New Mam. Guidelines. What do you think?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TeeCee, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. TeeCee

    TeeCee MajorGeek

    Here is a link to the new Mammography guidelines, and I wanted all of you to see it. :eek What are your thoughts? I would like to take this task force out behind the barn myself. :mad :boxing

    http://breastcancer.about.com/b/2009/11/16/mammo-guidelines.htm

    To me, this seem s to be going backwards, not forward... :mad
     
  2. cake

    cake Corporal

    NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! Not 50, 40! my friend was dead at 45...diagnosed at 42 in regular screening begun at 40. her's was a particularly nasty, aggressive form of breast cancer, but, after a double mastectomy & a boatload of chemo, she got 2 more years than she would have if she had never gotten her initial mammogram at 40. she was happy with that & so was her new husband who was glad he got to spend even that short time with her.

    the only people who benefit from raising the age are insurance companies who are thinking maybe we can scam them into thinking it's crap. it's NOT broken; DON'T try fixing something this serious & necessary.

    this garbage makes me want to go SERIOUSLY postal all over some moron's hindquarters. i recently chatted with a friend and said i thought a certain individual was the stoopidest person on the planet. i was WRONG! whoever these morons are, not to speak of stopping BSE's, are the hands down winners/losers.

    i'd better stop...i am NOT calming myself down. i'll just get more and more irate
     
  3. hrlow2

    hrlow2 MajorGeek

    My step-sister had to have a double mastectomy at 45 because she never got checked.
     
  4. TeeCee

    TeeCee MajorGeek

    Oh, hrlow2, that is terrible.. I am afraid of these new guidelines, or $$$ savers, (for the ins. co., of course) there will be more cancer, and less saving of lives.. This is very scary....:(
     
  5. Spad

    Spad MajorGeek

    My first wife developed breast cancer at 35. My current wife's mother died of breast cancer before 50.

    This did not come from the insurance industry . . . this came from an office of our friendly Federal Government (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services) . . . part of the same group of helpful folks that are trying to take over the entire healthcare system. It might, however, have an effect on what an insurance company will pay for under current conditions . . . all while the same Federal Government is trying to change those conditions . . . so why try and limit/change an area of health care now?

    This is BS. It seems contrived to me . . . but I don't understand why. They cited the "harm" and the "risks" of testing . . . but how do they in any way outweigh the harm and risk of missing a cancer in its early stages?

    Nonsense.
     
  6. hrlow2

    hrlow2 MajorGeek

    Remember that this is only a recommendation.
    They are NOT etched in stone.It is still your option to get the tests when you want.
     
  7. TeeCee

    TeeCee MajorGeek

    It may not be etched in stone, but it is in effect. Also, today, they are talking about Women and pap smears.. Now, it used to be a woman got one every year.. Not now. They are saying every 2 years... Up to a certain age, and then ZIP for any woman over 64. Now, this whole thing is out of control.... :( I haven't heard a word about men and Prostate screening yet.. I actually wonder if that will be next, as they sure are running out of things to take away from the gals.. Watch it guys, you may be next.. Give them the weekend, and let's see what "new guidelines" they can come up with next week.rolleyes
     
  8. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Anyone women needing an exam please let me know......:-D:-D. No insurance to file!!!



    OK, sorry, can't help myself!! But seriously, these are "recommendations" that are so loosely defined that it is almost worthless. It really is up to each woman and her family history along with her doctor who should be making the decisions as to the health risks involved!!
     
  9. bigtrucks

    bigtrucks MajorGeek

    Your right there TimW but do you realize what the cost is if this goes into effect for those who do feel they should have it done at a younger age then 50 and can't afford it? The insurance companies are for sure not going to pay for it until you hit that 50 mark. I personally hate the things but I don't see where the "prevention" is if you're gonna wait until half your life is over with and take a chance of dieing before you hit 50 just because "they "feel it's not needed.
    Granted I'm over the 50 mark(58) but my daughter and grand daughters aren't and i don't think I can go through losing a child as my mother did. From the article that TC posted here it did said
    I just hope it doesn't go through. JMHO
     
  10. indyattic

    indyattic Corporal



    The way I understand it, it won't be after the health care bill passes. This is what rationing looks like. Either get used to it or call the Senate repeatedly tomorrow.

    And for everybody that know somebody who found their cancer as a result of early screening, the Dems will trot out the family of somebody who would have been saved if they could have afforded to be screened.
     
  11. hrlow2

    hrlow2 MajorGeek

    5 will get you 10 that if one of them (39-45 years old) feels a suspicious lump, they will go running to get checked, then us (taxpayers) will be paying for it.
     
  12. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Don't know about your area, but we do have free mamogram clinics in our area. And I suspect that if your OB_GYN sends you for one, it will be covered under insurance if your doctor is not doing it for a "routine" reason..i.e. you have higher risks for it or other indicators.
     
  13. indyattic

    indyattic Corporal

    I'm in a Detroit 'burb. We have tons of free clinics and free screenings for a myriad of problems, but the people don't like waiting in the long lines.
     
  14. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Not to worry hrlow2.....after paying my taxes all my life, and then having to spend my child's college funds to have not one single doctor determine what is wrong with me, I am looking forward to allowing medicare take over. For what that is worth.

    And I am sure my father-in-law who makes 10,000 a month retired, pays nothing for health insurance and a pittance for his medicare is not going to miss a slight raise in his rates!

    But let's not go there, as I really don't feel like moving this to the hot topics forum!!
     
  15. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    That was the main point of my post.
     
  16. TeeCee

    TeeCee MajorGeek

    We have "A" clinic here, and it is the local Health Dept. They have to go by these guidelines, and unless you actually "feel" a lump, the ins. co. is not going to pay for it... I called mine today, and asked about the Mammogram, and they said they would not pay for it. I already had one LAST year, so I get to wait until November 2010. I am at hi-risk, already had 1 :*** scare, and the ins. co. is already on the bandwagon... Not covered, UNLESS something is felt.. Well, it is what you don't feel that can kill ya... By the time you feel it, it is pretty much too late....

    I agree, TimW.,
    It SHOULD be that way, but it depends on who is doing the interpretations.. The Ins. companies don't necessarily agree with the Dr's.... rolleyes

    Now, they are on Pap smears... All this is going to do, is you will see more Cancer in women... First the Mammograms, now Pap smears.... I am not a happy camper, either... I don't think this needs to be moved to H.T., it seems to be fine here so far;)

    I am sure that cost is a huge factor in all of this, even tho they are saying it isn't... I just seen a guy on the news, smiling, saying, "Don't let these new guidelines stop you from seeing your Dr. " sure, easy for him to say.. I can go in, and get a RX for the mam. but in the end, I will have to pay for it.. That is just flat out wrong, when I pay my insurance premiums myself..
     
  17. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    I think it's the worst recommendation I have heard.
     

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