Nuther Xp wont start

Discussion in 'Software' started by DocCountry, Mar 31, 2007.

  1. DocCountry

    DocCountry Private E-2

    Older amd machine with xp home. Mother board quit. I put in a new Pentium based mother board. Celeron actually on the chip.
    Windows wont starte. boots back to the safe mode menu but wont start in safe or to the command prompt. What next? it was an oem so I do not have a windows home disk.
    DC
    rolleyes
     
  2. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    I found similar problems when hard drives are going.
    If it is not the windows error blue screen, and the motherboard has been changed, it might be stopping because of periphials.
    Try disconnecting all extras- printer, router, whatever, except for keyboard and mouse.Use only a single stick of ram, and see if it will boot.
     
  3. DocCountry

    DocCountry Private E-2

    nothing else is plugged in. do you mean the usb jumpers on the mb?
    if I can borrow a xp home disk... is there a "repair installation" on them?
    dc
     
  4. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    If nothing else is plugged in, it would be a good idea to borrow an XP disc, if you can, and, yes, there is a recovery option on it.
    However, the XP disc has to be the same version that is on yours - if itis XP, with SP2 on your computer, or an earlier version, then the one you borrow will not repair, unless it is the same, but I have found it will run the sfc /scannow in most cases, to replace any corrupted protected Windows files.
     
  5. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    The other thing is your cpu has changed, so go to bios, by pressing -usually del, or, f2 when starting, and load bios defaults, press f10, save - y- press enter, and see if it will atart, then.
     
  6. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    The combination of a different motherboard, and cpu, normally gives you a no go blue screen, so if you do not get that, Windows might have accepted it.
    Otherwise with Microsoft calculation technology, it might not accept XP, as technically it will see it as a different computer..
     
  7. DocCountry

    DocCountry Private E-2

    I was able to get into the bios and loaded the optimal defaults. Same , no blue screens. its trying to load them,, "beep" and it reboots the the safe load option screen but all the choices do the same thing. I know someone that has an SP2 disk, I hope I can fumble throgh the scannow you mentioned. I'm still a low rank in the geek army.
    dc
     
  8. BirdBath

    BirdBath Sergeant Major

    Because the OS was oem it will not load with your new motherboard. All chipset info, drivers, etc are based on the MB that came with the computer.

    You will have to buy a copy of XP to install on the new system. Your oem XP product key will not work on a retail version of XP home.

    Make sure you have all the info and drivers for your new MB if you are going to install a new copy of windows.
     
  9. DocCountry

    DocCountry Private E-2

    Ewwwww not good.
    there is no way to come up with the exact MB. So I may be kinked.
    I did get ahold of an XP disk and it does not seem to boot from the CD- I booted the computer from the A drive with and ME boot disk and it says the HD is not Fat 32 or something else ?? but it was not NTFS so, it may be one of those OEM image partitions that I wont be able to access, It was/is a Fire-Lite computer.
    any other thoughts? I will run partiion magic on it and see if the partiion is recognised.
     
  10. BirdBath

    BirdBath Sergeant Major

    Change the boot sequence in the BIOS to boot from CD first if you didn't do that already.

    since you can boot from floppy why not try :

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994

    at least when you're done you will be able to boot from the XP CD you have.
     
  11. DocCountry

    DocCountry Private E-2

    To verify I had functioning hardware, I plugged in a different HD, Istalled Fedora , worked without a hitch, so I borrowed another windows cd and it booted via CD. so I put the original HD back on and booted from the CD , I selected recovery option then selected the istallation to recover. entered the Administrator password (blank cuase there was not one) the screen went to what looks like a C:\windows\ you have to type exit to get out of this but what am I supposed to do at this prompt to recover the original install?
    (i see a clean FDISK sort of install in my future
     
  12. BirdBath

    BirdBath Sergeant Major

    The original install wont run on your new Hardware.

    The only thing I can see happening at this point if you have files you need to recover is to do a new install and partition the drive.

    Say the old install is using 5 Gigs. Create a new C partition with the remaining space on the drive. When the new install has set up you should be able to get any files you need from the old install partition. None of your programs will work but if you have pictures or files you can cut and paste anything you want to the new C partition and then delete the old install partition.
     
  13. DocCountry

    DocCountry Private E-2

    well, I found a XP home disk SP2, tried it and it booted , the XP 2002 disk I had tried earlier did not. I tried the R choice for repair then it took me to a c:\windows prompt which I could do nothing with, so I went back, booted to do a full install. I chose setup then the setup ran for a while, I was offered the oppertunity to let setup try and fix the installation in c:\windows so I let it try and it worked. I had to enter the code from the xp sticker. then as the original system came back up I had to enter the code again. but I had to call india to get another long code to activate. He just wanted to know if I had the software installed on any other computers. Now it works
    I think I will be able to get the various board drivers installed using the PCCHIPS disk. Its Odd to me that different xp disks behaved differently in my equipment. The Fedora went on so easily I may put it on another machine and see how hard it is to use. It appeared to have all the necessary drivers and ability to detect what it needed without my intervention.
    Thanks for the help,
    dc
     

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