is. As it was a week ago. But it still stays the same that the entire free space on those USB drives is available. Always was and always will be.
     
  29. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

  30. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    FWIW
    I formatted a 16 GB USB stick with NTFS in Windows 7 - no third-party tools needed.

    The question remains... why are durkinjt's flash drives not recognised when he formats them with NTFS? The prices suggest they are inferior products.
     
  31. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    I've formatted them NTFS in Windows 7, 8 and 10. 4GB and up. Perhaps he could provide links to the drives he purchased. It is odd.
     
  32. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Sadly the OP has never said what the brand/model numbers of the drives are, or even said whether they actually need to save individual files larger than 4gb. So this whole thread has become a side-issue discussion.
     
  33. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Exactly.

    I paid $6.35 each for 8 GB Kingston flash (pen/thumb) drives which are working fine for the purpose I intended them.

    $8 for a 60 GB drive? I would have been suspicious and avoided it.
     

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