No More Hiding Updates In '7 And '8 ?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Imandy Mann, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    Just read this. This is payback for any of us not wanting to upgrade a pc for whatever reason. Now to get any patch are we going to have to take a chance on breaking our pc just to stay secure? I've seen many blue screen, printer not working, network not working and who knows what all else problems caused by '10 updates. Windows @ home and Linux on line may not be far off.



    http://www.computerworld.com/articl...s-old-pick-a-patch-practice-in-windows-7.html
     
  2. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I deploy none. Is that OK with you Mr Mercer? No?
    To bad. I have decided. :D
     
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  3. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Marketing managers are not best placed to give techs the answers we will believe, I have to say in currently 20 pcs no issues have been had with any migration or update to win10, not to say they may not and hopefully my 4 PCs dont have issues! the server 2012 R2 I have is immune so far.
     
  4. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    Wasn't even thinking of the win 10 side of the equation. I figurer that's over. I'm looking at several other updates say in 8.1 for an example- one up date I've been offered over the couple years past now includes one that puts a hard block on certain programs. 7zip was one I noticed right off that I do use and a few video players and photo tools programs also. The list was at least 2 scrolled pages long. Also updates offered for my monitor and my wireless. Those I will never accept. Tried the wireless one back on the Vista box and lost all connection. Knew what did it so was an easy fix. But if it had been bundled in a group of kb's maybe another story. I see now that AU for 10 has broken a few web cams. If it really comes down to forced total updates I will avoid updating.
     
  5. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Think the issue for 7 and 8 owners and users is that, is it wise to update drivers in the main via Windows update for devices such as printers etc an answer is NO from me as if its working now, just do not change as new drivers issues via win update may not be best for you, they maybe more for 10 users.
    Main issue is that hardware makers have not and its not a Microsoft issue as some may think, but the OEMs have not updated drivers for many devices that worked ok with 7 and 8 for 10, the marketing ploy is we will sell 10 certified devices! hence no driver updates for 7&8 devices for 10 and same was even from 7 to 8
     
  6. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

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  7. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Really cannot deal with your avatar Max! and if a windows update he would re-nationalise it! lol but I agree with you its just that you get them, then if updating to a new OS version and a major one as 7 to 8 to 10 then hardware may not be catered for, it may work to a degree but not fully at times., Good link BTW.
     
  8. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I think the update situation is manageable, and as yet seen hardly any actual problems either on my systems or those of friends I help.
    As for the other, years of paying though the nose for gas, water, electricity and telecommunications mostly owned by companies majority state-owned EU countries not domiciled in the UK, and being like a squashed sardine on a very expensive (privately run) train (I had to STAND all the way to Exeter recently) makes me dream of all those things being back in state hands.
     
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  9. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I agree on the update situation. The other is another conversation, state is not always good as I work for state., good to a point but managed not so well, politicised to hell.
     
  10. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Two of the biggest franchised commuter train routes in the UK - Southern Rail and Inter-City EAST Coast - were taken back into public ownership of Network Rail when both franchisees had severe problems and providing a bad service. After several successful well run years in state control, the then Tory governments re-franchised them to private sector providers, and now they are utter crap again. The CEO of Govia had to be heavily protected by security guards and taken away from - actually very well-paid, very middle class - commuters in torrents of anger at the world-leading expensive and abysmal Southern Rail services barely WEEKS ago.
    Contrary to propaganda (see Edward Herman & Noam Chomsky in 'Manufacturing Consent' for how it's achieved) British Rail was actually one of the most efficiently run and maintained state-run National Rail systems in the world, operating on lower levels of investment, than any where else in the world, with awards coming out of every one of its orifices. BR (British Rail Engineering Ltd - BREL) was uniquely responsible for the vast bulk of research, development and investment in High Speed Rail that virtually every other country's rail system is and remains based upon.
    Italy purchased the package of technology relating to 'tilting' train technology - exclusively researched and project managed to final stage by BREL, and they now sell them back to the UK as the 'Pendolino' trains, and which they use on their own wonderful service.
    The same for telecommunications, UK state-run Post Office Telecommunications still has the record, on the entire planet, for research and development and it is its research and technology, particularly around 'System X' that most of the world's telephones run on!
    The UK, almost uniquely, barely suffered the horrors of cross-infection from transfused bloods seen in 1000s of deaths in the USA, because it was state-run, state-controlled and not operated for profit. The UK's state-run National Blood Transfusion service was always, everywhere on the planet, the first choice place for professionals to come to learn and train.

    The facts speak for themselves.
     
  11. Trex™

    Trex™ Private First Class

    I like this guy. I imagine his avatar as being an actual picture of himself. haha.
     
  12. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    Wouldn't even begin to know. But mine is me!
     
  13. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    It won't affect server 2012 R2. Mostly since Server 2016 is yet to be released. Though, I'm looking forward to 2016, some very cool things coming. :)
     

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