ntfs for dos

Hello,

I there a decent bootable dos version I can delete files with on my ntfs C: and D: drives?
I have tried 3 versions nou but all have flows or are not for free (€99).

any suggestions?

 

Not real clear about what you're asking for.

Assuming you wish to find and delete files from NTFS drives, you could always boot to a live Linux distro, from which you could perform file operations.

 

I am using xp and there are some files on my d: I cannot remove from within windows.
So am looking for a bootable dos version being able to handle ntfs drives.
I have tried NTFS4dos, ntfsdosprofessional and PE builder but in all these versions I ran into problems.

 

If you are sure these files can be safely deleted, you could try Unlocker.

http://majorgeeks.com/Unlocker_d4660.html

 

Well, there is one tricky thing.

In the past I did an experimental xp install on my d:.
That is to say a second version next to the main one on the c:.

To get rid of it I simply deleted the d: version which does no harm since the c:version just recognized them is ordinary D: files.

I did the same now with windows 7 to see if it would run on my 5 year old pc.
The way windows boots however is different.
I cannot change my boot.ini anymore, I can't save it and I think on my c: some extra boot files have appeared I cannot get into.

The drama is not so big because next week some upgrade parts arrive with a second disc and a fresh windows will be installed on this disc.

It's just a little annoying that at start up I'm stuck with the choice between the two.
Is there a way to get into the bootables?

 

Unlocker sais that the W7 files are not locked. But when I choose to delete them, nothing happens.

 

You are in dangerous territory trying to delete system files. Since you have a properly working OS (except for a minor inconvenience), I would recommend waiting for the disk to arrive before trying anything else.

 

I'm wondering why you're having problems with NTFS4DOS ???

I have it on several DOS boot disks and it's always worked just fine for me.

To eliminate all access problems with files on an XP drive, I just kept my XP drive in FAT-32 mode, when I upgraded from 98 years ago.
In every re-install of XP since then, I always install XP onto a FAT-32 formatted drive. Then I can access every file on the drive, directly from my DOS boot disk.

It's possible, that the version of DOS you're using could enter into the game somewhere. All my DOS boot disks use the DOS from a Floppy Disk formatted on a Windows ME computer. Some other versions of dos may not work so well.

Good Luck,
The Shadow :cool

 

With xp, the trick was to simply remove the second version from the boot.ini.
The second version then can be deleted totally safely into the bin since there is no notion whatsoever that this second version exists,they're just ordinary files because they are installed totally independently from the other version.

I just found out why this is different with W7.
It is in every way linked to the xp version on the c, the program files, documents and settings, etc included.
So i'll wait.

About NTFS4DOS, to be honoust I can't remeber exactly what went wrong, some kind of error.
DOS doesn't work anyway, at my pc that is, because I am not able to access any other disc then the a:
with c: and d: it sais invalid disc.

I'll give it a rest.
I will have to format my current c: to get rid of the W7 lock before I will be able to delete them but that will be next week when I have the new disk.
An easier way to do this I just thought of is to copy all usefull files to the new disc and totally format the other.
Problems solved.

Thanks for all the help, cheers

 

There is a simple solution to this:

Download and install EasyBCD: http://download.cnet.com/EasyBCD/3000-2094_4-10556865.html

This is a program designed to edit, reinstall, and more importantly for you, remove the windows vista/7 boot loader. This overwrites boot.ini in XP.

What you need to do is to click on the "Manage Bootloader" tab on the left of the screen, then click in the "Remove the Vista bootloader (use this to restore XP)" circle, then click "Write MBR". This should remove the windows 7 bootloader and restore the boot.ini file to boot your system.

 

Yeah, EasyBCD works well... just make sure you do the right things in the right order or you can really screw things up. Also, I believe you have to disable UAC (I could be wrong), and when I used it, it took I believe 2 reboots for some reason.

 

UAC disabling is not needed, just make sure the program is run as administrator.

 

It worked.
Although the buttons had slightly different names and extra option choice was necessary.
It took me about 10 start ups to figure out exaclty the right sittings.

I wonder if xp can be started without the interference of option screen at boot up with now only xp it.

With just xp, only the boot.ini was present on the c:
I wonder if there is a way, just by manual programming and deleting maybe to remove to bcd files from the bios and not get boot problems

 

Sorry for the wrong steps, I didn't realise there was a newer version of EasyBCD than mine.

If your boot.ini file contains only the reference to the current XP install then there should be no boot screen choice. Please copy your boot.ini file to something like boot(2).ini and then change the .ini to read .txt

You can then upload the boot.txt file here for me or someone else to go through to make sure that all your settings are correct.

There are never any EasyBCD files deposited in the BIOS, it only changes, adds, or removes files from the hard disk.

 

ok, the read.txt is uploaded as attachment.